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Belshazaarswrath
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Well the past couple of weeks I have been posting on gameamp slightly more than normal and I have noticed that people seem to have forgotten the no flaming rule. Not only have people been flaming in the first place but also there are flames brought out in response. Now believe it or not ive been here a while. I was around when the no flaming policy was put into effect.
Around that time there was very little flaming around the forums. Now it's been a while and there is the occasional person who slips one. Usually a new member or a member with a strong feeling towards a subject. This is not what is bothering me. This is a forum and it is inebitable that one person or another will forget/ignore the rules. No this is not what bothers me.
What bothers me is there are flames/rude comments sent back to the recipient of the flame. Now this should be obvious but it is still flame even if it the recipient has flamed his or herself. Now what makes me somewhat angry is that some even use the no flaming policy in their flaming retort. Almost as a mockery of the rules. That makes the situation worse and makes more problem than it solves.
So what my question is this. Flaming back is just as much a flame as sending out the original flame correct?
Also I am not making this thread for any specific incident. It was made because I have noticed events like these for a while now. From staff and the average member alike. Considering this a site built on respect I believe this issue is a valid one and would like to hear other peoples opinions about it. (I consider being extremely rude directly or indirectly as a flame)
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| 06/13/07 19:53 |
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lord zema
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| QUOTE | | Flaming back is just as much a flame as sending out the original flame correct? |
Yes I believe that there has been more of what you would call "flaming". I agree with you that Gameamp is a site built on respect, that was my point on your language thread, and I think that some of the recent "flaming" definatly does not send the message Gameamp should want to send to a person new to the site.
The problem seems to start with as you said, mostly new members or somebody who makes a touchy post. Then some of the replies are filled with rude response to the original poster's opinion.
What we need to remember is that everyone is entitled to an opinion, be it anything from "we should be allowed to swear on GA", "that the new update sucks even though I dont play anymore" or any or the other posts I have seen recently. Even if you dissagree with the poster, people shouldnt express their discontent with rude or nasty comments. I also know that nobody is perfect and asking everyone to control tempers all the time is never going to happen.
I'm just saying that I agree with you Belshazaarswrath, and to answer your question, I think that answering a flame with rude or nasty comments is just as bad as the original flame.
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| 06/13/07 20:15 |
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Yes I believe that there has been more of what you would call "flaming". I agree with you that Gameamp is a site built on respect, that was my point on your language thread, and I think that some of the recent "flaming" definatly does not send the message Gameamp should want to send to a person new to the site.
The problem seems to start with as you said, mostly new members or somebody who makes a touchy post. Then some of the replies are filled with rude response to the original poster's opinion.
What we need to remember is that everyone is entitled to an opinion, be it anything from "we should be allowed to swear on GA", "that the new update sucks even though I dont play anymore" or any or the other posts I have seen recently. Even if you dissagree with the poster, people shouldnt express their discontent with rude or nasty comments. I also know that nobody is perfect and asking everyone to control tempers all the time is never going to happen.
I'm just saying that I agree with you Belshazaarswrath, and to answer your question, I think that answering a flame with rude or nasty comments is just as bad as the original flame. |
At one point i was gonna leave the site, when the anti-flammers got crazy I mean they were going after the most small detail even when people weren't flamming.
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| 06/13/07 20:59 |
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Belshazaarswrath
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The only time I can remember something like that happened was with my siggy. Which I eventually changed for this one anyway.
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| 06/13/07 21:05 |
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Annoy Mous
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I know what you mean Belshazaarswrath. While I have cut back posting, I still read the site as much as I have over the past 2(?) years, it seems like now, more than ever, more posts are falling into a cycle of flame->reflame->rereflame over and over again. Even things like people posting screenshots of their accomplishments seem to be getting more and more flaming on it. Frankly, its disgusting that people feel the need to rag on others.
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| QUOTE | | I know what you mean Belshazaarswrath. While I have cut back posting, I still read the site as much as I have over the past 2(?) years, it seems like now, more than ever, more posts are falling into a cycle of flame->reflame->rereflame over and over again. Even things like people posting screenshots of their accomplishments seem to be getting more and more flaming on it. Frankly, its disgusting that people feel the need to rag on others. |
Off the bat: http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/15820.php
Guy instantly flammed the people there, what he forgot was the date...White dye wasnt in yet. People also flammed back, maybe i did i dunnno but he Pi**ed me off.
