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jfire90
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Well i decided to make a toon that actually has powersets that are normally made by others. i went with fire/kin. I have a read a guide by thindarpants but i would like the opinion of other ampers too. I would like to know what u guys think of the powers in each set.......if u have the time. tyvm
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| 07/27/07 16:08 |
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Cold_Zone_II
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| QUOTE | Well i decided to make a toon that actually has powersets that are normally made by others. i went with fire/kin. I have a read a guide by thindarpants but i would like the opinion of other ampers too. I would like to know what u guys think of the powers in each set.......if u have the time. tyvm
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Hehe,
Nice Combo... This is the toon of choice for Power Levelers, just add the Infamous Family Map, and you will be paid to power level... not that I condone the activity for new players.
CoH Rocks
Blasters kill everything, usually before they get killed themselves. When it comes to dealing pain, a blaster has no equal. We just have a hard time taking our own medicine! So we love Tanks and 'fenders!
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| 07/27/07 16:15 |
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X'aos
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Fire/kinetics is an awesome build, when ever i get a chance to team with one, i do. This build basically takes the role of controller (via holds) and blaster (via Fire damage/boosting power)
Fire works with perfect symetry with kinetics being both are very close range affective.
Stand in the mob, fire of all your buffs/holds and watch as the mobs burn!
Triumph
Mutation-Stone 50 (Stone/Kinetics/Ice)
Proffessor.Benaz 50 (Fire/Rad/Fire)
Granite Guardian 38 (Stone/Fire)
Energy-Burn 33 (Fire/Energy blaster)
Dark Matter 30 (Tri Warshade)
Freedom
Ember Temptress 50 (Fire/Kin Corruptor)
X'aos 50 (Dark/Dark Defender)
Ice Bot-KLR 38 (Ice/SS Tanker)
Metamorphix 33 (Spine/WP scrapper)
Kizu Mecki 20 (Spine/SR Scrapper)
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| 07/27/07 19:53 |
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jfire90
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T...y...for those comments BUT can anybody put maybe a build up or opinion about the powers. much appreciated
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| 07/27/07 21:11 |
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Aurrius
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Here you go.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,20
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php
Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- Acc(A), Acc(3), RechRdx(5), RechRdx(7)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Heal(A), Heal(15), Heal(17), Acc(31), Acc(31)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- EndRdx(A), Acc(3), Acc(5), RechRdx(7)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Acc(A), Acc(40), RechRdx(46)
Level 6: Swift -- Run(A)
Level 8: Hot Feet -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(9), EndRdx(9), Acc(31), Dmg(34), Dmg(37)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc(A), Acc(11), RechRdx(11), RechRdx(43)
Level 12: Flashfire -- EndRdx(A), Acc(13), Acc(13), RechRdx(15), RechRdx(17), RechRdx(25)
Level 14: Health -- Heal(A)
Level 16: Assault -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(27)
Level 18: Cinders -- EndRdx(A), Acc(19), Acc(19), RechRdx(23), RechRdx(23), RechRdx(25)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod(A), EndMod(21), EndMod(21)
Level 22: Speed Boost -- RechRdx(A)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx(A), RechRdx(46), RechRdx(46)
Level 26: Tactics -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(27)
Level 28: Inertial Reduction -- Jump(A), Jump(29), RechRdx(29)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- EndRdx(A), EndRdx(50)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- Dmg(A), Dmg(33), Dmg(33), Acc(33), RechRdx(34), RechRdx(34)
Level 35: Transference -- EndMod(A), EndMod(36), Acc(36), Acc(36), RechRdx(37), RechRdx(37)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- EndRdx(A), Acc(39), Acc(39), RechRdx(39), RechRdx(40), RechRdx(40)
Level 41: Fire Ball -- Dmg(A), Dmg(42), Dmg(42), Acc(42), Acc(43), EndRdx(43)
Level 44: Fire Shield -- EndRdx(A), ResDam(45), ResDam(45), ResDam(45)
Level 47: Fire Blast -- Dmg(A), Dmg(48), Dmg(48), Acc(48), Acc(50), RechRdx(50)
Level 49: Increase Density -- EndRdx(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx(A)
Level 1: Containment
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@Aurrius | Paragon Knights | Ultimate Darkness | Union
| QUOTE | His name was Hearthbourne
Plays City of Heroes till the break of dawn
He likes his Scrappers
But will not settle for those Blappers
But when he gets out Thundercharge
Those PvP'ers die in the large |
My guides:
Broadsword/Regeneration Scrapper
Claws/Regeneration Scrapper
Energy Melee/Electric Armour Brute
Dual Blades/Willpower Scrapper
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| 07/28/07 02:34 |
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jfire90
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Thanks aurrius, i noticed that there is no travel power. i was thinking about the same thing.....do u think its a good idea to substitute siphon speed/inertial reduction instead of a travel power?
