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In a straight on battle, no secondary no MM help, which pet set is going to best stand up against a force of bots? Other then bots vs bots
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| 09/17/07 14:06 |
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Well, I'd say ninjas or mercs. Ninjas could close the distance fairly quickly and have a little defense boost so it may come down to how many times the bots miss them, and the oni's effect as far as whether the bots are clustered or not. Course, with proper slotting, the defense of ninjas would get annhiliated. Slotting will always make the difference. Mercs work well at range and have a nice tactical array, but tend to perform best when helped by the mm so i'd say neither would beat them, but likely ninjas would survive longer. Zombies are a bit slow and I think would be shredded before making range. Don't have a lot of exp. with thugs, I know the bruiser would do well, but the rest would have a very tough time. So in my opinion, ninjas. Largely due to the awesomeness of the Jounin, my fav. henchies there.
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| 09/17/07 17:45 |
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Yeah I just got my jounin on my ninjas person last night, hes awesome. At level 12 hes allready got around 8 attacks for his sword, +Caltrops and a Poison dart. The Genin are very trigger happy and will run in happily to chuck norris the people. (Also ninjas have the +running speed which sends them into combat really fast)
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| 09/17/07 18:38 |
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Jeez hell.
It's like you're trying to get me to post or something.
Anyways. Ninjas ftw. I would go into more detail, but I've kinda beaten that one so hard I don't think anyone gives a hoot anymore.
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Bots rule! Nuff said. They have the best ranged attacks, hands down, the Mid level Bots provide Bubbles (double bubble ftw!) and they also Heal their wounded comrades....and they aren't that slouchy in melee either (by the time someone got that close, they'd be dwindled down to little to no hitpoints anyways...).
But, the Thugs set would be interesting though. They have a nice ranged attack, they have Arsonist which we all know what fire does to all of the Henchmen...plus their mid-levels give a Leadership Bonus to Acc and Dam...and the Bruiser would make it to melee range with at least half of his hitpoints intact. That would make a very interesting battle to say the least.
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| 09/17/07 21:09 |
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Thugs! FTW!
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| 09/17/07 22:32 |
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Yeha thugs and soldiers would be a good fight also.
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| 09/17/07 23:28 |
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I'ld preferably like to see bots v bots, but ild love to see thugs or mercs too
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| 09/18/07 11:13 |
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Properly slotted Thugs would own Mercs, because the Mercs would never be on their feet long enough to pull the trigger.
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| 09/18/07 13:36 |
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| QUOTE | Bots rule! Nuff said. They have the best ranged attacks, hands down, the Mid level Bots provide Bubbles (double bubble ftw!) and they also Heal their wounded comrades....and they aren't that slouchy in melee either (by the time someone got that close, they'd be dwindled down to little to no hitpoints anyways...).
But, the Thugs set would be interesting though. They have a nice ranged attack, they have Arsonist which we all know what fire does to all of the Henchmen...plus their mid-levels give a Leadership Bonus to Acc and Dam...and the Bruiser would make it to melee range with at least half of his hitpoints intact. That would make a very interesting battle to say the least. |
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Alot of ninja support so far, but i just duno if they'd cut it, someone mention zombies getting mown down, i duno cause i mean they do have the highest defence of all henchmen, and they can take more damage then most (having seen through my own experiance)
It is an iteresting topic, how do you take down that that is "best"
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| 09/18/07 16:59 |
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| QUOTE | | It is an iteresting topic, how do you take down that that is "best" |
Whoever is the better MM, and slotted better.
if you want to take it even deeper, count secondaries.
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| QUOTE | | It is an iteresting topic, how do you take down that that is "best" |
Very carefully and very quickly....that is the way of the Bots!
Something else you have to put into the mix as well, Bots are the best behaved Henchmen (if you've played a lot of them, you'd know what i'm talking about). So, that will also have to play a factor in this equation as well. Zombies are the Kings of BANZI!!! So, defense or not, they are easy targets to gang up on...
The rest, well...they all burn pretty easily and the Big Bot has the heat to do it...he'll even melt down the Aronist at his own game.
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Unenhanced by secondaries from the MM; I'd still go with Bots. Can you say Knockback? Shoot. Even not slotting for KB, I send stuff flying off the map. Yeah, I get no love from Brutes.
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| 09/19/07 17:03 |
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28 bot mm on triumph if any1 cares
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| QUOTE | | 28 bot mm on triumph if any1 cares |
ooooohhhhh
i challenge you to a d-d-d-d-d-d-duelllllllllllll
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ok... nice impression btw, even though i find it slightly umm disturbing?
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| 09/20/07 01:46 |
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ninjas all the way. they have (by far) the highest burst damage of all pets.
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| QUOTE | | ok... nice impression btw, even though i find it slightly umm disturbing? |
what can i say? i've only seen the show once or twice, and never played the card game.
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| 09/20/07 09:16 |
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bots ftw!!!
they get the 2 force fields from protectors, heals from protectors, seeker drones from protectors, and the assult bot will melt down anything with his big flamethrower and rockets. the battle drones will do good at keeping the enemies knocked back all the tame on top of that. the bots would win hands down.
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what aurrius says is true but ninja are melee waht happens when bots are knocking them back so they can get to melee range? lol
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| 09/20/07 19:31 |
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| QUOTE | | what aurrius says is true but ninja are melee waht happens when bots are knocking them back so they can get to melee range? lol |
They won't get knocked back because the bots won't use their lasers in melee range. Simple as that.