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| 06/13/07 21:18 |
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Belshazaarswrath
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | I know what you mean Belshazaarswrath. While I have cut back posting, I still read the site as much as I have over the past 2(?) years, it seems like now, more than ever, more posts are falling into a cycle of flame->reflame->rereflame over and over again. Even things like people posting screenshots of their accomplishments seem to be getting more and more flaming on it. Frankly, its disgusting that people feel the need to rag on others. |
Off the bat: http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/15820.php
Guy instantly flammed the people there, what he forgot was the date...White dye wasnt in yet. People also flammed back, maybe i did i dunnno but he Pi**ed me off. |
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| 06/13/07 21:26 |
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GW_Ranger
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| QUOTE | I wouldn't really consider what you said a flame...what Lani said was. But I don't like bringing up specific instances. That just goes to show how nercomancy is a terrible terrible thing.
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Thread necromancy isn't always a bad thing, but it does require attention to the details of the topic. The dye thread above was a bad choice since the context of the topic changed after a game update.
I do agree that there seems to be an increase in the number of posts that have hostile responses. I think the most important thing for us all to remember is this age old saying: "If you don't have anything nice to say; don't say anything".
just my 2 cents on the subject.
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| 06/13/07 22:28 |
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Il Onlyblue Il
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I find that if there is thread that I don't approve of or find offensive, I just keep the comment to myself. Instead of making a split second rant reply, I would rather hold my tongue (fingers in this case) than post something that will just add fuel to the fire.
In keeping with the old saying... I don't have anything good to say, so I just won't say it :D Just because we are registered members, there is no rule saying you have to reply to EVERYTHING on a forum...
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| 06/13/07 22:34 |
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TheBeano
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I think there's some merit in what is being said both here and on your other thread, Belshazaarswrath. We may indeed be getting a little lax with our policy. This is something I will bring to the attention of the other staff and see what they think.
In the meantime, we still for a respectful community here. If you believe that something that's being said on any of our forums is inappropriate, I would encourage you to contact the nearest staff member (via PM), with your concerns.
Obviously, the community is speaking - it's now time for us to listen.
Thanks.
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| 06/13/07 22:35 |
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I agree with ya’ll.
Reacting with a nasty flame is just as bad as the original poster.. .But people do get tired and you can’t expect everyone to get along. A matter of opinions needs to be respected nonetheless.
I can understand if one person feels the need to point it out, but if it’s been pointed once, why re post with, “Yeah, he’s right, you suck for posting that…yada yada”
I know right now the site is going through some changes, new management for example. So it might be a bit till the staff force is back in action.
Keep in mind that people have a different definition in what’s even considered a flame. What’s harmful and offensive to one person, rolls off the back to another.
All and all, I agree with you sweetie. Flaming a flame is just as bad…its like fighting fire with fire ;-)
Very nice post! Btw =)
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| 06/13/07 22:48 |
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I've noticed the increase and I haven't been around nearly as long as some who've posted.
It's not just flames either. I've noticed a sharp increase in comments along the lines of "Lock this, I don't like it so I shouldn't have to read it", "quit whining" and just general off topic griping about threads.
The lack of comments like those was one of the big reasons I joined this forum. Guru has some good info too, but almost every thread turns into...
"Shut up."
"No, you shut up"
 
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| 06/13/07 23:51 |
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| QUOTE | I've noticed the increase and I haven't been around nearly as long as some who've posted.
It's not just flames either. I've noticed a sharp increase in comments along the lines of "Lock this, I don't like it so I shouldn't have to read it", "quit whining" and just general off topic griping about threads.
The lack of comments like those was one of the big reasons I joined this forum. Guru has some good info too, but almost every thread turns into...
"Shut up."
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I have noticed a huge increase from all over the web from people like this. You don't get your point across or get higher ranked in a forum unless you are flaming, badgering or just being down right rude to other people now days.
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| 06/14/07 00:01 |
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kyro27
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yeah i havent been posting on these forums lately because i could say what i really wanted to in a topic, but now usually when i do, "omg thats flaming", and that pisses me off uncontrollably, so i just look at these forums and usually keep my mouth shut ever since this no flaming rule has been implemented
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