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| 07/28/07 06:39 |
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Aurrius
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| QUOTE | | Thanks aurrius, i noticed that there is no travel power. i was thinking about the same thing.....do u think its a good idea to substitute siphon speed/inertial reduction instead of a travel power? |
Siphon Speed (when slotted the way I slotted it) can easily be used as a travel power, because you will just about always hit the enemy, and you have plenty of time to find another enemy to use it on when it's about to run out (even better, you can stack them for more than 24 seconds).
Inertial Reduction is even easier. Once you get it, it'll be your new travel power. 2xJump will make it fast, and high, and 1xRecharge will enable you to stack it.
@Aurrius | Paragon Knights | Ultimate Darkness | Union
| QUOTE | His name was Hearthbourne
Plays City of Heroes till the break of dawn
He likes his Scrappers
But will not settle for those Blappers
But when he gets out Thundercharge
Those PvP'ers die in the large |
My guides:
Broadsword/Regeneration Scrapper
Claws/Regeneration Scrapper
Energy Melee/Electric Armour Brute
Dual Blades/Willpower Scrapper
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| 07/28/07 08:21 |
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Houston
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Siphon Speed doesn't relly do the trick. If your going to have hot feet activated and stand in the middle of a group. Your going to need some defense. I suggest getting Combat Jump,Super Jump and Acrobatics.
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| 07/28/07 12:32 |
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LordStarwolf
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Siphon speed will work fine until IR gets there. My level 32 Ill/Kin never took a travel power. It works just fine and gives you extra power pool slots. When I got IR I respeced out siphon speed and its all good.
Guardian
Avant Guard = Emp/Rad/Psychic Defender Lvl 50 (Dedicated Healer)
Astral Plane = Peacebringer Lvl 50
Spica = Fire/Em/Energy Tank Lvl 50 (Scranker)
Avant Spines = Spines/Regen Scrapper Lvl 50 (AOE King)
Beliskner = Eng/Eng Blaster Lvl 41 (Blapper)
Avant Kin = Ill/Kin Controller Lvl 36
BMG = AR/Dev Blaster Lvl 27
Avant Psy = Psychic Blast/Empathy Defender Lvl 20 (Offender)
Avant Def = Kinetics/Energy Blast Defender Lvl 16
Avant Stone = Stone/Storm Controller lvl 15 (Super Controller)
Umbral Plane = Warshade Lvl 14
Triumph
Lord Yu = MA/Regen Scrapper Lvl 24
Protector
T-99 = Ice/Ice Tanker Lvl 20
Electrostun = Electric/EM Blaster Lvl 21 (Sapper)
Starwolf = Katana/Inv Scrapper Lvl 18 (my very first toon, 3 years ago)
Pinnacle
Avant Claws = Claws/Regen Scrapper Lvl 18 (Non-power pool toon)
Champion
Avant Dragon = Fire/Fire Blaster Lvl 20
Freedom
Avant Arch = Archery/NRG Blaster Lvl 27
And many, many, many more....
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| 07/28/07 12:43 |
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Aurrius
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| QUOTE | | Siphon speed will work fine until IR gets there. My level 32 Ill/Kin never took a travel power. It works just fine and gives you extra power pool slots. When I got IR I respeced out siphon speed and its all good. |
You do realise that Siphon Speed gives you a 20% recharge bonus? So if you stack it, that gives you 40% recharge! Keep it for the recharge... not the speed.
@Aurrius | Paragon Knights | Ultimate Darkness | Union
| QUOTE | His name was Hearthbourne
Plays City of Heroes till the break of dawn
He likes his Scrappers
But will not settle for those Blappers
But when he gets out Thundercharge
Those PvP'ers die in the large |
My guides:
Broadsword/Regeneration Scrapper
Claws/Regeneration Scrapper
Energy Melee/Electric Armour Brute
Dual Blades/Willpower Scrapper
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| 07/28/07 13:13 |
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LordStarwolf
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That sounds good, but I haven't noticed the boost at all. Even looked for it and timed it and didn't notice a major difference. And to get a long lived double stack requires slots for recharges or hasten taking a slot. I need slots and other powers. I'll probably get it back later, but for now other things take precedence.
