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Update - Tuesday June 19
Skill Updates
Assassin
* Critical Agility: fixed a bug that shortened this skill's duration when it reapplied itself.
Elementalist
* Frozen Burst: decreased duration to 3..8 seconds.
* Mark of Rodgort: increased recharge time to 15 seconds.
* Searing Flames: decreased damage to 10..100.
Mesmer
* Conjure Nightmare: decreased duration to 2..16 seconds.
* Conjure Phantasm: decreased duration to 2..16 seconds.
* Hex Eater Signet: decreased casting time to 1 second, decreased recharge time to 25 seconds, decreased Energy gained per Hex to 1..4.
Monk
* Convert Hexes: decreased recharge time to 12 seconds.
Necromancer
* Faintheartedness: decreased duration to 3..28 seconds.
* Reaper’s Mark: increased recharge time to 12 seconds.
Ranger
* Nature's Renewal: increased Spirit level to 1..13.
Warrior
* Crippling Slash: increased adrenaline cost to 6 strikes.
* Enraging Charge: decreased adrenaline gained to 0..4 strikes.
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They sure weren't kidding about the Skill balance week. Here's the Second skill update so far this week...
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and yet again SF is hit again with the nerfbat...
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Searing Flames.... expected. For PvP a welcome balance; for PvE it is a nightmare.
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strange; conjure phantasm and nightmare used to be 2-12... now its 2-16; why did they say decreased when it is increased
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| QUOTE | | strange; conjure phantasm and nightmare used to be 2-12... now its 2-16; why did they say decreased when it is increased |
it was temporarily increased to #....17
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| QUOTE | | Searing Flames.... expected. For PvP a welcome balance; for PvE it is a nightmare. |
It is a week to try and balance things with the introduction of the new sunspear/faction skills. Intensity is being used alot with SF so it is like they give with one hand and take away with the other on this one, it almost forces you to use that extra skill to get near the same damage, balanced with the effect Intensity has with the other skills in your skillbar there is still an improvement from using it.
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With entensity Searing Flames gets back to its 'normal' damage in PvE; but since intesity can't be used in PvP; i wonder why Searing Flames is considered overbalanced :) It is a nasty skill to get cast on you; but using interrupts; extinguish dazed etc. can easily overcome the skill.
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I like the update. Skills that was a bit to powerful got adjusted.
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| 06/20/07 04:18 |
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Faintheartedness has been in the game for nearly 2 years now and its now they decide to nerf a skill that requires none...
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| 06/20/07 05:31 |
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weakened some ele things.....hope the bring E lord back up to 2 atb instead of 1..
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| QUOTE | | Faintheartedness has been in the game for nearly 2 years now and its now they decide to nerf a skill that requires none... |
Play pvp and comment after... All of these skills were changed to wrok better in pvp...
And when i say pvp i dont mean reapers mark necro with faintheartedness in ra...
and to explain better, faintheartedness on a hexnecro with coverhexes and mesmer with migraine and signet of humility has been the meta for a while, in case u havent noticed, and if you try playing a warrior you know that faintheartedness is way too powerful for the cost, recharge amnd duration... atleast this made it a little better.
i dont like nerf to enraging charge and cripple slash
enraging charge get break point of 3 adren at 10 strength and i only use 9 strength in my buuild... now i have to go 10 tactics 10 strength instead of 9 and 11
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Im glad they solved Critical Agility for assassin, i send a bug report about it why TH i only got +1 second with each critical hit, while it says ''reapplies'' without saying how much.
Pretty fast cause i had a reply within an hour, was indeed a bug *phew*, i really love it for my assassin and it would be a waste if it was nerfed already :P
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| 06/20/07 06:14 |
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Play pvp and comment after... All of these skills were changed to wrok better in pvp...
