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dishonor points affect game types that have randomly formed teams such as random arenas, alliance battles, and competitive missions.
an account may be given dishonor points for leaving a pvp match prematurely, for leeching experience or faction, or for falsely reporting teammates for leeching.
players who leave a pvp match prematurely will receive 5 dishonor points.
if a player is reported for leeching, that player will receive 2 dishonor points for each report against him. players who report a team member for leeching without a third of their team also reporting that player will also receive 2 dishonor points.
any account that has accumulated 10 or more dishonor points is given the dishonorable status, which is displayed as a buff icon on screen. while affected by this status, no characters present on that account may enter any pvp missions.
the dishonorable status remains in effect for 1 minute for each accumulated dishonor point. this status cannot be removed by logging out or changing characters.
when the duration of the dishonorable status has expired, characters on that account may once again join pvp missions.
dishonor points will remain on the player's account for a total of 60 minutes. if further dishonor points are acquired during this period, that account is once again given the dishonorable status, though for a longer period of time.
to clear dishonor points from an account, a player must go 60 minutes without accumulating any new dishonor points. |
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This was posted some days ago when that update came ^^.
And for some strange reason the picture isnt working atm
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| QUOTE | this was posted some days ago when that update came ^^.
and for some strange reason the picture isnt working atm |
yeah i just up with more depth to it.
as for the image it just wont work no matter how hard i try lol
Try clickin the link that works for some reason
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i fixed the image. you can't use "dynamic" urls to embed images. it has to be an exact url. :)
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this dishonour thing is a bad idea in my opinion,
i played the day the update came and had a team in RA of 2 sins and a warrior, and i was an ele. we all managed to die apart from 1 sin who just kept on running, so i quit the match. got myself 5 dishonour points.
same thing happened again nect match. now if i quit this time, i get 10 mins where i cant play. or i can sit and watch the runner for another 7 mins. now who exactly is that benefiting there? i sat there in the end for 7 mins watching the sin just run around.
this wasnt the last of it though. it has happened a few times now. so personally i think the new points system isnt too bad as you have a better chance of getting a point without a monk. but the dishonour part is crappy.
i guess i'll just have to wait and see if there are any tweaks or changes
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| QUOTE | this dishonour thing is a bad idea in my opinion,
i played the day the update came and had a team in RA of 2 sins and a warrior, and i was an ele. we all managed to die apart from 1 sin who just kept on running, so i quit the match. got myself 5 dishonour points.
same thing happened again nect match. now if i quit this time, i get 10 mins where i cant play. or i can sit and watch the runner for another 7 mins. now who exactly is that benefiting there? i sat there in the end for 7 mins watching the sin just run around.
this wasnt the last of it though. it has happened a few times now. so personally i think the new points system isnt too bad as you have a better chance of getting a point without a monk. but the dishonour part is crappy.
i guess i'll just have to wait and see if there are any tweaks or changes |
Yeh lol... I played RA recently, we all died and i left 7 sec before we "resigned". Just to get this shit. it is as bad as the new favour system which in my opinion ruin´s both the reason i would do HA and who the heck bothers getting new titels when favour runs out. The only good with it is that now you can go to american and such,
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| QUOTE | | i fixed the image. you can't use "dynamic" urls to embed images. it has to be an exact url. :) |
Ohh i see. cheers kanna
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | this dishonour thing is a bad idea in my opinion,
i played the day the update came and had a team in ra of 2 sins and a warrior, and i was an ele. we all managed to die apart from 1 sin who just kept on running, so i quit the match. got myself 5 dishonour points.
same thing happened again nect match. now if i quit this time, i get 10 mins where i cant play. or i can sit and watch the runner for another 7 mins. now who exactly is that benefiting there? i sat there in the end for 7 mins watching the sin just run around.
this wasnt the last of it though. it has happened a few times now. so personally i think the new points system isnt too bad as you have a better chance of getting a point without a monk. but the dishonour part is crappy.
i guess i'll just have to wait and see if there are any tweaks or changes |
yeh lol... i played ra recently, we all died and i left 7 sec before we "resigned". just to get this shit. it is as bad as the new favour system which in my opinion ruin´s both the reason i would do ha and who the heck bothers getting new titels when favour runs out. the only good with it is that now you can go to american and such, |
that's the price you have to pay, simple as that, people demand, they get, and their still not happy with things, live with it i suppose, if not, you know where f12 on the keyboard is (dont mean to sound angry or anything, its just a fact.)
