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| What happened to the promised Epic Villains for i10? |
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So any ideas? I have been unable to find information on why they were not included or have not been included yet.
How long we villains need to wait?
I WANT TO CREATE MY EPIC!!!!
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| 07/27/07 00:45 |
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| QUOTE | So any ideas? I have been unable to find information on why they were not included or have not been included yet.
How long we villains need to wait?
I WANT TO CREATE MY EPIC!!!! |
yeah we want our epics, we need something good and dark, not fair heroes got warshade, we better not get stuck with the kheldian.
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| 07/27/07 01:09 |
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| RE: What happened to the promised Epic Villains for i10? |
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| QUOTE | | What happened to the promised Epic Villains for i10? |
They never promised epic villain AT's would be in I10. In fact, they confirmed that they wouldn't be a while ago. As to why- they haven't quite dreamed up the new AT's yet. After they do, it'll still take a while to actually implement. Don't expect to see them anytime soon.
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| 07/27/07 01:40 |
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| RE: What happened to the promised Epic Villains for i10? |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | What happened to the promised Epic Villains for i10? |
They never promised epic villain AT's would be in I10. In fact, they confirmed that they wouldn't be a while ago. As to why- they haven't quite dreamed up the new AT's yet. After they do, it'll still take a while to actually implement. Don't expect to see them anytime soon. |
Cryptic has CONFIRMED that the Villain Epic Archetypes will NOT BE IN THE GAME UNTIL 2008!! That is confirmed. Live with it.
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| 07/27/07 02:33 |
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I can live with it by not playing it (CoV)...
The players, Devs and GMs of CoV/CoH are excelent but without Epics for both in the forseeable future it seems once again CoH get's the Gold Mine and CoV gets the Shaft.
I want to hear the reasons behind this, why the hate for CoV? Or am I missing something because I have not been aware of or seen much love for CoV and i'm letting that cloud my judgement maybe.
CoV is the Blacksheep of CoX and is treated as such this is how it seems to me, am I wrong?
Do you think i'm over reacting?
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| 07/27/07 04:03 |
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not at all the heroes have only had to wait 3 issues (ibelieve) for tyheir Epic's and we have now waited four!
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| 07/27/07 04:48 |
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| QUOTE | I can live with it by not playing it (CoV)...
The players, Devs and GMs of CoV/CoH are excelent but without Epics for both in the forseeable future it seems once again CoH get's the Gold Mine and CoV gets the Shaft.
I want to hear the reasons behind this, why the hate for CoV? Or am I missing something because I have not been aware of or seen much love for CoV and i'm letting that cloud my judgement maybe.
CoV is the Blacksheep of CoX and is treated as such this is how it seems to me, am I wrong?
Do you think i'm over reacting? |
Yes you are over reacting.
City of Heroes has way more players than City of Villains, hence why the devs want to keep them a bit happier than the villains.
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| 07/27/07 06:22 |
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As you guys may or may not already know, I don't give two shakes about when villain EATs are coming out. I'm a hero and like to dabble in the dark side on occasion, but only when no one else is looking.
But I'm sure there are good reasons why the red EATs aren't out yet.
Yeah, you have to wait a little bit longer, but they will probably be cooler and a little more complex than hero EATs. If you think about it, they have to do a LOT more than just unlock khleds for villains. Aside from new EAT contacts, they have to develop how many more new story lines to give you the history and plot lines for the EATs. Khleds get new specific story arcs every 5 levels so that's at least 6 new and interesting arcs for people to run thru.
They also have to write the history of the AT and how they got to the Rogue Isles.
Also, after reading many arguments from a variety of sources, I still cannot see how villains or heroes are getting the preverbial shaft when it comes to content.
This issue's content is 100% neutral and both sides can enjoy it, hell, and even team together! i9 was neutral as well, and could in fact be argued that heroes got less content because villains got the Abyss. Yeah heroes had it before, but if you're arguing issue specific content, villains won.
i8 was a revamping of Faultline and police scanner missions for heroes. I can't think of anything specific that villains got so heroes won that one.
i7 was all villain love. Got a new MM powerset (thuggers).
But I honestly don't see any bias one way or the other from the development team since CoV launched.