And when i say pvp i dont mean reapers mark necro with faintheartedness in ra...
and to explain better, faintheartedness on a hexnecro with coverhexes and mesmer with migraine and signet of humility has been the meta for a while, in case u havent noticed, and if you try playing a warrior you know that faintheartedness is way too powerful for the cost, recharge amnd duration... atleast this made it a little better. |
I do play Pvp ty, im aware of Faintheardness being a tad overpowered on a melee type enemy. And faintheartedness isnt only used in a reaper's mark necro alright?
Whether its 35 seconds or 28 seconds, you're either dead, its removed or reapplied by that time so how has this been an improvement to all you melee players who cry about skills like this? Learn to analyse and play outside of the meta.
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| 06/20/07 06:22 |
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| QUOTE | Necromancer
* Faintheartedness: decreased duration to 3..28 seconds.
* Reaper’s Mark: increased recharge time to 12 seconds. |
If this was the intended nerf for faintheartedness, I'm not very satisfied. I won't matter how much shorter that duration is, as long as you can recast it after 8 seconds. Same goes for Reaper's Mark, it lasts for a full 30 seconds! You just cast on the hex, and wait... If they really want to balance those skills, I suggest that they up the recharge time.
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| 06/20/07 07:02 |
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they should up the recharge on most hexes...
i think it should be normal when the duration is longer than the recharge but when the duration is 3 times the recharge it gets a little out of hand.
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There is always somehitn gwrong with the game. The hexes are too long, this is over powereed. The thing is the hex duration SHOULD be longer then the recharge if not hex removal would simply make them useless. With all the hex removal skills out in the game now (a couple of which remove both the cover hex and the important hex) you need to be able to cast your hexes frequently to make sure they are actually doing somehting productive for you team.
All increaing the hex recharge time would do is make many skill useless as once they are roemoved you have to wait 15-20s to even cast them again. How effective would a necro or hex-mesmer be ifhe had to just sit around with full energy waiting for recharge.
The meta-game is an ever shifting monster between spikes, condition, and hex teams. You just need to take this in consideration when designing your counter. If you see a lot of SF teams, bring extinguish, a lot of hex teams take a diver hexes monk. The counters are out there, it not a-nets job to make every profession equal its just to prevent one from dominating PvP or taking over another proffesion primary job(like the necro healer pre-Soul reaping nerf)
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Hmm...looking at SF and MoR, I'd better consider changing my AB build =/ The SF doesn't hit it that badly...the Mark of Rodgort recharge though...ow.
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So true johny, +cred ^^
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ANet seems to have this idea that if 2 teams face off they should be even, no one has an advantage because everything is fair. So we will eventually get to a point where neither team can win because the balance is so perfect.
Apply this to a team sport of your choice...
Team A aren't allowed to use Player X because team B don't have a counter. Can you really imagine the teams star player sitting on the bench because he gives his (or her) team an unfair advantage??
Oh and I love in real life when 3 lions sit out of the hunt because otherwise it's not fair on the Gazelle.
I can see some of the reasoning but sometimes ANets methods = madness :/
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| QUOTE | ANet seems to have this idea that if 2 teams face off they should be even, no one has an advantage because everything is fair. So we will eventually get to a point where neither team can win because the balance is so perfect.
Apply this to a team sport of your choice...
Team A aren't allowed to use Player X because team B don't have a counter. Can you really imagine the teams star player sitting on the bench because he gives his (or her) team an unfair advantage??
Oh and I love in real life when 3 lions sit out of the hunt because otherwise it's not fair on the Gazelle.
I can see some of the reasoning but sometimes ANets methods = madness :/ |
No, its just a soccer. Both teams have 11 players, there is no imbalance, both have same tactical choices. But now instead Individual skill of each player will decide the outcome instead of Team A not having the counter for Team B's build on Map A, also known as Build Wars... This made pvp alot more fair and much better.
