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hikimi

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luxon and kurzick tactics

okay this topic is all about AB there is a never ending war between the luxons and kurzicks(wich i happen to be making good profits off so keep fighting) and the one thing on all mpas is the strategys used agsint one another so if youve found that master plan then let us all know so that we can make these fights even more interesting. i'll start us off with a classic tactic and how to counter it.

THE TACTIC: THE MOB
FACTION: MOSTLY KURZICK
STRENGTHS: POWERFUL HARD TO COUNTER AN WHEN ON A ROLL ALMOST UNSTOPPABLE
DISADVANTAGES: WONT WORK WITH OUT AN MM. CAN BE SLIPPED ROUND. VERY FOCUSED ATTENTION BAD FOR OUT CAPPING.

RATING: CLASSIC TACTIC THATS GETTING WEAKER 7/10

okay first things first this is desighned to help the luxons to counter the mob not the kurzicks.

okay first thing is anatomy of a mob

THE HEART:THE MM. OFTEN 1 COMMOJ IS ALSO 2. POSSIBLY 3 BUT THIS IS RARE.

THE STOMACH: ELE'S LARGE AMOUNTS OF EM WITH STRONG BUILDS MOSTLY FIRE THEY WILL BURN YOU TO HELL WHILE USIN MINIONS AS A WALL.

THE MUSCLE: WARRIORS AND PLENTY OF THEM THEY WILL CAUSE HAVOC AND KEEP CASTERS DISTRACTED OF THE MM.

THE BLOOD: MONKS. THEY WILL KEEP THE MM HEALED FOR SOME TIME.

okay anotomy over. so we now know what mob is. well now how it works. mostly teams will split into 3 groups and capture outer shrines but they will then move into one group at the center map shrine. ancestral lands is a good example.
they will then generally move as 1 group with warriors generally moving ahead then the MM then casters like ele's and monks. they will head towards the enemy base and then move in a circle round the map or in a random patter from shrine to shrine. this means that the mob is very slow.
it is worth noting that head on collisions with this mob is ill advised but certain proffesions can kill the mob by
destroying the heart. and this brings to

COUNTERS:

the most powerful anti mob weapon is the assassin. best if done as a duo or trio effort with warriors heading the charge distracting enemies. the assassins then rush to the necro MM and let off their chains. the chains should try ti incorpratesome knock downs to disrupt necro self healing.
this will cause all minions to become hostile after the necro dies spelling disaster as the aggro there own allaies and will help the opposing team. the opposing team can then either try to kill the rest of the enemys team(1) or reatreat and let the minions do it for them.

the next counter is veretas aura necro.

this is as it sais a necro with veretas aura this will take conrtol of all enemy minions.
the aura necro should be backed up by warriors in the front lines and necros and monks in the back. and thast that basic strategy.

and our last stratgey. out manouver.

the mob while strong is like many strong things slow.

this means that a team of swift players with a few speed boosts can run ahead of the mob capping shrines throughput the map. and thus out cap the enmey mob. and if people then avoid the mob it means that all the points being scorred by both teams will be from the shrines. and sinec the mob will have slow cap they will either loose or break up into more managable small teams easily destryoed by eles and a good assassin at the MM.

and thats the end of this strategy if you have any others dont be afrraid to share them love ya all :)
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07/23/07 16:46

Xellois55

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

You believe in Tactics in AB? With random people?

Unless you happen to get your entire guild/alliance in one place, with so many random people and wannabe leaders, its impossible to introduce any tactics, just hope they all stick in groups, know that CAPPING is the way to win and bingo.

If not, its called Anarcy, the cornerstone of AB society.

07/23/07 16:50

hikimi

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

actuaaly its not deisgned aroun set teams its just a general thing for counters as you can see i didnt set any one deffenite build just the ways that certain proffesions can be used agaisnt this. i know i run a verrteas aura necro and an ele alot in AB and trust me a few of the things ive doen have worked. and it will help just to help people to see the way things work. and youll see that not all these counters needed a defenite build or porffesion. look at the out manoveur. trust me youll see if you with me in AB. my nmaes for PvP chars are i ate your mini pet(varoius). and you have no face( vertas aura necro)

07/23/07 16:57

Solas Alainn

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

tbh mobbing is effecctive when used on people that havent the sense to move out the way.but why would you want to try to target a mob?

but yeah it is really anarchy, a real battlefield,pretty unorganised which makes it a pretty unique exp. in gw

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07/23/07 16:57

hikimi

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

yea thats one reason i love it so much. but trust me when your bellowing out orders to people who are currently loosing or near enough on a tie its ammazing how well people respond even if it isnt an organised response people do respond.
i know half the time im the one doing it

07/23/07 16:59

Lady Alica

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

In an AB a few months back, we saw an E/D tank the entire Luxon team. That is the only time I've appreciated ele tanks....that guy was our hero.

