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GW AI Problems 

Is it just me or lately have the hero and henchie AI suffered a major downgrade. I have noticed that heros will continue to follow and attack a group after i have chosen another target. Also, I have seen henchies just stand there and do nothing --healers not rezzing for a good 5 mins. Also, what has happened in GWEN with the suped up enemies. Dam level 15s that can take out an entire party of level 20s in a matter of seconds, not all heros and henchies either. Before i get beat up on this i do realize that GWEN is supposed to be more difficult but super level 15s come on.
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RE: GW AI Problems 

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Is it just me or lately have the hero and henchie AI suffered a major downgrade.  I have noticed that heros will continue to follow and attack a group after i have chosen another target.  Also, I have seen henchies just stand there and do nothing --healers not rezzing for a good 5 mins.  Also, what has happened in GWEN with the suped up enemies.  Dam level 15s that can take out an entire party of level 20s in a matter of seconds, not all heros and henchies either.  Before i get beat up on this i do realize that GWEN is supposed to be more difficult but super level 15s come on.


An update has changed these things. The AL of NPCs always attack Spellcasters first. Nothing to do abouyt it x(




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An update has changed these things. The AL of NPCs always attack Spellcasters first. Nothing to do abouyt it x(


AI you mean:P AL is armor :P

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RE: GW AI Problems 

Yeah, I've noticed this recently, too.
Zhed going tanking seems to have a negative effect on his, and eventually the rest of the parties HP.



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RE: GW AI Problems 

Well, this makes me happy, I just thought that my hero's were be stupid. I'm glad that it's not just me.



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RE: GW AI Problems 

It's Anet's way of making people play in groups again instead of solo.



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RE: GW AI Problems 

heh by turning all the henchies into ejits...



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RE: GW AI Problems 

My impressions too, actually I think insects are smarter than heroes nowadays. Litterally.
I was going for the assassin boss outside Amatz Basin. There's a group of wardens first, with 2 earth eles and a ritualist. I lock Acolyte Jin with Broad Head Arrow on one ele, Zenmai with Beguiling Haze on the other. Both on aggro.
Had Olias as MM on passive as well as 2 monk hench.

Jin charges in, I move foward till Zenmai joins in, and I keep going to stay away from the group and target the rit. In the process, Zenmai stops hitting her target and moving towards me... What the hell? You have an assigned target you keep beating it up till it's dead. End of discussion.

Well anyway heroes start falling the one after the other, the fight took so long the patrolling mantises even managed to join in, by the time, only Jin and I remained. Res sigs down.

I thought "what the hell, the run is screwed, might as well bust those and hope for something valuable to drop". I lead them to the Kurzick NPCs near the shrine, a guard runs in. Nice a diversion I got time to close in and target the Mantis Mender... Like hell, the darn Mantis Hunter changed target and started beating me up... So yeah, heroes are dumber than insects...



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RE: GW AI Problems 

I have also noticed that the difficulty goes up the more real players you have on the team. Thus causing me to solo more.



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RE: GW AI Problems 

the only thing i have problems with is when i flag my hero's/hench away. when i cancel the flag they dont walk to me but just walk in the opposite direction >.<

but yeah, just play in human groups i think :P

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Yeah the ai has gone down hill a bit i noticed too




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RE: GW AI Problems 

i thought i was going insane... yes all the henchies have sufferred severe head trauma



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Zhed going tanking seems to have a negative effect on his


Is he set on "guard mode", coz it doesn't happen to me.

I'm satisfied with my heores, they let me clear dungeons and have fun.



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Zhed going tanking seems to have a negative effect on his


Is he set on "guard mode", coz it doesn't happen to me.

I'm satisfied with my heores, they let me clear dungeons and have fun.


Zhed is a tank inside. Just like Alesia. I have him set to gaurd and he still does it... and he calls me two legs.

I have a special name for him too: nub, go play in traffic.




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Zhed going tanking seems to have a negative effect on his


Is he set on "guard mode", coz it doesn't happen to me.

I'm satisfied with my heores, they let me clear dungeons and have fun.


Zhed is a tank inside. Just like Alesia. I have him set to gaurd and he still does it... and he calls me two legs.

