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chowmein

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Lame people exploiting aspenwood

I don't know if any of you have been playing Aspenwood on the luxon side lately, and i don't advise you to because the kurzicks are using exploit making it impossible to win.

The exploit involves a monk to lure the necromancer in the inner gate by using infuse so the nec will follow the monk to put death nova on him. the monk then uses release enchantments so the nec keeps putting death nova on him. they repeat this process until the nec is inside the green gate. they then close the gate and make sure people only use the portal so they necromancers don't escape.

Then, when poeple like me playing on the luxon side try to have fun playing the game, we realize that we can't kill the necromancer. This means we cant open the gate and can never get past the inner gates, and therefore inevitably losing. Essentially ruining the game for people not on the Kurzick side.

I hope Anet Fixes this exploit soon, because i would like to actually be able to play without poeple ruining it. If youve been there recently you understand how annoying it is.

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07/16/07 22:30

Mordakaida

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

Yup.. has happened to me but luckily some of our skills was able to get through and kill the necro.

Beyond the bugs, leechers and rage quitters.. nice place to be.. yeah right.

I hate that update.. You win you get 800 or so but if you loose you get super less. Only thing this did was make all the legit players unhappy.

FOR THE LAST TIME ANET LEECHERS DON'T CARE HOW LONG IT FREAKING TAKES.

Just permanently ban these leechers and quitters from ever joining again.

07/17/07 00:02

Demon Slaya of God

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

this doesn't sound much to be an exploit... just a well thought out strategy. Now if i remember u can spell cast through the walls and still kill them, but i maybe wrong. If i am wrong and u still can't kill them, then don't worry. A-net will see it as soon as someone complains or becomes over used and will put a stop to it. You could probably help them fix this problem through their support if u can't find a way around it.

07/17/07 00:05

great inferno

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

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you can cast trough walls, but the kurzicks are luring him back so far (3 a 4 aggro bubbles) that he's to far away to attack him

07/17/07 00:10

Chrisworld

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

Well i refuse to do Aspenwood, because eeveryone there is an Ahole and does nothing but talk about sex, and other nasty things, these people need to grow up.

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07/17/07 00:15

Demon Slaya of God

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

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you can cast trough walls, but the kurzicks are luring him back so far (3 a 4 aggro bubbles) that he's to far away to attack him

well then it is very much likely for a-net to do osmething about it... probably taking away Death Nova away from the Kurzick Necromancers or making them smart enough not to follow past a certain point

07/17/07 00:18

puffydog

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

It's not an Exploit, it's a clever use of the situation.

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07/17/07 01:06

The Quick One

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It's not an Exploit, it's a clever use of the situation.

I agree besides Im tired of seeing "We cant win they have cannon turtles" now even if we get a poor group we can win ^_^

07/17/07 01:20

Evil Geek

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

Ive been doing Aspenwood lately to get Luxon Faction for my 'friend of the luxons' quest, it is an utter waste of time even without luring the necros. On every team I saw at least 2 people leaching and at least 1 leaver, one team had 2 leaching and 4 leavers which left just 2 of us against 8 add the incredibly immature behaviour of some people and the whole experience just isn't fun and not worth the effort in Faction points either. If you need faction points go get a blessing from a luxon priest in an explorable area and get 5 faction from each kill, you get drops too, much more satisfying :)

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07/17/07 03:10

mriswith

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

I have done 3 runs last night; no leavers and in total one leecher. I find that the time you do fort aspenwood saves half the headaches. If you go in daytime; then there are a lot of leavers/leachers; but from approx 9 pm gmt on; it gets a whole lot better.

necromancer all the way

07/17/07 04:36

thaskippy

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

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It's not an Exploit, it's a clever use of the situation.

i don't even have words for this... I.Q. = 96 ?

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07/17/07 05:02

puffydog

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

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i don't even have words for this... I.Q. = 96 ?

Your point is ?

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07/17/07 05:16

Xellois55

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

Haven't done Aspenwood in ages, i see i wont be doing it for a long time to come too ^^

Aspenwood always had leavers, leachers and people that think Guildwars = Chatwars and just stand around shouting: ''N E girl hve Webcam? Prez 2'' so basicly its not fun fighting 2 vs 2 in such a large map XD

Aye i'd try the Luxon/Kurzick Blessing stuff sometime, i admit, i haven't heard of it yet *goes to Wiki*
Haven't spoken to em in Factions for a looooong time.

07/17/07 06:10

Kikuta

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

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It's not an Exploit, it's a clever use of the situation.

i don't even have words for this... I.Q. = 96 ?

No, it isn't an exploit.

The only things I can think of (after pondering it over dinner) that could possibly disable this situation, are the following

- Change all NPC AI (as I don't beleive it to be at all fair to apply the change to these necromancers alone) so that they will not reapply an enchantment on a single target for 3-5 seconds, regardless as to whether it is removed or not. This would have a profound effect on the rest of the game, no doubt.

- Change all NPC AI so that they will not follow a target past their initial standing agro range to use a skill on them. Same as above.

- Add a skill recharge time to Death Nova. This would be met with huge uproar from players, no doubt. The conditions with which the skill triggers are harsh enough.

- Change the function of Release Enchantments to only remove monk enchantments. Further making the skill even more unpopular, as it's Divine Favor attribute makes it difficult to link into builds as it is.