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| 07/27/07 06:40 |
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Now, I'm one that wants to get the EATs as well, however, we all have to understand....it will take a while to create a totally new concept and storyline.
Like Big stated, Story Arcs are not easy to come by, especially when they have to be tied back into the overall scheme of things.
Yes, I want my EAT!!! However, i understand what pays the bills as well, and that would be CoH seeing it came first and has the bigger player base and attracts more newer players than CoV. Life is what it is and that's that.
I for one, want the EAT to be something worth having and something just thrown together just to appease me. Now, hopefully, when they do put them out, we'll have plenty of new content, story arcs and options for them!
Now I hope they took the hint on how they did our PPPs and provide some more variety and variances between the EATs.
We'll get what's coming to us when the time is right. Now, me, I like what's going on with I10! More Story Arcs, more things to do outside of the regular norm because the 35+ stuff was getting a little old, per say. Now we have options where we want to level our higher end toons...what could be better than that ATM??? There is love coming our way, it may not be what everyone wants, but love is love (even tough love is still love).
Time and patience is what's needed with games like this, because you would be more dissappointed if they threw some cheap EATs at you and expected you to be happy with them instead of taking their time to make them something worth having.
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| 07/27/07 07:15 |
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OK you win, I do see great evil deeds in our future and many heroes made to beg like the Running Dogs they are.
/em spit
With that beautiful image of pwnage in my gulliver I guess I can wait.
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| 07/27/07 18:08 |
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Meh. I really wouldnt expect the Villain Epics to enter the game until Requiem brings the Nictus Threat back to Earth with or after the Fifth Column is reestablished. So, per the scuttlebutt and the last comic... Issue 11 at the earliest, probably Issue 12 and that would mesh nicely with the Confirmed information.
Besides which, I'm not enamored of my Hero Khelds so I'll wait and create a Nictus when they arrive, and see if I become a true believer or just stick with my strong suits. After seeing high level Khelds; I dont see them as making a big difference. Remember: Epic means the storyline, not teh uberness.
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| 07/27/07 21:08 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | I can live with it by not playing it (CoV)...
The players, Devs and GMs of CoV/CoH are excelent but without Epics for both in the forseeable future it seems once again CoH get's the Gold Mine and CoV gets the Shaft.
I want to hear the reasons behind this, why the hate for CoV? Or am I missing something because I have not been aware of or seen much love for CoV and i'm letting that cloud my judgement maybe.
CoV is the Blacksheep of CoX and is treated as such this is how it seems to me, am I wrong?
Do you think i'm over reacting? |
Yes you are over reacting.
City of Heroes has way more players than City of Villains, hence why the devs want to keep them a bit happier than the villains. |
Hence why there are less CoV players, they are so focused on making those dumb heroes happy, that CoV has been left out in the cold, which is why so many people dont play villains, the devs need to get out of their lil hero reality and wake up, heroes and villains need to be treated as equals, but until they are the game will never be fully balanced. In my opinion the heroes are nothing special, who are next to nothing without an emp.
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| 07/27/07 22:42 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | I can live with it by not playing it (CoV)...
The players, Devs and GMs of CoV/CoH are excelent but without Epics for both in the forseeable future it seems once again CoH get's the Gold Mine and CoV gets the Shaft.
I want to hear the reasons behind this, why the hate for CoV? Or am I missing something because I have not been aware of or seen much love for CoV and i'm letting that cloud my judgement maybe.
CoV is the Blacksheep of CoX and is treated as such this is how it seems to me, am I wrong?
Do you think i'm over reacting? |
Yes you are over reacting.
City of Heroes has way more players than City of Villains, hence why the devs want to keep them a bit happier than the villains. |
Hence why there are less CoV players, they are so focused on making those dumb heroes happy, that CoV has been left out in the cold, which is why so many people dont play villains, the devs need to get out of their lil hero reality and wake up, heroes and villains need to be treated as equals, but until they are the game will never be fully balanced. In my opinion the heroes are nothing special, who are next to nothing without an emp. |
Amen.
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| QUOTE | His name was Hearthbourne
Plays City of Heroes till the break of dawn
He likes his Scrappers
But will not settle for those Blappers
But when he gets out Thundercharge
Those PvP'ers die in the large |
My guides:
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