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Laiho
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Hey all, new to the forum but I've been playing for a couple months. I started a ritualist a couple days ago, lvl 19 now, and I've noticed I don't use my secondary profession skills at all. I chose mesmer just because I've used it before as a secondary, but in missions, soloing, and the little PvP I've done I find myself using all 8 spots for ritualist skills.
I have access to most of the skills in factions and prophecies, but I don't see the need in using any secondary skills. In missions I almost strictly heal, and for quests I max out channeling as long as the quest isn't too difficult. My channeling skill line is Spirit Boon Strike, Channeled Strike, Ancestors' Rage, Spirit Rift, Union, Mend Body and Soul, Soothing Memories, and Mighty Was Vorizun. It seems like a lot of damage spells and energy use but with the item spell energy isn't really a problem, and quick healing is very efficient with Soothing Memories. My restoration skill line just switches in a weapon spell, flesh of my flesh, spirit light, and another spirit for more group support.
So my question to you all is, what secondary profession do you use and what skills are normally in your 8? Thanks in advance.
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| 06/18/07 19:12 |
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mwpeck
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No, its not necessary....on my ranger, when I use her, I usually have all 8 skills as ranger skills....on my warrior, the only non-warrior skills I have is mending touch.(I use sunspear rebirth sig for my res).
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| 06/18/07 19:16 |
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Chrisworld
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Different situations make all the difference with your different profession combos.
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| 06/18/07 19:19 |
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Rogue
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very rarely, but yes.
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| 06/18/07 19:20 |
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Deno
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| 06/18/07 19:41 |
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geckoshadow
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we forgot something
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| 06/18/07 19:47 |
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MrJosh
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There are some builds that don't even require the Primary profession. For example a Me/E that is a fast casting fire ele.
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| 06/18/07 20:07 |
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MorveAeris
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Ritualists are so diverse that they usually don't need a secondary profession. When I PvP on my rit, I find myself being Rt/P just to confuse people.
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| 06/18/07 20:50 |
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DrTurdFerguson
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I've been lurking here and getting some great game information for about 6 months now (very much appreciated, btw), but until seeing your sig in this post, Chrisworld, I never felt compelled to chime in. I absolutely busted out laughing when I read that. Thanks for making my day.
Sorry this post is off topic, but I just had to throw that in!
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| 06/18/07 21:13 |
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Welcome to the Forums.
Sounds like you have henchie-itis, on a more serious note this is two-sided coin. I think most people usually are more comfortable with a build consisting of their primary prof and are able to pvp and pve with it.
But...
take a look at what other people are doing with their rits
PvX Builds
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| 06/18/07 21:54 |
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GameMaiden
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On the majority of my characters, I have a habit of being a 'purist', also using a majority of primary class skills. I have 12 level 20 characters myself, so if I want to play a Mesmer, I want to play a pure Mesmer, not a fast-casting nuker...if I want to play a nuker I'll just log on one of my Eles.
To be honest, many of my characters are usually played as sub Monks or Rits, and that is purely for the hard rez (I play PvE most of the time, and I always carry some form of rez on all my toons, all the time).
The only exceptions to this are when I am farming, as many farm builds require a mix of primary and secondary skills, and also on some specific builds like degen necro, Crit Barrage Sin, Minion Bombing Rit, etc. But those are exceptions that I run only once in a while for a specific reason, not mainstay builds.
In your example, you mention your Rit using all Rit skills. I usually do the same, but occasionally I'll change her secondary to Necro to have Blood Ritual on hand for caster support (notably in FoW where often necros sometimes forget to bring it) or Arcane Echo for Splinter Weapon if I'm hanging out with a BP team in SF or Tombs.
On that note, I do have an ele I ferried over from Nightfall and played through Factions for fun, who never completed her secondary profession quest. She's in end-game Factions armor but you'll see her in outposts as "E20". Already have one maxed ele who can run any build, the second one for for fun and because I'm running out of room for extra armor sets in Storage :-)
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| 06/18/07 22:03 |
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Health_Kill
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With the new title skills I believe you can use a pure build with a skill from another class and still be fully effective. Time to get some of those Friends of the Luxon's and more sunspear titles.
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| 06/18/07 23:31 |
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Tribina
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Indeed ritualist is one of the professions that doesn't need a secondary profession to be most useful in team builds.. I love playing my rit and I'm glad I can replace bloodsong by vampirisme now..
Check out my rit build --> here <--
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| 06/19/07 00:33 |
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Rits were designed for more than just game play they were also ordained by the Gods of Anet with killer undergarments.
If you have a female Rit, lets get together and host a Rit bikini contest. The Gods of Anet demand it, why else would they put so much detail in a Rit. (Have you seen a female Necros and Monks undergarments?)
Woot.
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| 06/19/07 01:05 |
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Survivingsin
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Like master mesmer said there is a really good rit farm build that uses 3 mesmer skills in it too work.
As for pvp if you get into HA expel hexes is a good elite and is normally given to a support caster like the rit. Also there are a few builds like:
Wielder's Strike
Dual Shot
Savage Shot
Nightmare weapon
which is a very strong spike and if you have NightFall you can run the Spirit's Strength builds with vital weapon and use any other weapon you want.
But if you are just going support caster, damage, or healer, only skill i think might help is glyph of lesser energy to help with the lose of 17 energy from losing your weapons.
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| 06/26/07 07:08 |
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Lord Denerynn
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I am also more or less of a purist, most of the time my ele has a mesmer secondary instead of monk simply as an excuse to not bring a hard res in missions.
However, it's good to exploit a profession's primary attribute, as it can create all sorts of crazy builds that may surprise your opponent enough to let you kill them.
Let's take the classic example of the touch ranger. I love using one in AB, it's a nice alternative to using a bow. Most people don't seem to realize that expertise can also reduce the cost of rituals, including binding rituals. This means that a spirit spammer would be better off using a ranger primary to greatly reduce the cost of their rituals, all while using certain skills to reduce recharge times, etc.
I consider spawning power to be useless for a rit, unless you want to spam spirits who lose hp when they successfully do their job, or if you want to be a mm (the 4% life bonus applies to minions as well). I don't use weapon spells, so it doesn't help for that either. This means that I could use any primary I want to make a rit, because the primary attributes could help my builds in one way or another.
You can do the same with other classes. Don't be afraid to mix things up (it's better if you use a pvp character, they have access to all of your skills, not to mention you can customize their armor to view all of your options).
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| 07/26/07 15:01 |
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Lord Denerynn
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I am also more or less of a purist, most of the time my ele has a mesmer secondary instead of monk simply as an excuse to not bring a hard res in missions.
However, it's good to exploit a profession's primary attribute, as it can create all sorts of crazy builds that may surprise your opponent enough to let you kill them.
Let's take the classic example of the touch ranger. I love using one in AB, it's a nice alternative to using a bow. Most people don't seem to realize that expertise can also reduce the cost of rituals, including binding rituals. This means that a spirit spammer would be better off using a ranger primary to greatly reduce the cost of their rituals, all while using certain skills to reduce recharge times, etc.
I consider spawning power to be useless for a rit, unless you want to spam spirits who lose hp when they successfully do their job, or if you want to be a mm (the 4% life bonus applies to minions as well). I don't use weapon spells, so it doesn't help for that either. This means that I could use any primary I want to make a rit, because the primary attributes could help my builds in one way or another.
You can do the same with other classes. Don't be afraid to mix things up (it's better if you use a pvp character, they have access to all of your skills, not to mention you can customize their armor to view all of your options).
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