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The most balanced proffession? 

Which profession do you think is the most balanced one (in PvP), and why is that?

Are, say the Elementalists balanced or too dull?
Is being able to spike down a target singelhandedly (Assassins) ever 20 second overpowered, or just part of the game?
Will Paragons ever be fixed?


And etc. Please discuss ^_^
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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

imo there's not one overballanced profession,
you just need the right skillbar and some experience and you would be amazed from what you could pull off
(not speaking out of own experiences though lol but that's what should happen xd)



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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which profession do you think is the most balanced one (in pvp), and why is that? 

are, say the elementalists balanced or too dull?
is being able to spike down a target singelhandedly (assassins) ever 20 second overpowered, or just part of the game?
will paragons ever be fixed?


and etc. please discuss ^_^


elementalists, thier too, i would say dull
-dull because for an ele, it mostly aoe and if a player is stupid enough to just stand there in a firestorm and get dmged every second, thats just wow, other then that u can leave an aoe attack of where he targeted you the first time.

assassins, are called, assassins for a reason.
and i dont think its overpowered, just the spike of 1 target
-if sumone has aegis or guardian or a stance that u can block attacks, the spike for an assassin wont work as well
-so its your fault u got spiked and no stance to help you
-or you can use blinds on them, it is pvp

paragons...
heres my answer to "will it ever be fixed"
fix what? paragons are a "support" not to spike
but please explain yourself better, fix what?



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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paragons...
heres my answer to "will it ever be fixed"
fix what? paragons are a "support" not to spike
but please explain yourself better, fix what?


Hehe apperantly you didnt play HA alot :p.
Paragon was imbalanced, dunno if its still that way tho.



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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imo there's not one overballanced profession, 
you just need the right skillbar and some experience and you would be amazed from what you could pull off 
(not speaking out of own experiences though lol but that's what should happen xd)


There are some professions that obviously are simply designed for PvP. Mesmers anyone? Contra, Elementalists. They have been designed with different ideas in their mind, and with different outcome. My question (in general), is if are some to overtly superiour? Or too overtly fragile/bad?



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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paragons...
heres my answer to "will it ever be fixed"
fix what? paragons are a "support" not to spike
but please explain yourself better, fix what?


Hehe apperantly you didnt play HA alot :p.
Paragon was imbalanced, dunno if its still that way tho.


i never oartied with a paragon
never tried a paragon, and never made 1
for some reason i just, dont likem =P
imo all they do is use shouts
right? and never really herd anything
about paragons, so what was the problem?



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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paragons...
heres my answer to "will it ever be fixed"
fix what? paragons are a "support" not to spike
but please explain yourself better, fix what?


hehe apperantly you didnt play ha alot :p.
paragon was imbalanced, dunno if its still that way tho.


i never oartied with a paragon
never tried a paragon, and never made 1
for some reason i just, dont likem =p
imo all they do is use shouts
right? and never really herd anything
about paragons, so what was the problem?


the nerfed paragons so much its not funny. "incoming!" used to be like 11 seconds, now a-net has made the cap 3 seconds.

+ other skills have been tied to the ground and curb stomped (not going to start on those)




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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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paragons...
heres my answer to "will it ever be fixed"
fix what? paragons are a "support" not to spike
but please explain yourself better, fix what?


hehe apperantly you didnt play ha alot :p.
paragon was imbalanced, dunno if its still that way tho.


i never oartied with a paragon
never tried a paragon, and never made 1
for some reason i just, dont likem =p
imo all they do is use shouts
right? and never really herd anything
about paragons, so what was the problem?


the nerfed paragons so much its not funny. "incoming!" used to be like 11 seconds, now a-net has made the cap 3 seconds.

+ other skills have been tied to the ground and curb stomped (not going to start on those)


so i guess they fixed it? =d
thanks for tellin + cred



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re: the most balanced proffession? 

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imo there's not one overballanced profession,     
you just need the right skillbar and some experience and you would be amazed from what you could pull off     
(not speaking out of own experiences though lol but that's what should happen xd)


there are some professions that obviously are simply designed for pvp. mesmers anyone? contra, elementalists. they have been designed with different ideas in their mind, and with different outcome. my question (in general), is if are some to overtly superiour? or too overtly fragile/bad?


mesmer is an ok class for pvp i guess but there are a lot of pve mesmers, some mesmers i know h & h everything =)

edit: a few days ago i read that some people couldn't type in caps.. guess it's solved? (weird, after editing i don't have caps anymore >.<



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

uh?



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

warrior.