I have a special name for him too: nub, go play in traffic.


LMAO



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RE: GW AI Problems 

what? with last updated heroes atack casters, even if u use the call target thing? i dont think so

but if u dont call a target but u just atack other target, they ill atack this new target? I think henchies yes, dont know about heroes



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RE: GW AI Problems 

the heros and hench story:

lava -> heros love some warmth
posiontraps -> oooo..... wha's tha?
target calling -> pff; im teh uber pwner and dont need teh target
attacking -> i see i red dot on my minimap! the monk is on the other side *rushes through 20 mobs*
rezzing (especially dunkoro) -> oh noes he/she died! *cry sob; rezzes; forgets the other 6*

the AI has been reset to the release of nightfall it seems.
Hence my new deion for heros and hench AI -> AS. Artificial Stupidity

EDIT:
almost forgot! It seems that in between nightfall and EotN the hench and heros have been on a bonding holiday. They always seem to do a grouphug at the moment searing flames (nice and warm) savanah heat or firestorms are cast on them.



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the AI has been reset to the release of nightfall it seems.
Hence my new deion for heros and hench AI -> AS. Artificial Stupidity


LOL, even a five year older is smarter then those hero's (and henchies)..
The only thing they do is die
Perhaps increasing the AI of the hench + hero's again, cuz this is frustating.



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the heros and hench story:

lava -> heros love some warmth
posiontraps -> oooo..... wha's tha?
target calling -> pff; im teh uber pwner and dont need teh target
attacking -> i see i red dot on my minimap! the monk is on the other side *rushes through 20 mobs*
rezzing (especially dunkoro) -> oh noes he/she died! *cry sob; rezzes; forgets the other 6*

the AI has been reset to the release of nightfall it seems.
Hence my new deion for heros and hench AI -> AS. Artificial Stupidity


LMAO Keo ;P

But I know that A-net want us to play in groups, but some queste, you wan to do alone! so it's shame the have been made so stupid -.-




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LMAO Keo ;P

I'm not Keo :S




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I'm not Keo :S


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LMAO Keo ;P

I'm not Keo :S


ur avatar makes u look like Keo at a quick glance =P



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RE: GW AI Problems 

My favorite is with Olias. Seems he thinks he can take on uber mobs on his own nowadays. They won't even be selected...yet there he goes...



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My favorite is with Olias.  Seems he thinks he can take on uber mobs on his own nowadays.  They won't even be selected...yet there he goes...

"Nowadays"? Well I've never seen him do anything smart ever, unless he's on Avoid combat.
The only time I set him on something else than simply raising minions (and then again, I don't bother with stuff like Death Nova on him) is when I go with a MM of mine in an areas where corpses are scarce...
Otherwise heavy life stealing works ok with him, make sure you have a teleport spell (Necrotic Traversal, Consume Corpse) and something like Ravenous Gaze.




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RE: GW AI Problems 

If they wanted us to do missions together would it not be easier to have mission or a mission line where you could not add heros/hench to the group? Or make the drop rate better for groups with more players in it, than change the AI or the NPC teammates to something a kin to a dirt clod. My most hates NPC is Razah in Rit Bommer mode, the battle is half over before he gets his group in to the fray.

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LMAO Keo ;P

I'm not Keo :S


ur avatar makes u look like Keo at a quick glance =P


Jup, that is my problem ;P, I just glanced ^^
But sory my bad




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the heros and hench story:

lava -> heros love some warmth
posiontraps -> oooo..... wha's tha?
target calling -> pff; im teh uber pwner and dont need teh target
attacking -> i see i red dot on my minimap! the monk is on the other side *rushes through 20 mobs*
rezzing (especially dunkoro) -> oh noes he/she died! *cry sob; rezzes; forgets the other 6*

the AI has been reset to the release of nightfall it seems.
Hence my new deion for heros and hench AI -> AS. Artificial Stupidity

EDIT:
almost forgot! It seems that in between nightfall and EotN the hench and heros have been on a bonding holiday. They always seem to do a grouphug at the moment searing flames (nice and warm) savanah heat or firestorms are cast on them.



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