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| 07/28/07 15:36 |
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Warron Peace
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Give this a shot, its the current build of Blazing Peace, my 50 fire/kin.
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name:
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Fire Control
Secondary: Kinetics
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01) --> Char==> Rechg(1) Acc(3) Acc(3) Dmg(5) Dmg(5) Dmg(7)
01) --> Transfusion==> Rechg(1) Acc(7) Acc(9) Heal(9) Heal(11) Heal(11)
02) --> Fire Cages==> EndRdx(2) Acc(13) Acc(13) Dmg(15) Dmg(15) Dmg(17)
04) --> Siphon Power==> Acc(4) Acc(17) Rechg(19) Rechg(19) Rechg(50)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> Jump(6)
08) --> Hot Feet==> EndRdx(8) EndRdx(21) Acc(21) Dmg(23) Dmg(23) Dmg(25)
10) --> Siphon Speed==> Acc(10) Acc(25) Rechg(27) Rechg(27) Rechg(50)
12) --> Flashfire==> Rechg(12) Rechg(29) Rechg(29) Acc(31) Acc(31) DisDur(31)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Hurdle==> Jump(16)
18) --> Health==> Heal(18)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(33) EndMod(33)
22) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(22) EndRdx(33) EndRdx(46)
24) --> Speed Boost==> EndMod(24)
26) --> Smoke==> TH_DeBuf(26) TH_DeBuf(34) TH_DeBuf(34)
28) --> Hasten==> Rechg(28) Rechg(34) Rechg(36)
30) --> Recall Friend==> Rechg(30)
32) --> Fire Imps==> Rechg(32) Acc(36) Acc(36) Dmg(37) Dmg(37) Dmg(37)
35) --> Transference==> Rechg(35) Rechg(39) Acc(39) Acc(39) EndMod(40) EndMod(40)
38) --> Fulcrum Shift==> Acc(38) Acc(40) Rechg(42) Rechg(42) Rechg(42)
41) --> Fire Ball==> Rechg(41) Acc(43) Acc(43) Dmg(43) Dmg(45) Dmg(45)
44) --> Fire Shield==> EndRdx(44) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(46) DmgRes(46)
47) --> Fire Blast==> Acc(47) Acc(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(48) Dmg(50)
49) --> Increase Density==> DmgRes(49)
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01) --> Power Quick==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
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Enjoy!
W.P.
my current project: Spine/Will farmer, Quillpower, on Virtue.
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| 07/28/07 18:59 |
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jfire90
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Thanks guys i am now lvl 12 (switching betwween this char and another) and its really fun. i would like to know the pros and cons about the epic pools in conjunction with fire/kin.
thanks
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| 08/01/07 21:43 |
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jfire90
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Oh and one other thing how fast does IR recharge. Siphon speed is getting annoying cause im afraid to use it on higher lvl mobs. i was KINDA thinking of getting a travel power but im not sure. any help would be great thanks
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| 08/02/07 07:56 |
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Electro
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IR recharges quickly enough that it is basically perma. The recharge and duration are about the same.
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| 08/02/07 08:12 |
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gambit4007
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Ice/Kin
I have an Ice/Kin troller and i noticed on both build that neither of you two took Increase Density until the late 40s(49 i believe). i took ID instead of Inertial Reduction, is this something i should respec and switch out of my toon??
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| 08/02/07 09:02 |
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i for got to mention that my Speed Boost is slotted for End Mod and not speed. if anyone outthere has a guide to this built please steer me in that direction. this is my 1st troller and i'd like to make him as efficient as possible.
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| 08/02/07 09:09 |
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jfire90
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Well im not an expert on this (thats why i made this thread) but as a blaster i would rather have the endmod than the speed, the speed is nice but there is no need to up it so IMO i think end mod is best way to go
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| 08/02/07 09:41 |
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Aurrius
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I have found a Fire Control/Kinetics guide for you, on the European boards: Spirit's guide to Fire/Kin Controllers
@Aurrius | Paragon Knights | Ultimate Darkness | Union
| QUOTE | His name was Hearthbourne
Plays City of Heroes till the break of dawn
He likes his Scrappers
But will not settle for those Blappers
But when he gets out Thundercharge
Those PvP'ers die in the large |
My guides:
Broadsword/Regeneration Scrapper
Claws/Regeneration Scrapper
Energy Melee/Electric Armour Brute
Dual Blades/Willpower Scrapper
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| 08/02/07 10:28 |
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