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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Are, say the Elementalists balanced or too dull?
Is being able to spike down a target singelhandedly (Assassins) ever 20 second overpowered, or just part of the game?
Will Paragons ever be fixed?


Well, every proffession has his ups and downs in PvP...

F.e.:
Assasins can spike (solo) every 20 seconds but not more then one target. And in between those spikes are not much of use with damage 7-17.

Paragons are great support: they can Heal, Protect and Counter-Spike most things. But they aren't as heavily limitted to this as Monks, who will have a harder time smitting then they will have at Healing/Protecting and vice versa...

Rangers usually have great pressure builds with BA or pressing of all-round conditions. But on the other hands have greater problem killing on their own.

and so on ...



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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so i guess they fixed it? =d


nope. just nerfed it more.




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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

from a gvg perspective i would say mes ranger and war are the most balanced they all take a very large amount of skill to play properly in nearly any build and will in no way completely overpower someone with out the right amount of skill. all the other proffesions have slight problems but for the most part are balanced in exception of dervs and paras. dervs with avatar of meldandru and wearying strike are just dumb and paragons have a balance of offense and defense that allows them to help contribute to the defense ball builds while still not giving up a huge amount of your own offense. on top of that they have essentially unlimited energy and take little skill to play.



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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f.e.:
assasins can spike (solo) every 20 seconds but not more then one target. and in between those spikes are not much of use with damage 7-17.


i took on 5 luxons (2 ranger npc's, and 3 real life players) in ab once with my assassin, took them all down ;)
(and yes, i solo'd them and killed them all muwhahahaha)
okay, gotta admit, they weren't pro ;)




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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

my friend is a mesmer and with the enough practice, mesmers are the most overpowered. if you have good enough reactions then you can interrupt and infuse or other 1/4 cast times. even power block lod. but to the question, i'd have to say the most balanced is the ele. there aren't many professions that can be runners, spikers, pressures, utility healers/blinders(some monks skills, b-flash, wards) and be good at it.




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my friend is a mesmer and with the enough practice, mesmers are the most overpowered. if you have good enough reactions then you can interrupt and infuse or other 1/4 cast times. even power block lod. but to the question, i'd have to say the most balanced is the ele. there aren't many professions that can be runners, spikers, pressures, utility healers/blinders(some monks skills, b-flash, wards) and be good at it.


biggest load of crap ive heard with ping and human reactions theres no way you can twitch an infuse and lod is 1 sec cast so its not like you really need practice to get that. they arent over powered either. there most powerful aspect is shutdown which is only really useful in the hands of a skillful player making it not as much overpowered but a class that promotes skillful play (in pvp).



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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imo there's not one overballanced profession,  
you just need the right skillbar and some experience and you would be amazed from what you could pull off  
(not speaking out of own experiences though lol but that's what should happen xd)


There are some professions that obviously are simply designed for PvP. Mesmers anyone?
You obviously havent seen a good mesmer in pve...there is an officer in my guild who is great at it.





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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

hm there is no " balanced," profession like others have said you just need the rihgt build and everything just seems to click. now when you are refering the paragon profession needing to be fixed i beg to differ paragons are great granite they nerfed "incoming!" becuase 11 secs of only half damage done is a little bit to much. i have a paragon and i have a great time they are for support but they also can do alot of damage. they are no better or worse than any other profession. people don't like them becuase they can't handle them. nobody take that as an offense to their skill level becuase there was no offense intended.




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my friend is a mesmer and with the enough practice, mesmers are the most overpowered. if you have good enough reactions then you can interrupt and infuse or other 1/4 cast times. even power block lod. but to the question, i'd have to say the most balanced is the ele. there aren't many professions that can be runners, spikers, pressures, utility healers/blinders(some monks skills, b-flash, wards) and be good at it.


biggest load of crap ive heard with ping and human reactions theres no way you can twitch an infuse and lod is 1 sec cast so its not like you really need practice to get that. they arent over powered either. there most powerful aspect is shutdown which is only really useful in the hands of a skillful player making it not as much overpowered but a class that promotes skillful play (in pvp).


you dont sound like you know anything you are talking about.
and have you ever met his friend? and if you havent, how can you call it a load of crap?



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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if you have good enough reactions then you can interrupt and infuse or other 1/4 cast times.


would your friend happen to be god? how the hell can you catch something that has maybe a .00001 casting time difference?

mesmers = not overpowered, annoying, but not over powered. i could list many underpowered [caps]elites[/caps] in mesmer and name maybe 2-4 pretty good mesmer elites.