Like I said, it's not an exploit, it's part of the game mechanic. If you want it nerfed for that single area so badly, be prepared for some damage to the rest of the game.

07/17/07 06:31

Toa Hahli

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

Why do people Defend these idiots who Exploit things Like Touchers and the Aspenwood one? Unless......you know...they do it themselves and dont want it fixed?

07/17/07 06:36

Sgt P

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

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Why do people Defend these idiots who Exploit things Like Touchers and the Aspenwood one? Unless......you know...they do it themselves and dont want it fixed?

It is not really being defended. Just being stated that it is not an exploit just a stradegy. If you say this is an exploit then so is the 55hp anything. An exploit would be kinda like a bug, for example you find a repeatable quest that says you get 200 gold, plus 2000 exp, well you complete it and notice you got 200 exp and 2000 gold instead. Then you just keep repeating this and not reporting it, to me this would be an exploit of the game.

If you are just using skills that are in the game then I do not see it as anything else but stradegy. Most people that complain about "exploits" like this are usually the ones that have not or can not figure out a way to beat them. Like touchers, there are builds that take them out rather easy and people that have figured it out usually do not complain about the touchers anymore. Just keep working on a stradegy to combat there (Kurz) stradegy.

Only my 2 cents...

07/17/07 06:53

The Soldat

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

I think it is an exploit since you should be able to destroy the gates. And while necromancers are away, thats impossible. A-net meant to do that and people are exploiting the "bug" of necromancers moving around casting death nova. Though I'm luxon .

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07/17/07 07:25

puffydog

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

Amen, Sgt P's post nailed everyone's above.

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07/17/07 07:25

Toa Hahli

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

Well, its not that i cant beat touchers, theyre fairly easy to kill. Headbutt + Plague Touch usually does the trick on my War. Expose Defenses On my sin. its just im tired of seeing people use such an easy build.To borrow a quote from Geico " It's so easy, a Caveman could use it."

07/17/07 07:55

Sgt P

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

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I agree with you there are some lame builds out there, but they are not exploits they are just lame builds. And you may think that the stradegy of others is lame but it may be good for them, still does not make it an exploit. I mean you may think that the build you use is the greatest of all time, and people find it difficult to beat you in a 1v1 battle, so should they think that you found an exploit or that you just have a good stradegy and or a good understanding of the skills?

Let me just make myself clear here, I am not defending anyone that uses these lame builds. I for one HATE the cookie cutter builds nor do I like to just copy other peoples stradegy, I am just trying to point out the fact that this Kurz stradegy is NOT an exploit.

07/17/07 08:36

sweet_insanity

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

I have to disagree with u Sgt P, touchers aren't lame, they just kill a lot of ppl and are always penalized because of this. It is just a good build, which unlike most builds hasn't been nerfed.

07/17/07 08:55

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

It appears this may have been fixed by today's update. /goteam

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07/17/07 18:06

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It appears this may have been fixed by today's update. /goteam

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07/17/07 18:10

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

Anything that enables one side to win without performing in the mission in the way it was designed for and allows that team to win without participating appropriately is a design flaw, something that obviously needs fixing, thats the way I see it :)

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07/17/07 18:29

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

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one thing i know will stop the leechers is to make it so that ppl don't get exp and faction a long distance from the action.

i think this is already true but in fort aspenwood case, the range should be lowered.

this will do nothing for leavers/quitters but at least the leecher problem sould go away.

07/17/07 18:34

smokebam_07

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

ya im luxon and this sucks for me but heres a thought START DOING JADE QUARRY IM SO FING TIRED OF ASPENWOOD WITHOUT EVAN SEEING WHAT THE QUARRY IS LIKE!!!!!

07/17/07 18:49

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

It's an exploit, game flaw, cheating,etc. in my opinion. There is absolutely NO strategy at all in luring an NPC to a certain area so that the other team can never, ever win. That is very, very, very unfair and unsportsman like. How can you people sit there and call it a legit and fair strategy when it makes it absolutely impossible for the l]Luxon side to win? Huh? Answer me that. (It's almost like an Invincibility cheat. Pull the necromancer back and the gates become invincible. THAT would be cheating in any game, no matter what anyone says.) IMO, it's an exploit that definitely needs to be fixed. They could easily fix it by not allowing the Kurzick NPCs to pass backwards through the gates but allow human Kurzick players too. Easy fix and it goes back to being fair for everyone.

Just my 2 cents...

07/17/07 18:50

Mordakaida

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

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That will still hurt the players who are working. If you leech once you get a 24 hour ban. Twice you get a week ban. Third time you get a month ban and any more then that it is a perm ban on your account. :) that will make these leechers think twice about not helping.

07/17/07 18:58

slye_boy

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

@ EG, just to clear it up, i was joking ;)

And how bout this as a way to stop leaching...in FA luxon side anyway...people that stay in the starter area, get no faction, simple :D

07/17/07 19:01

Deicide0032

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RE: Lame people exploiting aspenwood

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@ EG, just to clear it up, i was joking ;)

And how bout this as a way to stop leaching...in FA luxon side anyway...people that stay in the starter area, get no faction, simple :D

Then leechers will just go out portal each time...

07/20/07 17:34

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