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| Respec Mission = AAAAAAHHHH!!!! |
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So I get an invite from a guy wanting to do the respec mission, the lvl 24-33 one, I agree to it as I need to take away 2 extra slots from my sprint, maybe 3, and put them on my other powers.
So after about an hour and a half of looking for 2 others, I find 2 people and get him to invite them and we're on our merry way, we work our way down to the vines everything going smoothly, I know the tree kills in one hit and that you have to kill the vines first so we started weed whacking after smashing all the mobs, we get the vines down to 5 they respawn to 15 and then 23 and they kept killing us and respawning and killing us and respawning. After 4 hours and a thousand >expletive deleted< >expletive deleted< >expletive deleted< >expletive deleted< >expletive deleted< >expletive deleted< vines later they we're still at 20 cuz we get them down and they pop right back, so we quit and all I got to show for it is a crapload of wasted time a new level and 22+k debt. Yeah >expletive deleted< this mission.
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| 07/18/07 01:23 |
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Basically, you're gonna need some people that can deal more damage faster.
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| 07/18/07 02:04 |
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Y'know, I've heard many complaints about the Respec SF (and TF Hero-side), but have never had a problem with either except for once on each side when a number of people got frustrated and left. As far as the vines go, I have never even seen a screenshot of the 'counter' for the vines and in two instances I was the one to just say 'HIT THE TREE NOW!' when I noticed that the bugger was open for damage. In fact, once, a trusted friend and VG mate (my Co-Leader) was telling me that the counter was still showing 15 vines while my Bots were merrily dropping the Tree. I mean that with or without the counter there were still many vines 'up' (respawned), but the Tree was ready to go down.
Perhaps it is my anarchic style of play that helped drag the failing patience of my team-mates to get over the hump and finish the mish. I dont honestly know, but I would always suggest you have someone watching the Tree for signs of weakness because in my experience the Tree will drop eventhough the game says it's not time. YMMV, but it always works for me.
Sadly, the wonkiness of the Respec Trials have become legend and many wont attempt them and those who do will often just give up if it doesnt 'pop' in a very short time. When building a team, make sure that you have 'true believers' who are committed to finishing the SF or you are finished before you even begin.
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| 07/18/07 02:19 |
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To complete the respec trial with minimal difficulty make sure every member of the team is set to no higher than Vicious. Once done clear through to the vine room. Rather than killing the vines just knock them all down to half way then go back once all of them are down to half and finish them off. Its quick and easy but does require 2 to 3 brutes and a kin corr, and someone with rez and heal would be good to have on hand just in case.
If you really want to ease the mish up even more just have everyone but the team lead log for 5 minutes then once everyone has logged have the team lead enter the mish and wait the 5 minutes. once everyone logs back on they will automatically be readded to the team and poof now the mish is set for one person.
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| 07/18/07 04:17 |
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The few times that I was able to participate in a Respec mission, we had a good bit of success.
I believe it's all in what type of team you put together when doing this mission. When you get to the Vines, you have to be able to deal a lot of damage very quickly, and the attack has to be coordinated as well.
We basically had a full team of 8 and had people that could solo a Vine solo and if someone needed help with damage, they'd team with someone else. We had half the team start in one direction and the other half go in the other direction. When we were able to see each other, we knew it was about time to hit the Tree. We had some a couple of Brutes, a couple of Stalkers, a couple of MMs, and a couple of Corrs.
The last thing is...the vines will respawn, but you can't really focus on them because when they spawn back, so does the CoT that you defeated in the first place. When they come back, you'll have to deal with whatever groups are attacking you (which should only take about 2-3 of your team) and the rest continue the focus on the Tree.
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| 07/18/07 08:25 |
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Just tried the Cap respec trial, up to 23k debt now. I honestly think the respec trials are rigged, the mobs spam immobilizes and holds then somehow deal 40 times the damage they were doing when you could move. I may as well just wait to get my respec veteran reward cuz these Respec missions are bs.
