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LEPRACAN

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The big switch. Shadow--Holy

Well currently im a level 62 shadow priest (sw: d FTW) and im enjoying it. But there are a few things i am NOT enjoying.

I heal pretty well, i think. But i think if i went holy i would be doing alot better. The downside? all those yummy shadow points and then hard time for me questing >.<

By build for holy would be (upon hitting 70) (and maybe points in Blessed recovery going into silent resolve)
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...000000000000000

My shadow build at 70 would be http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...510201123051501

Any advice would be very good.

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07/13/07 10:01

binarydumb

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

/bump

I'm only at LvL 47 and currently spec'ed towards shadow, myself.

Since I might respec for holy once I get to 70 (for dungeons etc.), I am very interested to know/hear everyone's comments.

Anyone?

07/24/07 18:35

Drucila

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

I am sorry I missed this before, I linked it to Dyerseve who hopefully will give you one of his nice thought out answers on melt your face off shadow priests! If i can bug him enough to actually reply!

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Dru

07/24/07 18:41

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

All in all I think it mostly depends on your server. If there is a lack of healers on your server you may want to go holy once you hit 70 for instance/raid healing, but shadow priests are very much wanted as well, especially in raids, where the mana gained from shadow priests can make a huge difference.
So if you don't want to gimp your soloing, you could just stay shadow and still be good for grouping. You can't really go wrong as a priest.

07/24/07 19:01

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

I might go holy on my paladin. Not sure how many healers there are on my server.

Allthough Bunny ty. I never looked at it like that.

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07/24/07 20:18

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

I'm a priest, I do a lot of instancing to lvl. It's not TOO horrible though the lack of damage sucks, but you get used to it.. I'm personally using the build located..

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...000000000000000

There. It's pretty good I feel.

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07/24/07 20:21

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

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Ooo yay we have another priesty! Though I will still bug dydy hehe. But yay! I started a priest, shes at level 23, im having a lot of fun with her but shes holy.

Dru

07/24/07 20:30

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

I hope you don't mind me saying so, cressent, but you may want to consider protection instead of holy. The way I see it, you can be good at healing/instancing but pretty much suck at soloing as holy, or you can be good for tanking instances and still be good at soloing as protection.

My paladin is holy at the moment, but that's mostly because my guild was (and still is) short on healers. Most of my time playing wow consists of raiding/instancing and daily quests, so I don't have problems with the weakened soloing, but if you're still leveling protection is the way to go, as far as I'm concerned.

At the end of the day it really just comes down to what play style you prefer, though. Play around with different specs and find the one you like.

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07/24/07 21:10

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

i personaly love spriests in groups, i also love priest healers because they have the nice diverse spells and burst capability healing which a holy pally dosnt, i know a spriest thats healed for me in serveral groups and did an excelent job at it, so unless your horde id stay shadow because most pallys are holy and dont take 2 long 2 find a healer for 70 instances

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cudnt agree with ya more, holy sucks and is for panseys, i play prot and never have trouble getting groups and nor have i had any complaints on tanking....just way too many complements, BUT you are going 2 run into a severe pally hater once in while but thats when ya be like me and tell em 2 go F**K themselves ;)

Edit: again....armory my toon if ya need a good prot spec, took me awhile 2 get it perfected 2 whats needed, imp hoj is nice but it isnt something that your gonna use alot because it stops your threat from blocking.

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07/25/07 11:14

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

Mitch Question, Why didnt you get Ardent Defender? I was thinking that over Benediction, but benediction is nice too.

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07/25/07 12:05

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

paladins only good to heal my aggro loving ars IMO, but then again I say the day a pally out DPSs me I am hanging up me mitts.

Dru

07/25/07 15:49

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

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cudnt agree with ya more, holy sucks and is for panseys

I like how you complemented me first and then continued on to smack me down.

Also, Mitch, I don't want to sound like an all knowing paladin master, but why the ten points in holy? I can see the extra mana and the extra damage from seal of righteousness being useful, but I prefer something like this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=aZVhtIx0dggqzVbx

I guess it mostly comes down to personal preference, but at the very least deflection is a talent worth picking up, especially if you want to be uncrushable, which is a protection paladin's main obstacle for anything above regular five man instances.

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07/25/07 17:14

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

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cudnt agree with ya more, holy sucks and is for panseys

I like that build, allthough you skipped Imp devotion aura. Why?

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07/26/07 04:58

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

Because at the maximum rank, improved devotion aura gives you only 400 extra armor, which isn't really worth the points spent on it.
I have it on my holy paladin because I wanted blessing of kings and redoubt would be even more useless than imp. devotion aura, though.
Besides, real men tank with retribution aura on them for the extra threat.

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07/26/07 07:17

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

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Besides, real men tank with retribution aura on them for the extra threat.

lol nice.

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07/26/07 08:27

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

you dont seem 2 understand how a pally tanks, retribution aura adds nxt 2 no threat when played properly, i hit 52% block rating at all times along with 10% dodge and parry, with redoubt thats 82% block so retribution aura because useless. the reason for imp righeous is because THAT IS you aggro, you only use that with holy shield 70% of the time, concecration is there if needed but not 2 spam. and as for ardent defender your doing pve as prot so therefore the healer will rarely let you drop below 50% and in doing so makes the skill useless.

trust me the way i have the talent done is thru plenty of trial and error till i got what i found 2 be best, i have no trouble keeping aggro from people far overgearing myself, im actually nearly rdy 2 be tanking kara.

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paladins only good to heal my aggro loving ars IMO, but then again I say the day a pally out DPSs me I am hanging up me mitts.

Dru

LOL funny you should say that because you'd be amazed at how many people i out dps while tanking, and as for pallys only having a use as healers then you shall get yours soon enuf when a lovely pally shows ya how its done right :)

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07/26/07 10:57

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

Back on topic, please.

Any other suggestions on a priest build?

07/26/07 11:22

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

I assure you that I am very well aware of how paladins tank. Now, devotion and retribution aura both have their merits,
devotion giving you a nifty armor bonus and retribution giving you more damage and therefore threat.
Keep in mind that a partially blocked attack will still proc retribution aura, so unless you have sufficient block value it should still be useful.
For anything more difficult than regular five man instances you probably want to switch to devotion aura though.

Keeping aggro has never been much of a problem for paladins, mitigation is, so for harder hitting encounters (like karazhan)
you'll need all the extra mitigation you can get.
And since karazhan is filled with undead and demons, you shouldn't really have too many aggro problems anyway.

Anyway, sorry for hijacking this thread and turning it into a paladin discussion.
Sadly I know very little about priests, so I'll leave it to the experts from here. Good day.

07/26/07 11:48

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

I'd give advice...but you probably know how to priest a LOT better than I....mine is only level...2 :p

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07/26/07 16:51

Mitch

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RE: The big switch. Shadow--Holy

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Back on topic, please.

Any other suggestions on a priest build?

not sure what your asking, as in a new shadow spec or whether or not you should stay shadow?

i personaly say stay shadow because groups will never refuse em and you'll still be capable of healing if and when you have 2 be the healer, but for heroics/raids you would NEED to spec holy for it. if you want help with a spec im sure i can be of some help since i know quite afew 70's along with my raid guild.

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07/27/07 11:32

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