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my friend is a mesmer and with the enough practice, mesmers are the most overpowered. if you have good enough reactions then you can interrupt and infuse or other 1/4 cast times. even power block lod. but to the question, i'd have to say the most balanced is the ele. there aren't many professions that can be runners, spikers, pressures, utility healers/blinders(some monks skills, b-flash, wards) and be good at it.


biggest load of crap ive heard with ping and human reactions theres no way you can twitch an infuse and lod is 1 sec cast so its not like you really need practice to get that. they arent over powered either. there most powerful aspect is shutdown which is only really useful in the hands of a skillful player making it not as much overpowered but a class that promotes skillful play (in pvp).


you dont sound like you know anything you are talking about.
and have you ever met his friend? and if you havent, how can you call it a load of crap?


please point out the flaws in my statement that would show me not knowing what im talking about until then your an idiot who bases his arguments on nothing. 1/4 casts on reaction are virtually impossible with a base of 1/4 casting minimum on any interrupt and up to a realliable 209% cast decrease the cast is around 1/8 of a second with ping (most likely 25-150 at a good moment) you have under 1/8 second to identify the spell, and press the key of your interupt. Basiccally impossible for a human



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

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imo there's not one overballanced profession,   
you just need the right skillbar and some experience and you would be amazed from what you could pull off   
(not speaking out of own experiences though lol but that's what should happen xd)


there are some professions that obviously are simply designed for pvp. mesmers anyone?
you obviously havent seen a good mesmer in pve...there is an officer in my guild who is great at it.


this is a pvp discussion, but if we are to talk about pve as well, mesmers are horrible compared to most professions. just for clearing that up.



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

since not many in amp use mesmer

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you obviously havent seen a good mesmer in pve...there is an officer in my guild who is great at it.


i am honored if directed at me if not i gotta get to work :p

now...

as far as mesmer go i admit sometime interupting low cast spell is somewhat tricky, for me i look in cast pattern works sometime sometime not, but in any regards they areoften dead before they need cast again

as for other statement about "friends" and stuff, i can garantee you that one who knows mesmers can and will shut down anything out there regardless of casting time and what not

i know i can do a fairly decent job eventhough i play stricly illusion and not domination magic... so if one knows domination well there is no stopping them

and yes you can quote me on that

but no i will not go domination cause to me it leaves a bad taste :p



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mesmers are horrible compared to most professions. just for clearing that up.


ohhhhhhhhhhhhh wyatt am gonna get you for that :p



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

wow i love my mesmer and my ranger but..one is lvl 3 and the other is lvl 5 i just can never get them past lvl 10 i dont know why but its just like that and i dont play pvp so i dont know any good mesmer skills or ranger skills. in my oppinion every class has its ups and downs (like someone posted in an above comment) but that can be changed by experience and skills thats just what i think and i think im a gr8 so i might be wrong...anyways all profs ftl




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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

necro is pretty balanced, used in both pvp and pve, but yes i would say the ele is the most balanced proffesion, you can run fast(faster then most rpofs, 33%), you can really spike hard(lightning hammer spike anyone? :p) and can do loads of pressure aoe(earth and fire aoe, water pressure) so my call is for ele! but i dont say ele is the best char for pvp :p my fav char is mesmer/necro or a sin/rit




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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

in pvp -- its hard 2 say a profession is imba, mostly just builds



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RE: The most balanced proffession? 

Paragons are great, but fr from overpowered. In fact, they are the least balanced profession because of all the nerfs they have taken due to HA chaining skills. "Incoming!" is one example, what the hell is that skill now? Angelic bond phails and the spear elites are poor. I love my paragon, but using them is much harder and most people are running the same sort of build on them. Even the paragon PvE skills got nerfed, "There's nothing to fear!" can only be kept up half the tme at 12 leadership.

The most balanced profession I would say is the warrior, along with the ranger, which are both very good professions but are not imbalanced at all.



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re: the most balanced proffession? 

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are, say the elementalists balanced or too dull?
is being able to spike down a target singelhandedly (assassins) ever 20 second overpowered, or just part of the game?
will paragons ever be fixed?


well, every proffession has his ups and downs in pvp...

f.e.:
assasins can spike (solo) every 20 seconds but not more then one target. and in between those spikes are not much of use with damage 7-17.

paragons are great support: they can heal, protect and counter-spike most things. but they aren't as heavily limitted to this as monks, who will have a harder time smitting then they will have at healing/protecting and vice versa...

rangers usually have great pressure builds with ba or pressing of all-round conditions. but on the other hands have greater problem killing on their own.

and so on ...


look he used caps! wewt it must have been fixed. :d

edit: ok i cant use caps ><



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