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Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

[Dev Update] Gladiator Titles -- Proposed Changes
Within a few weeks we will be implementing a system that takes action against players who continually leave prior to the end of battles in PvP. This has been requested for quite some time, so we hope it addresses the problem. However, we also wish to ensure that when the anti-leaver system is implemented, players are not in a position where they feel we are punishing them for using the "best way" to get points towards the Gladiator title (i.e., continually leaving groups until you get into one that has a reasonable chance to get 10 wins in a row.) The way we hope to accomplish this is to reward players for each win or for smaller winning streaks so players are more concerned about "Can we win this fight?" rather than "Can we win this fight and the next 9 fights?" Our hope is that players would then be more likely to at least finish the battle they are on before returning to the outpost if they decide to join a different team.

The intention of this change is not to make the Gladiator Title easier to achieve. Rather, the designers are simply trying to change the way one acquires that title so that the system no longer punishes, or wastes the time of, those who stay on a team that is unlikely to have long winning streaks. The required points-per-rank in the title track would be increased to reflect the increase to the amount of points being given, and current title holder's number of Gladiator Points would be increased proportionately as well.

Here are three proposals for the new Gladiator Title System:

[edit] Proposal 1
More regular progess:

Every win gives you 1 point.
Players get points for streaks. Players get 5 points for each 5 consecutive wins.
Updating Current Title Holders:

Multiply current player points by 30.
Multiply each rank by 20
Proposal 1 Details:

Title 1: 500 points; Gladiator
Title 2: 1000 points; Fierce Gladiator
Title 3: 2000 points; Mighty Gladiator
Title 4: 3360 points; Deadly Gladiator
Title 5: 5600 points; Terrifying Gladiator
Title 6: 9320 points; Conquering Gladiator
Title 7: 5500 points; Subjugating Gladiator
Title 8: 25920 points; Vanquishing Gladiator
Title 9: 43200 points; King's Gladiator
Title 10: 72000 points; Emperor's Gladiator*
Title 11: 120000 points; Balthazar's Gladiator*
Title 12: 200000 points; Legendary Gladiator*

[edit] Proposal 2
Every 5 wins gives you 1 point
Every additional 5 consecutive wins gives you 2 points.
Updating Current Title Holders:

Multiply current player points by 4
Multiply each rank requirement by 3
Proposal 2 Details:

Title 1: 75 points; Gladiator
Title 2: 150 points; Fierce Gladiator
Title 3: 300 points; Mighty Gladiator
Title 4: 504 points; Deadly Gladiator
Title 5: 840 points; Terrifying Gladiator
Title 6: 1398 points; Conquering Gladiator
Title 7: 2325 points; Subjugating Gladiator
Title 8: 3888 points; Vanquishing Gladiator
Title 9: 6480 points; King's Gladiator
Title 10: 10800 points; Emperor's Gladiator
Title 11: 18000 points; Balthazar's Gladiator
Title 12: 30000 points; Legendary Gladiator

[edit] Proposal 3
Every 5 wins gives you 1 point
Every additional 5 wins gives you a bonus point (plus the original 1 for 5 wins). 10 wins = 2 total points, 15 = 3 total points, etc. This would be capped at 3 or 4 for every 5 win streak to keep it from getting out of control.
Multiply current points by 5
Multiply each rank by 4
Proposal 3 Details:

Title 1: 100 points; Gladiator
Title 2: 200 points; Fierce Gladiator
Title 3: 400 points; Mighty Gladiator
Title 4: 672 points; Deadly Gladiator
Title 5: 1120 points; Terrifying Gladiator
Title 6: 1864 points; Conquering Gladiator
Title 7: 3100 points; Subjugating Gladiator
Title 8: 5184 points; Vanquishing Gladiator
Title 9: 8640 points; King's Gladiator
Title 10: 14400 points; Emperor's Gladiator*
Title 11: 24000 points; Balthazar's Gladiator*
Title 12: 40000 points; Legendary Gladiator*
[edit] The current Gladiator Title Track
Title 1: 25 points; Gladiator
Title 2: 50 points; Fierce Gladiator
Title 3: 100 points; Mighty Gladiator
Title 4: 168 points; Deadly Gladiator
Title 5: 280 points; Terrifying Gladiator
Title 6: 466 points; Conquering Gladiator
Title 7: 775 points; Subjugating Gladiator
Title 8: 1296 points; Vanquishing Gladiator
Title 9: 2160 points; King's Gladiator
Title 10: 3600 points; Emperor's Gladiator
Title 11: 6000 points; Balthazar's Gladiator
Title 12: 10000 points; Legendary Gladiator
Please provide feedback! These ideas are not set in stone, nor are the specific numbers associated with the proposals. Please discuss this, offer suggestions for tweaks to the numbers, or offer alternative ideas. Keep in mind that players who leave battles prematurely will be punished, so we are looking for a system that encourages players to stay in battle, or at least a system that does not reward those who leave until they find a team that suits them. We will accept your input on this discussion page. Thank you for your input.