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| QUOTE | There is always somehitn gwrong with the game. The hexes are too long, this is over powereed. The thing is the hex duration SHOULD be longer then the recharge if not hex removal would simply make them useless. With all the hex removal skills out in the game now (a couple of which remove both the cover hex and the important hex) you need to be able to cast your hexes frequently to make sure they are actually doing somehting productive for you team.
All increaing the hex recharge time would do is make many skill useless as once they are roemoved you have to wait 15-20s to even cast them again. How effective would a necro or hex-mesmer be ifhe had to just sit around with full energy waiting for recharge.
The meta-game is an ever shifting monster between spikes, condition, and hex teams. You just need to take this in consideration when designing your counter. If you see a lot of SF teams, bring extinguish, a lot of hex teams take a diver hexes monk. The counters are out there, it not a-nets job to make every profession equal its just to prevent one from dominating PvP or taking over another proffesion primary job(like the necro healer pre-Soul reaping nerf) |
as i said i think it is normal that the duration is longer than the recharge. but when the the duration is 30+ and the recharge is less than 10 seconds, it is a bit too good. and as for ''all the hex removal skills'' most of them suck like hell unless they are elites (and hell sucks btw...)
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| QUOTE | ANet seems to have this idea that if 2 teams face off they should be even, no one has an advantage because everything is fair. So we will eventually get to a point where neither team can win because the balance is so perfect.
Apply this to a team sport of your choice...
Team A aren't allowed to use Player X because team B don't have a counter. Can you really imagine the teams star player sitting on the bench because he gives his (or her) team an unfair advantage??
Oh and I love in real life when 3 lions sit out of the hunt because otherwise it's not fair on the Gazelle.
I can see some of the reasoning but sometimes ANets methods = madness :/ |
I totally agree with you that there should be a difference between skills but sometimes the difference is a bit too big. i mean there aren't that many ele's that use SF because it is so original to use it, they use it because it is overpowered, at least that is why i use it...
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ANOTHER UPDATE??????
Well this update MOSTLY affected my Master of Whispers' Build.....
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| QUOTE | | ANOTHER UPDATE?????? |
YES!!!!!!!!!!!1
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hump de bump
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hmmm only kinda mad about the cripslash/enraging lunge nerf but hey that happens, and these arent permanent changes changes so just chill if they didnt nerf sf it would be far to overpowered with intensity for farming things, with these and the armor nerfs eles have taken a hell of a hit
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| QUOTE | | Faintheartedness has been in the game for nearly 2 years now and its now they decide to nerf a skill that requires none... |
It is pretty nasty in pvp actually. It's shadow of fear meets parasetic bondx2-health gain. It HURTS when they use it on melee classes. The only thing thus far that hurts me personally is the armor and sfa nerf. I hate it and I hope they switch it back. The only thing I do has been increased in difficulty when it was hard enough to use as it is...soo I hope they fix that.
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i never hated the skill changes, it makes the game feel new again...
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| 06/21/07 02:06 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | ANet seems to have this idea that if 2 teams face off they should be even, no one has an advantage because everything is fair. So we will eventually get to a point where neither team can win because the balance is so perfect.
Apply this to a team sport of your choice...
Team A aren't allowed to use Player X because team B don't have a counter. Can you really imagine the teams star player sitting on the bench because he gives his (or her) team an unfair advantage??
Oh and I love in real life when 3 lions sit out of the hunt because otherwise it's not fair on the Gazelle.
I can see some of the reasoning but sometimes ANets methods = madness :/ |
No, its just a soccer. Both teams have 11 players, there is no imbalance, both have same tactical choices. But now instead Individual skill of each player will decide the outcome instead of Team A not having the counter for Team B's build on Map A, also known as Build Wars... This made pvp alot more fair and much better. |
Very good point if one type of build is in general harder to counter/ more powerful it just becomes a rock paper scissors type game if you don't have enough removal you lose not skill like it should.
The hexes being nerfed have been too powerful for a while and although its not a huge nerf it still helps the problem.
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