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Hammerite Rozsda
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...that GWEN is expensive?
No I don't mean the game itself but the items in the game.
75 ecto and 10k for Gloves?
250 destroyer core for Gloves?
10 diamond, 10 onyx gem, 5k, 250 granite, 100 iron for a Weapon?
You know I understand that this episode is supposed to be for existing characters, but I'll be damned if these are not expensive!
And even so, FINE, let them be expensive but what's up with the drop rate in GWEN? I farm several areas and all I get is NON-MAX purples? And same for dungeons, crappy drops even from the chests!
You know if you make something expensive you also create a way (not necessarily easy to find) to earn that much money.
GWEN offers super pricy items but no ways to get them.
Or I should farm for weeks for just ONE craftable item that afterwards I also need to upgrade with prefix and suffix?
Joking, right?
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| 09/02/07 23:44 |
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The Quick One
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The game was just released. Sense its the last for the gw 1 series they might want to see just how many players could afford them. They might realize that no one is getting them except the "I farm all day every day" person and they might lower them.
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| 09/02/07 23:50 |
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I've noticed they've done this with a lot of things. They'll fix it sooner or later by a) lowering the price or b) making the items needed easier to farm
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| 09/03/07 00:01 |
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| QUOTE | | making the items needed easier to farm |
sureeee, thats why ANet created the party scaling update and beat so many "farming" skills to death with the nerf bat, and thats why even if they did make diamonds or whatever easier to farm that means drop in prices which means less profit for people. (i.e making UW/FoW pretty much accessible all the time which means items that dropped there dropped in price as well) also from what i've heard, dwarven axes can be crafted for like 10k? craftable dwarven axes!? thanks ANet for making a really rare item worthless. Is ANet going to make crystallines craftable for 10k too? Yes I bet ANet will change the prices of more expensive items, hah (sarcastic), basically EotN to me, is a half-ass attempt by ANet and giving the rich chaos gauntlets or some other really expensive thing, which once I get EotN I wont dare waste my money on. So all the uber-rich can get chaos gauntlets/whatever to buy for all of their chars and waste their money. To me it's a game to let the rich spend their money, get a little bit poorer, have a harder way to get more money, and make making more a tad harder.
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| 09/03/07 00:21 |
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I wish they were MORE expensive!
Ok, not really but this is the last GW game we get until GW2.
If all endgame GW:EN armor/items were easy to obtain it would leave everyone with nothing to do.
It's the last game, expensive items and titles to grind on until GW2.
You can still play with 1k armor, max blue weapons etc. GW:EN is just giving something back to the truly devoted GW players.
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| 09/03/07 00:51 |
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Mother Nature
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| QUOTE | | You can still play with 1k armor, max blue weapons etc. GW:EN is just giving something back to the truly devoted GW players. |
Yes, giving reskinned armor and reskinned weapons is giving something back to the truly devoted GW players
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| 09/03/07 01:01 |
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I do not think they are too expensive, the point is not that everyone should be walking around with Chaos Gloves that costs 1,5k and 25 Piles of glittering dust. We need items that cost insane amounts of money so we have something to save money for, and feel special when we get them since not many people has them.
And why they made Dwarven Axes craftable I have no idea and dislike the idea
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| 09/03/07 01:01 |
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Hammerite Rozsda
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You are right, it is fine if they are expensive, but there is literally no way to get that rich in a relative amount of time to buy those items!
Because I am sorry, if Anet wants players to farm lot of money and get those items then they should LET us farm. But no, they do not want us to farm, but then how do we get SO much money?
They cancel each other out!
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| 09/03/07 01:10 |
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Hm true it only gets harder and harder to get rich, just hope you get lucky and find an expensive item, or grind 24/7 and youll afford it someday.
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| 09/03/07 01:18 |
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| QUOTE | | Hm true it only gets harder and harder to get rich, just hope you get lucky and find an expensive item, or grind 24/7 and youll afford it someday. |
wont happen to me lol, my luck is one of the worst in the world, never even got a req 8 max gold, never identified a 15^50, the list continues so long only an owl wud have a neck flexible enuf to read it all without having move.
| QUOTE | I do not think they are too expensive, the point is not that everyone should be walking around with Chaos Gloves that costs 1,5k and 25 Piles of glittering dust. We need items that cost insane amounts of money so we have something to save money for, and feel special when we get them since not many people has them.
And why they made Dwarven Axes craftable I have no idea and dislike the idea |
Very true, its basically how GW players still keep a purpose, but keep the game fair. the serious players look better, but their nice looking armor is just as good as the cheap ones. yay for gw ^^
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| 09/03/07 01:30 |
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People; just a reminder. Eye of the North was not meant to be a game where things are easily obtainable; on the contrary; EotN is meant to be a high end game with high end items; FoW armour is the thing closest to what chaos gloves and such are.
All these thigns of which here are said to be too expensive will unlock special things in GW2; so in order to have those unlocks you have to work for it.