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| 07/18/07 13:21 |
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| QUOTE | | Just tried the Cap respec trial, up to 23k debt now. I honestly think the respec trials are rigged, the mobs spam immobilizes and holds then somehow deal 40 times the damage they were doing when you could move. I may as well just wait to get my respec veteran reward cuz these Respec missions are bs. |
Go level to 50, grab four or five other level 50 villains and do the respec trial again. It'll be a breeze.
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| 07/18/07 13:33 |
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| QUOTE | | Go level to 50, grab four or five other level 50 villains and do the respec trial again. It'll be a breeze. |
Thats easy enough to say, but I think it would be better getting the respec done now, rather than waiting until lvl50.
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| 07/18/07 14:20 |
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Ninja MM's are goos because they are aggro sensitive, meaning they switch targets alot when unsupervised, and although not great when immobed, they still have both ranged and melee attacks, which potentially make them good. Now some would argue zombies are better, but fact is they are less aggro sensitive, and if your trying to save roots at low life for a sweep ninja may be the key.
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| 07/18/07 15:31 |
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I believe that five minute log out method no longer works, at least from what I see. Here's the story:
I was on a respec team of seven a long while ago, and the leader suggested we try this method..in which I was familiar with from previous respec trials. So I log out for five minutes, than come back in and enter the mission, seeing that the vine count was set for one person. However, after every person entered the mission(including me), the counter began to go up automatically depending on the number of people logging back on and entering the mission. It is now more intelligent, if you will.
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| 07/18/07 15:31 |
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| QUOTE | I believe that five minute log out method no longer works, at least from what I see. Here's the story:
I was on a respec team of seven a long while ago, and the leader suggested we try this method..in which I was familiar with from previous respec trials. So I log out for five minutes, than come back in and enter the mission, seeing that the vine count was set for one person. However, after every person entered the mission(including me), the counter began to go up automatically depending on the number of people logging back on and entering the mission. It is now more intelligent, if you will. |
hmmmm, we did have a brute that kept getting D/Ced and reconnecting. Oh well, went from 23k debt to 0 debt after just a few missions, may not have leveled up but still pretty fun, kinda wanna do respec though cuz I have 4 slots in sprint and I want to get rid of Group Flight, it seems more useful for a Master Mind than a Corruptor, I'll probably go with opening the concealment power pool.
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| 07/18/07 22:05 |
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| QUOTE | Ninja MM's are goos because they are aggro sensitive, meaning they switch targets alot when unsupervised, and although not great when immobed, they still have both ranged and melee attacks, which potentially make them good. Now some would argue zombies are better, but fact is they are less aggro sensitive, and if your trying to save roots at low life for a sweep ninja may be the key.
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| 07/19/07 02:21 |
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got it done, no sweat.
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| 07/20/07 00:29 |
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| QUOTE | | got it done, no sweat. |
Congratulations!
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| 07/20/07 01:03 |
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We did it less than 30 minutes.
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| 07/20/07 18:44 |
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| QUOTE | | Ninja Masterminds are the best if you ask me. |
Yes I am.
Glad to hear you completed it. Of course, being a Ninja Mastermind, I have never, not even once, had an issue with a respec trial. The only thing remotely resembling a problem would be when half of the team quit when their attempt to take out all the vines wasn't working. But of course, me being the incredibly awesome Ninja MM that I am, stopped listening to the leader, who was clearly not as amazing as me, and went off on my own, tearing apart the vines one by one, but making sure not to kill any. Instead my plan was to leave them all with just a sliver of health. In this totally original manner I was then able to go through the vines once more taking all of them out almost singlehandedly while the rest of my team was still discussing strategy. Before you knew it the tree was dead (thanks to me of course) and I was looking at a crappy recipe completely unworthy of my greatness. *Delete*
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| 07/20/07 19:52 |
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It was easy, we just malfactored 2 high level guys and then we got down to the vines and they lackied us, the vines and tree were pretty much gray as were the ambushers.
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| 07/21/07 23:22 |
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