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what do you think? i'd say the first one ;)

08/17/07 13:28

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

yeah when i heard about this i was like wtf thats gonna screw over the title. Now at least theyre changing the points needed. Id say the first would be fun.

quit gw for good. end of story.

08/17/07 13:44

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

I'd say none.

For the leavers make it so every time they quit the next battle they go into they have no chance of getting a glad point out of it, eg: when they get to 10 he doesn't get it.

So if they keep quitting they have no chance of getting one.

P.s: I like the title the way it is now:)

08/17/07 13:46

Hardstrike

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

its not about the leavers, its about the people who don't want to leave but won't be able to play because of leavers.
u can't win 3 vs 4 or 2 vs 4 battles. thats rare..

so i guess it would improve a lot.

and the points you have atm wil be Multiplied by a factor, so u won't get disadvantaged for the effort u have spend on it already ;)

08/17/07 13:52

stanzhao1

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

i prefer it the way it is now to be honest,

but if theyre gonna change it i would like to see option 2, option 2 seems the closest to the way it is now,

but at least theyre trying to encorage people to not leaving :)

08/17/07 14:11

SycX

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

I'm willing to give that new system a try. Yesterday night when I was RA'ing a bit due to boredom (haven't been there for quite some time), I counted...from 36 matches I made, there were at least 2 leavers in 27 of them...so the best we got was 8 wins with one team (where nobody left...)...

08/17/07 14:27

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

As long as it isn't one I'll be happy, as proposal one will just make it like a farming title (which would suck :P ).

08/17/07 15:00

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

oh cmon dont turn this thread into BS about leavers. Just stop talking about leavers and assuming stuff. We've had tons of threads about leavers so dont go there unless you wanna start another huge discussion.

I'd rather keep the original way because its fair and you should only get glad points if u have a good team or get really lucky. I dont think glad points should be oh so common. If they were gonna change i would pick the first one like i said b4.

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08/17/07 15:32

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

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But leavers are the reason they are implementing something anyway. You can't talk about this and not mention that. Honestly I still think there would be levers no matter what. Why? Beacause there are stupid common people out there. At least with option one there would be a chance for non leavers to get the title who onyl ra casually.

08/17/07 16:00

LordOfDeath

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

I would love to see the title changed.
Im always open for new things.
I think that this would be a great way to stop players from leaving as well as change up the game a little bit.
If Anet really goes through with this change I will want to play Team Arenas much more.

08/17/07 16:04

Mother Nature

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In my opinion, i think the title should be left alone, due to the difficulty of getting the title, i don't want everyone i see with the glad title. I worked hard for my tier 3 glad title, i'd feel if all the hours i had spend working to get the title would be kind of a waste, getting a point a win is kind of dumb imo, 5 consec wins takes little effort to get, also, the title will be farmable if they make it 1 point per win (win one, leave, etc), unless they are adding some anti leaver thing >.>. I just hope they dont make the title really easy to get, because it shouldnt be, or screw it up. D:<

08/17/07 19:22

BobDown

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

If u already have points, or any of the titles in the track, ur points will get multiplied so it's not like all the effort u put in is going to waste.

08/17/07 19:31

Belshazaarswrath

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if you have tier 3 then thats 2000 points. 2000 wins. That is NOT an easy thing to do. That would probably take months to get.

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08/17/07 19:35

Mother Nature

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

Meh, I still dont like the idea of 1 point per win

08/17/07 19:48

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I really like the idea of number one. IMO that would solve the problem at least a little bit.

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08/18/07 01:15

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

Ruddy hell (excuse my rather mild language) it must take FOREVER to get to a high gladiatior rank!!!

Why don't they just multiply current point requirements by 10, give you a point per round won, and each winning streak of 5 gives 2 extra points... that way you'd cut down on leavers but reward 'skills' :)

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08/18/07 03:27

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RE: Gladiator title track change soon [Info]

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In my opinion, i think the title should be left alone, due to the difficulty of getting the title, i don't want everyone i see with the glad title.

About 98% of the PvP community has at least Gladiator (1). Its already easy to get, either: get a group of good players together in TA or keep trying RA until you get a great team (these do come along quite often).

In the same article this is copy-pasted from, they talk about how they are implementing a system to deal with leechers and leavers.

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08/18/07 03:30

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Read option #1 ;)

08/18/07 04:50

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yay more time spent on titles and not on new content ¬ ¬

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