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Evil Geek

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Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

I'm just wondering how people are finding this weeks change to this skill? We know Anet are evaluating the changes over the week so a little feedback from the community could help them in that process.

The duration is now 13 seconds with 12 in Earth (which is the max your going to get as your base atts if your not primary Ele) and it's recast is 15 seconds, without any buffs that leaves a 2 second gap which is effectively 4 including casting time.

I can only comment on my warrior builds which use this skill for tanking in DoA and for solo farming some areas in hard mode.

It's an enchantment so using a weapon with + enchants has always been the obvious choice, for my solo build I always used Glyph of Elemental Power:

For 15 seconds, your elemental attributes are boosted by 2 for your next 5 spells.

With the +2 from the glyph and the 20% enchants mod on my sword I found that my solo farming build was still effective but that energy became a little more of a problem, your having to renew Stoneflesh more often meaning my energy resources (warriors have a low energy pool as it is) were that little more stretched and made my solo experience a little more 'intense' but still workable.

For DoA I switched out Armor of Earth for Glyph of Elemental Power (choosing to keep Ward against Foes because the slow down effect helps with focusing the nuking, initialy I was tempted to keep Armor of Earth for the lower energy cost) and I have to say I had no problems whatsoever. The other plus is that using the glyph also boosts your Obsidian Flesh skill.

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06/18/07 03:34

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

i particulary dislike the limitation on armor buffs
you can now have only + 25 armor from skills.

this makes several farming builds less effective and im sure many PvE builds will have the same problem

since dolyak alone gives over 25 armor using armour of earth and watchyourself with it is useless it means that serious tanking is getting harder unless you have a good monk

if anyone could tell me why arenanet would do such thing i would really apreciate it

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06/18/07 03:55

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

I've had no trouble with my Geo Ele builds but then with 16 in Earth I'm getting 16 secs, couple that with a Totem Axe and you've got full coverage. Using a Glyph puts it to 14 secs which is cutting it a little close especially when you consider the cast times of both the Glyph and the skill.

Armour of Earth imo isn't worth much anymore, it's a buff so you can't stack it and there are plenty of other armour buffs out there that will hit the +25 barrier for less outlay. It seems pointless stacking buffs when damage reduction skills are stackable. My current favourite is Stoneflesh Aura + Stone Striker & MoR...a now, UW classic.

I think ANet are trying to get people to be more inventive rather than just stacking on the armour. The new Sunspear skills are also fun to try out in farming builds, I can see the Dervish making a comeback.

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06/18/07 04:07

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

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Indeed, this one's got me really irritated. I figured as a warrior it was their most useful feature in being able to take massive payloads of damage with the use of Strength/Tactics related skills in unison. What's the point now? Now almost every class can match a warrior's natural armor with skills, with the warriors themselves not being able to be that much more effective.

06/18/07 04:19

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

Ohmigawdihopethearmornerfisnotpermanent.

Anyway, to Evil Geek, i think the glyph thing is a good solution,But i have an idea for you..

Why not take Grasping Earth instead of the ward?? i mean, since you're the tank, its correct you're always where the enemies are right? thats help tons compared to the ward against foes =)

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06/18/07 05:19

Oilball

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

don't forget that new skill that gives you 100 armour for a bit =]

edit: sorry, forgot about the actual topic: Well, I think stoneflesh aura's still effective because if you want to earth tank, you're going to want some runes aswell, and this coupled with a +enchants mod means you're still going to have aura up *most* of the time..

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06/18/07 05:20

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

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06/18/07 05:28

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

hey not sure if this is any revelavence (not the best with builds and what thjey need to= pwnage but if you got rank one of luxon or kurzick the skill you get boasts all elemental skills by 2 for around 30 secounds more if you have a better rank.10 energy tho,but if your keeping it on all the time it should work out better as casting time of 1 means every 29 secouns duration as opposed to 14 secounds with glyph

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06/18/07 05:31

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

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Why not take Grasping Earth instead of the ward?? i mean, since you're the tank, its correct you're always where the enemies are right? thats help tons compared to the ward against foes =)

Good tip and at a 3rd of the energy cost worth using, only difference is the area of effect, ward is better for newb tanks like me who cant hold the aggro :)

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but if you got rank one of luxon or kurzick the skill you get boasts all elemental skills by 2 for around 30 secounds more if you have a better rank.10 energy tho,but if your keeping it on all the time it should work out better as casting time of 1 means every 29 secouns duration as opposed to 14 secounds with glyph

I havent got rank one in the kurzick title track yet so I havent seen this skill and Ive missed any news of these skills being posted on this site, I'll go off and search for info, thnx.

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06/18/07 10:28

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I havent got rank one in the kurzick title track yet so I havent seen this skill and Ive missed any news of these skills being posted on this site, I'll go off and search for info, thnx.

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06/18/07 10:35

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

Sorry i'm not really understanding this new armor cap as far as what skills are affected.I use kinetic armor and stoneflesh on my ele ,does this mean i'm not getting full benefit from both if i have on at the same time. An armor cap seems rather ridiculous ,what is this an affirmative action for those who can't put a set of gear and skills together.

06/18/07 12:49

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

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Stoneflesh is alright, since it's not adding armor... but for Kinetic armor; if you also used Armor Of Earth aswell, you would only be getting the +armor from whatever skills give the most.. so you'd only be gaining armor from Kinetic Armor, and Armor Of Earth would be useless.

06/18/07 12:53

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

Actually, seeing as stoneflesh doesn't give an armour bonus, you could indeed use both of those skills still, it's only armour bonuses that don't stack (like watch yourself and..doylak sig I think)

edit: sorry someone got there first

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06/18/07 13:06

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

you know, it also makes you wonder why capped the armor bonus at +25 but in the same day added a kurzick/luxon skill that gives +100 armor for a set duration? (i'm referring to the warrior's "Save Yourselves!")

06/18/07 13:08

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otherwise you could stack this skill with other armor buffs like ''watch yourselves'' and have +120 armor
this is why the capped the armor system whilst adding a skill that can give you +100 armor
with this new cap system you can only get over that 25 armor cap if you use a single skill that goes over 25 and so the skill you are talking about still gives +100 armor but doesn't go over that

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06/18/07 13:25

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

ah ok i understand. thanks for clarifying

06/18/07 13:36

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

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i particulary dislike the limitation on armor buffs
you can now have only + 25 armor from skills.

This is ridiculous , whats the point?
a warrior is supposed to have stupid amounts of armour but sacrifice its damage potential, its one of the ways they can naturally play.

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06/18/07 19:10

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

I hate trying to kill stuff that has SFA on it...

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06/18/07 19:20

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RE: Stoneflesh Aura - Still Effective?

I hope these things don't stick. I mean cmon in pvp geomacers are NOT that irritating. A decent curse necro/dervish/mesmer can basically kill the thing in 10 secs. So did htey nerf this for pve? Well why would you make farmign harder than you have already made it? Do you only want us to 55? What the heck guys?

06/18/07 19:24

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