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Nibo100

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From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

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Changes to Favor of the Gods

When adventurers accomplish heroic deeds, the gods grant blessings to their world, known as "favor of the gods." Soon, adventurers will have new ways to earn this blessing.

Originally, the favor of the gods was granted to a specific "region" of players based on events in the Hall of Heroes. As of August 9, 2007, the favor of the gods will affect all players in the game world, regardless of where they live in the real world.

Earning Achievements

Favor will now be granted based on character-driven achievements. Each time a character achieves the maximum rank in a qualifying title, the world will be one step closer to gaining the gods' favor.

When a character earns one of these achievements, that character's name and accomplishment will broadcast in seven locations: the Temple of the Ages, Lion's Arch, the Great Temple of Balthazar, Kaineng Center, Zin Ku Corridor, Kamadan, and the Chantry of Secrets.

After twenty announcements have been made, all Guild Wars players in all territories will be granted the gods' favor for one hour. If another character earns an achievement during that time, the favor of the gods will be extended for an additional three minutes.

The first twenty-one qualifying titles are:

Survivor
Defender of Ascalon
Legendary Cartographer
Legendary Guardian
Legendary Skill Hunter
Legendary Vanquisher
Sunspear
Lightbringer
Kurzick
Luxon
Lucky
Unlucky
Gamer
Drunkard
Treasure Hunter
Wisdom
Sweet Tooth
Champion
Hero
Gladiator
Commander

Additional qualifying titles will be added upon the release of Guild Wars: Eye of the North.

Favor in Explorable Areas

When the world gains the gods' favor, statues to the gods will light up at specific locations in explorable areas. There's a limit to the number of these statues in the world. Each statue is located near a resurrection shrine or a gate between explorable areas.

When you find one of these statues, your character can kneel in front of it to summon an avatar of that god. After speaking to the avatar, your character can exchange gold for a temporary bonus. Possible bonuses include a morale boost, more Health, or a higher attribute. The bonus expires when you map travel or use a gate.

Special Realms

While the world has the favor of the gods, characters can travel to two special realms: the Underworld and the Fissure of Woe. To get to one of these special locations, your character will need to kneel before a statue of Grenth or Balthazar. These statues can be found in one of the following locations: the Temple of Ages (from the original Guild Wars campaign), Zin Ku Corridor (from Factions), or Chantry of Secrets (from Nightfall).

If your character kneels before one of these Grenth statues, that character can summon a spirit called the Voice of Grenth. By spending one platinum, your character can enter the Underworld, along with the rest of your party.

If your character kneels before Balthazar instead, you'll summon an avatar of the Lord of War. After spending one platinum, your party can travel to the Fissure of Woe.

Changes to the Hall of Heroes

Originally, the favor of the gods was granted to one region of players, depending on events in the Hall of Heroes. When a team of characters defended the Hall five consecutive times, all players from that region gained the favor of the gods.

Although maintaining control of the Hall no longer has an effect on the favor of the gods, the game will still globally announce when a team has defended that arena in PvP.

My question: will this mean more or less favor? And will this make less people play HoH?

08/09/07 14:20

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

Rawr sounds great :)

08/09/07 14:24

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

Not sure it will have any influence on more or less favor, but I would think that it would increase it for the majority of people because of the fact that more people will max titles at the same times as more people online from a given region. More people online equals more likely people to max a title.

I doubt it will influence the HoH play at all. I seriously doubt the HA players are influenced by the fact that "hey guys, if we hold the hall one more time, the the PvE players can go into the underworld!. Let's win this for the region!"

08/09/07 14:27

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

thats dumb. what is Anet thinking?? I mean seriously. They take away altar capping and put in stupid relic running and crap for halls and now they make halls useless? Cmon...that just hurts HA even more. Do they really wanna punish the HAer's that much?

And it can be a big deal for HA'ers because when you hold HoH it has a purpose. It's not a useless thing like, "oh look im winning in halls bla bla bla who cares," it's more like, "woot favor for America!" Let's take it back from Europe cuz they have it all day. It's a big thing for American's winning halls and now it'll be in the background.

Jeez...that's gonna be ridiculous

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quit gw for good. end of story.