Diamonds and onyx gemstones are dropped as dungeon rewards. So why the need to farm them? Just do dungeon crawls to obtain the items. Dungeons also will give you all the money you need. It gives 1,5k as reward. And deungeons are repeatable.
Just remember; endgame special armour pieces; destroyer weapons etc etc are high end items. If they are cheap they wont be special anymore.
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| 09/03/07 02:23 |
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Yea, dang. There's just no places to make money any more. What we really need is for Anet to create a bunch of repeatable quests with decent rewards, that we can do over and over. Yea that'd be nice of them wouldn't it? Oh wait!..
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| 09/03/07 03:44 |
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| QUOTE | ...that GWEN is expensive?
No I don't mean the game itself but the items in the game.
75 ecto and 10k for Gloves?
250 destroyer core for Gloves?
10 diamond, 10 onyx gem, 5k, 250 granite, 100 iron for a Weapon? |
...For everything else there's Mastercard!
But seriously, in the time it took to write that post you could have farmed an ecto. How bored would you be if you could have afforded and bought everything new in the game on your first pass? You'd be here posting that GW:EN was too easy and there was nothing for the 'elite' players!
GW:EN gives us our much needed high end areas & rewards and should encourage us to play more in order to get them.
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| 09/03/07 03:51 |
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Hammerite Rozsda
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You are too optimistic, I doubt ectos drop every 2 minutes, since that's how much it took me to post that ;)
I was not saying everything should be cheap, but ridiculous prices are not a solution either.
You can buy gold online so anyone already wearing such items will be marked as n00b gold buyers. Good? No.
Why not create special, super long, hard quests that rewards such items? Why are there no special quests during the week? Like let's say you can only enter XYZ dungeon on Wednesday. And then next time...who knows...surprise.
This is interactive, exciting, fun.
Farming ectos is boring, repetitive, lame, and kills the game.
Just because something is pricy doesn't make it elite. Look at new Mercedes cars. Expensive? Yes. Respected? Was, back in time, not so much anymore.
I don't know if you get what I mean.
Do you think the Hero title ranks would be so highly respected if you could buy points online? Nope.
Same with these items. When you say that they are elite and only few can get them so they will be acknowledged by other players as hard workers...that is not true.
Go spend 50 bucks online and you get one. Hard worker? I bet...
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Hm expressed myself in a wrong way
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Lets stay away from the topic of online-buying. its illegal and not allowed. Sure some people do it; risking loosing their account and being permanent banned. High price for showing off something you didnt earn for 2 days before the bann.
Anyway; FoW armour is expensive as well. Took me long enough to get one set. Should ectos and shards therefore be rewards for repeatable quests? I dont think so. These new items are something for people, like the people who worked long and hard to get themselves FoW armour, to work for and to get a reward for their dedication/persuit in obtaining those items.
And it isnt hard to get those needed items as well. Guildies of mine have gotten destroyer weapons and chaos gloves within 3 days of the release of GW:EN. And they did not farm much. When they finished GW:EN; they started doing dungeon runs and got what they needed. So is it hard to obtain the things needed? apperently not.
Why is it that high-end items are considered to be easy to be obtained? I gladly work 3 weeks to get my necro a destryer staff. Why? Because when i have it i get the feeling to have achieved something just like i felt when i got my FoW.
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Hammerite Rozsda
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Talking about dungeons, is it just me and I am blessed by Gwen herself that after doing 5 different Dungeons I never got a green or anything worthy? I wasted hours for...a crappy non-max Gold? Yey! It at least increases my Wisdom Title! :/
No but seriously, dungeons in my opinion need to be boosted.
The chest in the end should reward better. At least max damage items please!!!
It feels so bad to try hard and spend an hour in a dungeon and then get one crap gold drop.
I could go and farm that gold much faster.
But then...what's the point of a dungeon?
Because it IS challenging...but where is the reward?
Maybe at least they should increase the drops by one.
Wherever it drops 1, now it drops 2 items.
Wherever it drops 2, now it drops 3 items.
At least a higher chance of getting TWO non-max golds...aye? :/
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| 09/03/07 06:12 |
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I think the higher priced 'status' items should stay exactly the way they are, Glacial gauntlets during the sneak peak cost 35 and where easy to farm, at the time I thought that was a shame as I expected items like that to be harder to get. They increased the amount needed to 100 which then makes those gauntlets harder, more satisfaction when attaining them IMO, I got them at 35 and was kinda 'meh' about it.
My only beef with EotN as far as expence goes is the lockpick situation, Ive stopped buying them, for that kind of cash 99 times out of a 100 it just isn't worth opening the chest.
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| QUOTE | | My only beef with EotN as far as expence goes is the lockpick situation, Ive stopped buying them, for that kind of cash 99 times out of a 100 it just isn't worth opening the chest. |
That's always been a gripe of mine since HM launched. Even with a Treasure Hunter (1) title my chest findings are rubbish and lock picks are worth more to me selling them back to the merch. I do find that the Hulkings I farm drop lock picks fairly often tho so if you want some just spend a few hours farming somewhere in HM.