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07/24/07 10:29

Im Nuclear

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

kurzicks never mob.. >> we just go 4-4-4. leave t to luxons to mob. anyway, what was the point of this topic? :S

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07/24/07 10:59

Oilball

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

Im Nuclear's right, I've seen way more Luxon mobs that Kurzick.

07/24/07 11:04

hikimi

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

erm actually who mobs pends what happenin and im luxon so i noticed kurzicks more. but when isee large groupsi stay out of em cuz i think mobs are stupid. they like jelly fish lots o stingers no brains.
what was the point of this topic?
the point is to find the most commonly used things in AB and make up ur own ways a person can use individual builds or loosely based team tactics to get an advantage.

like my ways of dealing with a mob. works for both teams. i know ive had my MM had that necro one done alot and used veretas necro myslef. we won the battle i used that by 200 points.

and as for tanks. 2 ways to work agasint them. number one when you go in a team ask a guild memeber or a team member to bring rend enchantments or sometin. it takes one space and its useful in all battles. since you usualy get atleast one tank or derv.

or just leave the tank and annoy everytin else. and touch
rangers will eat tanks alive.. see you dont need deffo builds ot teams just a little bit of knowledge of whats goin on.

and like i say shouting at people to do sometin works.i know. we sually win when im in a battle. luxons i meen. not always but alot.

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07/24/07 13:46

Im Nuclear

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

hmm, i should try to get a group of 4 55 monks for AB.. MUAHAHAHA

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07/24/07 14:12

chiellus

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

Let's put AB-tactics down to this: when you have a good team with 2 normal teams that know what following and capping mean, with a few wannebe leaders inbetween that actually know what they are doing: key to victory.

Anything else: defeat when the enemy brings better teams, a single team of GOOD assasins, or a necro-team with a mm...

And a rolling mob, yeah, unstoppable, but can be countered by a good group of 9-10 people, that would make them tied to a single spot. If those 9-10 people have a midliner that takes out necro's and enemy monks, and you have got a good monk in your mid'st, then the 2-3 rest people run around capping the shit out of everything.

in short: brind a specialised or a good balanced team, hope for a wonder, and keep those mobs under control, or smash them to bits...

(yesterday I actually met people in AB that thought mobbing was the way to go, and when I said CAP, they replied with: what's that.... * sigh * )

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07/24/07 14:21

hikimi

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

thank you chilies for realising what i mean. and yea one or two people who know what theyer doin are the key. usually its me.

we were actuaaly behind kurzicks by 100 when they were mobbing then my entire team shouted cap and we won by outcapping till our duo assassin team killed the necro.

i usually MM or a sin or ele.
ah and people during Ab dont go hurling insults its a game and its childish and imature. i know i been called names alot when am massacering people too much.

07/25/07 05:58

Oilball

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

A good thing to do when people shout childish stuff like 'Kurzick *blankety blanks* i pwnz uuuuz'....

is to just say 'aw bless' and make them look like the little kids they are =]

but anyway its good that you're suggesting some anti-mobbing tactics because mobs really annoy me.. until you can coordinate your team to kill the MM then the mob usually fizzles out.

edit: for being helpful I shall give you some cred =]

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07/25/07 06:45

hikimi

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

dear oilball thank yous. hugs for you*hugs*

and when people start yelling names i just tell em to shutup or face me like a man/woman. face to face.

07/25/07 13:13

XxLionxX

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

you know kurzicks never mod well if they do it's cause they have 1 MM around them so it looks like there are 5 people...but luxon's now if you dont see an MM or see 1 theya are gonna mob either way. Why I dont know but Luxon's haev the tittle of being weak so they have to mob to win...either way your getting factions and shouldn't say bad stuff in the game.

02/17/08 21:20

Chrisworld

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RE: luxon and kurzick tactics

There both the same, they both complain, they both hate each other. No differences. GG.

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