08/09/07 14:27

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

ok so if im understanding this right, every time someone gets a new title we get favor? wtf is up with that. I liked it just the way it is.

08/09/07 14:27

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

Ummm, wow. There's an update that I wasn't expecting. I have to admit to being a little skeptical as to how this will work out. I do see the advantage of having favour at any time of day (believe me, here on the American servers, we don't get it that often). I can't place my skepticism at this point, nor can I articulate it. It's like unfounded. I guess we'll just have to see how things go.

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08/09/07 14:31

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Do you think that the PvP player cares that he has now enabled the PvE player to go to the UW or FoW? (Remember he is in the Halls, and can't even take advantage of what he helped do.)

Since these areas are PvE, then I feel it's a good thing that the PvE player can influence the favor of the gods.

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08/09/07 14:34

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

It will be nice to have favor more often if that does actually happen but don't know if I like this method of obtaining it.

08/09/07 14:40

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

OMFG look, it's everytime some1 maxes a title, look closely...THOSE ARE THE HARDEST F'ING TITLES TO MAX! omfg a-net, i live in america and we never had favor but i at least was happy that the euro's were happy. but now every1 will be equally miserable. guess what this means, MORE GRINDING!!!! HOORAY!

08/09/07 14:41

Nibo100

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THOSE ARE THE HARDEST F'ING TITLES TO MAX!

Those are the only titles the can be maxed at the moment, except the 'normal'(not legendary) titles -_-'

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08/09/07 14:45

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

I am not sure how this is going to work out but I am sure they did some calculations prior to doing this. Personally I am not too sure how well this will work I meam you only get favor when 20 people max a title, thats a lot of maxxing but I guess we will just have to see how it works out. I was fine with the scrolls, actually, grab a scroll and in you go whenever and with whoever you want. This should be interesting at least.

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08/09/07 14:48

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Actually a lot of PvP'ers do UW and FoW. When I was getting my fow helm for my warrior I was with a r10 monk who had 3 sets of FoW on her female monk. So they do take advantage of it and it's a nice thing to say I got favor for America, let's go farm cuz halls drops can get u money if you get lucky. Favor has always been about taking halls so why change it now all of a sudden? I mean it's been going well for the past 2 years and we now have fow and uw scrolls so anyone can go in, it just costs a couple k per scroll. Now favor is gonna be depended on pve grinding which is way stupid.

quit gw for good. end of story.

08/09/07 14:59

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

GREAT! Now the two highest level pve places are affected by pve now!

08/09/07 15:05

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this really sux, i liked it the way it was. whenever i felt like going to FoW i looked at the Favor, and if America had it (yes i'm european) i would go to take a shot at HA. i hope they change it back SOON! and i don't like maxing titles, if everyone thinks the same as me. Then it's gonna be a pain in the ass...

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08/09/07 15:19

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

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GREAT! Now the two highest level pve places are affected by pve now!

My sentiments exactly.

08/09/07 15:24

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

titles are there to show a distincion ( they were anyway)

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i tihnk there was also a nice bit of them thinking about thre rewards and their titles notut favour.

but also there were some that took an added bonus in gettign favour

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08/09/07 15:24

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I never understood why pvp affected pve in such a large way anyway.

08/09/07 15:29

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

this sounds quite nice especially for servers thjat dont often get the favour. the EU seems to have it alot right now.

08/09/07 15:34

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

I hate to judge this so quickly, but like others I'm kind of shocked too.

I seriously dislike title grinding to begin with, and the titles I have are ones I've just earned playing regularly over 2 years (Treasure Hunter, Wisdom, etc) not because I was expending a huge effort to get them.

They sure are pushing the titles mighty hard. I guess for those players who are actively persue them it's a good way to be rewarded. Though personally, at this moment I'm very inclined towards disliking this idea simply because I'm getting very tired of the massive Anet title push. It also seems like a finite system, though ecto prices might possibly go up again, who knows?