The items dropped has always been the same in elite areas tho, look at all the white rubbish you get in FoW & UW! It won't change, it's always been that way. Your chance to get something good is proportional to the time you spend in game...play more and your chance of getting something is greater than if you don't play!
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I don't think the prices are that bad but then I'm not worried about how I look to others but what I think looks good, so if I like it I'll farm for it. Besides I've made money faster and easier in Eye of the North than any of the others, as far as just playing through it. In just playing the preview I made 50k and didn't get through all the quests so I didn't get a chance to farm. Plus trust me my luck in game is really poor, plus I don't sell items on Guru or anywhere else except to the merchant. I never got FoW armor not cause I couldn't get it but cause I think they all look terrible. There are some armors in Eye of the North that I like, so I'll work a little to get them (even if so many are hung up on them being re skinned). The same with the items. I never thought dwarven axes where that great looking so that doesn't bother me either. So far I'm loving all of the expansion even more so since some of the changes to HoM. All I can say if you think its too much the quick fix is, just don't buy it whether your meaning in game items or the expansion itself, save your money or gold for what you want or think is worth it.
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| QUOTE | Talking about dungeons, is it just me and I am blessed by Gwen herself that after doing 5 different Dungeons I never got a green or anything worthy? I wasted hours for...a crappy non-max Gold? Yey! It at least increases my Wisdom Title! :/
No but seriously, dungeons in my opinion need to be boosted.
The chest in the end should reward better. At least max damage items please!!!
It feels so bad to try hard and spend an hour in a dungeon and then get one crap gold drop.
I could go and farm that gold much faster.
But then...what's the point of a dungeon?
Because it IS challenging...but where is the reward?
Maybe at least they should increase the drops by one.
Wherever it drops 1, now it drops 2 items.
Wherever it drops 2, now it drops 3 items.
At least a higher chance of getting TWO non-max golds...aye? :/ |
It's all just about luck...in 3 days of GW:EN I got 3 onyx, 5 diamonds, 2 greens from dungeon chests (I only did 5 dungeons then) and 7 golds from random drops (one was an req9 ele sword)...
I doubt they'll change it, as green items should be unique and not drop for everyone on every run through a dungeon.
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What are you guys talking about? Have you played GW:EN? Go do a dungeon, I usually net about 5k in just selling everything. What I do is I idntify the blues and purples and golds and put them in my last bags, then if I run low on room, I start salvaging the white items. This came in handy for armor buying too.
Go do a dungeon and report back here with how much you got in selling your drops plus how many items did you get that you didnt sell to the merch? Diamonds? Onyx?
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I truly dont understand this, what is the big deal. Not to sound too condescending but welcome to life. Life is not fair, you are not entitled to have the best of everything. The people who get the best stuff in real life are those who either work real hard, scam/cheat/steal, are really lucky, or inherit it. Much the same in GW. Some items are simply created to stand out, to be something not everyone has. Kind of shows the devotion to the game. Just because you see something in the game doesnt mean you should be able to get it with little effort. FoW, Torment Weapons, chaos gloves these are things that require effort and dedication to get. I like the fact that these are in the game.
I remember when I finally got my FoW armor, took me like 13 months of saving and farming to do it but I got it and I was like Wow finally. Not to say it can't be done faster but I am just a casual player- couple hours here couple hours there. So the prices don't need to drop and the items don't need to become more farmable they are just fine the way they are. Just a note I got all my ectos when they were sitting around 8-9K too so I payed for almost 2 sets of FoW at today's market prices :(.
Sorry about the rant but I quickly become annoyed at all the this is too expensive, its not fair I want that type posts. If you really want it work for it. You will get it eventually, maybe 13 months down the road but eventually
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| 09/04/07 10:39 |
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^^ amen!
... or alternatively you can be like me and just not expect stuff. if you think about how much you want stuff so bad it seems to take forever to get it. if you just play the game and pick up things as you go you'll soon realize how much money you can come across. you'll only be dissapointed if you hope for a green drop everytime you take on a boss.
i think for the first solid year i played the game i completed all 3 campaignes and got... 2 greens maybe? if that! the only one i remeber was the woe spreader i think. i'm sure there must have been at least 1 more... i'm trailing off topic here, so i shall end with the word... pocket!
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| QUOTE | | I truly dont understand this, what is the big deal. Not to sound too condescending but welcome to life. Life is not fair, you are not entitled to have the best of everything. The people who get the best stuff in real life are those who either work real hard, scam/cheat/steal, are really lucky, or inherit it. Much the same in GW. Some items are simply created to stand out, to be something not everyone has. Kind of shows the devotion to the game. Just because you see something in the game doesnt mean you should be able to get it with little effort. FoW, Torment Weapons, chaos gloves these are things that require effort and dedication to get. I like the fact that these are in the game. |
All I can say is:
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