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| 09/21/07 09:33 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | what aurrius says is true but ninja are melee waht happens when bots are knocking them back so they can get to melee range? lol |
they won't get knocked back because the bots won't use their lasers in melee range. simple as that. |
and then the bots will get knocked back, up, down, and side to side. because that's just how ninjas roll.
oh, and 50 ninja/dm on freedom, you know, if anyone cares. . .
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future stealth edit: ninjas are two times as fast (and by two times i mean 15-20%) as any other pet. plus the jounin can hide so the bots are going to have a bit of trouble keeping them away if they decide to rush in.
and why the hell do my capital letter become lowercase. it's like the entire text i put in is getting hit by some kind of lowercase method or whatever. i don't know how the site is coded, but that might be something worth looking into. stuff like that really gets me irked.
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| 09/21/07 20:05 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | what aurrius says is true but ninja are melee waht happens when bots are knocking them back so they can get to melee range? lol |
they won't get knocked back because the bots won't use their lasers in melee range. simple as that. |
and then the bots will get knocked back, up, down, and side to side. because that's just how ninjas roll.
oh, and 50 ninja/dm on freedom, you know, if anyone cares. . .
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future stealth edit: ninjas are two times as fast (and by two times i mean 15-20%) as any other pet. plus the jounin can hide so the bots are going to have a bit of trouble keeping them away if they decide to rush in.
and why the hell do my capital letter become lowercase. it's like the entire text i put in is getting hit by some kind of lowercase method or whatever. i don't know how the site is coded, but that might be something worth looking into. stuff like that really gets me irked. |
the bots will have too many force fields up. they ninjas will likely miss their first attack and then be un-hidden. then the KB fest begins
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except bots don't knockback at melee range and therefore are stabbed and slapped by sharp metals and red glowy lightsabers that cut up their circuits and makes them asplode.
because asploding is fun.
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| QUOTE | except bots don't knockback at melee range and therefore are stabbed and slapped by sharp metals and red glowy lightsabers that cut up their circuits and makes them asplode.
because asploding is fun. |
as we both said before. some people just don't read, do they?
[quote]and why the hell do my capital letter become lowercase. it's like the entire text i put in is getting hit by some kind of lowercase method or whatever. i don't know how the site is coded, but that might be something worth looking into. stuff like that really gets me irked.[/quote
argh, seconded!
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why all the discussion? stuff like this is thankfully easy to prove one way or another. pick a server, power level a few mm's, and let the duels begin. best of 7 or 9 should be used to make sure that random chance plays as little a factor as possable, or even a higher number of duels if you really want to get more accurate results.
[edit] thirded for the evil lowercase attack hating >_<
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| 09/22/07 02:33 |
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| QUOTE | why all the discussion? stuff like this is thankfully easy to prove one way or another. pick a server, power level a few mm's, and let the duels begin. best of 7 or 9 should be used to make sure that random chance plays as little a factor as possable, or even a higher number of duels if you really want to get more accurate results.
[edit] thirded for the evil lowercase attack hating >_< |
sounds like a good idea. and bots do use the lasers in melee by the way.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | why all the discussion? stuff like this is thankfully easy to prove one way or another. pick a server, power level a few mm's, and let the duels begin. best of 7 or 9 should be used to make sure that random chance plays as little a factor as possable, or even a higher number of duels if you really want to get more accurate results.
[edit] thirded for the evil lowercase attack hating >_< |
sounds like a good idea. and bots do use the lasers in melee by the way. |
screenshot it or i don't believe you. not that my believing or not believing you would have any impact on you or your life whatsoever. if my opinion actually does matters to you so much as to affect you like that then i suggest you seek out professional help. of course if you did seek out professional help you'd just be making the problem worse. that's because you'd be listening to my opinion, taking it to heart, and doing something in direct response to it. now, at this point i would have to suggest you don't seek professional help as by doing so your situation would only get worse. of course, by saying that i've completely screwed you over because no matter what you do, now, you're going to do what i suggested you do. i know. it sucks. sorry.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | why all the discussion? stuff like this is thankfully easy to prove one way or another. pick a server, power level a few mm's, and let the duels begin. best of 7 or 9 should be used to make sure that random chance plays as little a factor as possable, or even a higher number of duels if you really want to get more accurate results.
[edit] thirded for the evil lowercase attack hating >_< |
sounds like a good idea. and bots do use the lasers in melee by the way. |
screenshot it or i don't believe you. not that my believing or not believing you would have any impact on you or your life whatsoever. if my opinion actually does matters to you so much as to affect you like that then i suggest you seek out professional help. of course if you did seek out professional help you'd just be making the problem worse. that's because you'd be listening to my opinion, taking it to heart, and doing something in direct response to it. now, at this point i would have to suggest you don't seek professional help as by doing so your situation would only get worse. of course, by saying that i've completely screwed you over because no matter what you do, now, you're going to do what i suggested you do. i know. it sucks. sorry. |
Lol.
But it's true what Mzzkc says. Bots have melee attacks (a weak little 'squeee' punch) and why use ranged attacks that will probably miss in melee when you already have melee attacks?
I've had a Robotics Mastermind, and I've made quite a few levels with him, but I have never, NEVER seen my bots use their lasers/ranged attacks in melee. NEVER.
Screenshot or I won't believe it.
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