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08/09/07 15:58

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

well come to think of it....
if more people do PvE to finally get into UW/FoW there will be less farming in UW/FoW. Thus making those things u get there raise in prize again. and they will keep this for a while, because some people might use scrolls, but those aren't infinite either. Then after some time they will say something crappy like; 'Due to the bad responses we got from several GW players, we decided to make the favor of the gods thingy back to normal' and if the prizes of the ectos drop too much again, they will do something different like: which continent spends the most time in LA gets favor of the gods. ( i know stupid example, but it does the job :P) and maybe after that they will give the REAL reason (ecto's prize) and people will farm less. because they hate this new thing...

just speculating :P

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08/09/07 16:10

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

This is a shocking revelation, never expected anything like this.

The favor system as was created a sense of pride amongst fellow players when their side won that favor, it was a great way of inspiring some comradery, however it was also unfair to those who's regions were either less PvP focused or simply had a lower GW population. I can see how to some HA players winning favor helped provide motivation but I also agree something that affected PvE players the most should have PvE influence.

What worries me further down the line is that the GW population is likely to decrease between the release of GW:EN and the release of GW2, favor isnt going to be easy to come by when the hardcore players will probably have maxed their titles already. I'm not sure why the big push on titles and the need to find ways on encouraging us to attain them, espicialy when that push may well adversely affect certain aspects of the game.

There are many, many players who have maxed alot of those titles already (I've already maxed lightbringer) who are now going to be thinking they havent got the full advantages available from maxing a title. On the other hand it is an added bonus to those about to max or working on maxing a title.

My only interest in maxing titles is maxing the one which give me some advantage, for example Lightbringer, Sunspear and Allegiance rank for the skills and Treasure Hunter/Wisdom for a higher success rate in salvaging.

It seems weird that for a game that has been less focused on grinding suddenly decides to impliment something that requires grinding?

Juries out on this one for me, in the short term I see alot of people benefitting from having more access to the Realms of the Gods but the long term will need some tweaking IMO....

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08/09/07 16:25

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

This isn't really fair, is it?
If one region has more players than another one => more possible max titles => more favor.

08/09/07 16:29

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Don't get me wrong I like the idea that favor should be PvE oriented but max titles is a bit harsh most player don't even have enough gold to do it I mean what does 100 cap Sig's cost? 100k=max skill hunter drunkard? sweet tooth? people cant afford it?

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08/09/07 16:30

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

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This isn't really fair, is it?
If one region has more players than another one => more possible max titles => more favor.

The deion clearly states all regions so it is actually fairer as all regions will have access more often

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After twenty announcements have been made, all Guild Wars players in all territories will be granted the gods' favor for one hour.

Makes it a time lottery for all of us ^^

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08/09/07 16:40

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

They are pushing the title maxing because of the bonuses it gets you in GW:2 through the HoM.

Another way to max titles is by starting new characters, more characters means more slots needed, more slots needed means $9.95 in the pockets of A-Net per slot.

Seems to come down to money there...guess they like it for some reason...

08/09/07 16:46

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

Ah sorry didn't read the all regions thingy.
In that case, I find this a very good change, PvE things should be affected by PvE.

08/09/07 17:00

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Ectos = 2k! =D

08/09/07 17:11

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

For once i hope the whiny forum people around the globe will use their cry-out influence from preventing this from happening. Sure in begin this system is fun but when GW2 rolls out there will be practically no way of getting to any of the UW/Fow when the remaining mass of players migrates to GW2.

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08/09/07 17:11

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

Hmmm interesting turn of events... Can't say I'm entirely happy with what I've read. I only have the patience to run one title character (currently sitting on 13 maxed titles) and am not too excited about getting more max titles on additional characters... My storage is still hurting from the legendary skill hunter title gold sink T____T

Guess we'll see how it pans out in the next couple of days...

EDIT: I would have liked to see an expansion on the current favor system but include these character achievements on top.
So if Europe has favor, 20 US players earning maxed titles could still gain temporary favor for their region. meh!

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08/09/07 17:16

Hijaru Ta

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RE: From guildwars.com: changes to the favor of the gods

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After twenty announcements have been made, all Guild Wars players in all territories will be granted the gods' favor for one hour.

Makes it a time lottery for all of us ^^

but if all territories get favor for 1 hour, wouldn't there be massive lag? because you can only access through 3 outposts :S
correct me if i'm wrong, actually i would like it if u do :P

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08/09/07 17:16

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