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Lol what will become of those who accepts everything. ;)
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | this dishonour thing is a bad idea in my opinion,
i played the day the update came and had a team in ra of 2 sins and a warrior, and i was an ele. we all managed to die apart from 1 sin who just kept on running, so i quit the match. got myself 5 dishonour points.
same thing happened again nect match. now if i quit this time, i get 10 mins where i cant play. or i can sit and watch the runner for another 7 mins. now who exactly is that benefiting there? i sat there in the end for 7 mins watching the sin just run around.
this wasnt the last of it though. it has happened a few times now. so personally i think the new points system isnt too bad as you have a better chance of getting a point without a monk. but the dishonour part is crappy.
i guess i'll just have to wait and see if there are any tweaks or changes |
yeh lol... i played ra recently, we all died and i left 7 sec before we "resigned". just to get this shit. it is as bad as the new favour system which in my opinion ruin´s both the reason i would do ha and who the heck bothers getting new titels when favour runs out. the only good with it is that now you can go to american and such, |
that's the price you have to pay, simple as that, people demand, they get, and their still not happy with things, live with it i suppose, if not, you know where f12 on the keyboard is (dont mean to sound angry or anything, its just a fact.) |
haha 'the price you pay'. that is possibly the most rediculous thing i have ever read on this forum. most of the people who play RA regularly arent the ones who complained. it was the more casual player they have tried to aim this update towards.
... i still cant get over what you have just said... 'the price you pay'... you're funny, you're a funny guy
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| 10/01/07 11:22 |
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i havn't actually played pvp since this update but...if you and the runer are the last 2 ppl, then you can report that guy or at least threaten to.
i also think it's a great system, leavers have been irritating me for months in ra *hug a-net*
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| 10/01/07 11:24 |
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no this system stinks in my opinion.
most people that complain about leavers only go ra a few times a week anyways and are way too busy with their monster killing in pve so they like to whine about leavers in their spare time, and eventually try to mess them up by complaining so much that anet has to insert changes...
this dishonor stuff is still very weak, i really do hope that anet are not keeping it how it is...
i did play ra extremly much last days and most teams where like this:
RMo with power shot and orison that decides to bring a lvl 14 pet and try to kill the most high armored player on opposite team
wammo with 4 stances 3 heals 1 attack(just somtimes, ofcourse never a res) that focuses on tanking the whole opposite team to be able to survive as long as the timer is up, then when the time has finally ran out and the wammo dies he will start shouting
hahaha noobs, took 4 of you to beat me, HAHAHA NOOBS I PWN U SUCK (sadly these are the most common)
runners with a build composed by 3-4 running/evade skills 2-4 heals/purges that just run around like a headless chicken shouting try to catch me nubs, i bet u can't reach me... then when he drops he's so embarased that he has to recure to flaming and blaming his team.
many more which i don't have the time to mention right now, my point is... this sytem just practically forces you to play with such noobs and idiots that only simply -----> waste time <----
no, not only for people wanting glad points but also for those goin in RA for only "fun".. because they gotta wait till their team gets pwnd in 10 secs or wait for 15 mins till runner/tanker drops.
also, i've realized that people do not report leechers... i'm always the only one that reports meaning i get punished instead of the person commiting the crime...talk about unfair?
...seriously, this sytem has really got to be changed.
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| 10/01/07 12:08 |
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| QUOTE | no this system stinks in my opinion.
most people that complain about leavers only go ra a few times a week anyways and are way too busy with their monster killing in pve so they like to whine about leavers in their spare time, and eventually try to mess them up by complaining so much that anet has to insert changes...
this dishonor stuff is still very weak, i really do hope that anet are not keeping it how it is...
i did play ra extremly much last days and most teams where like this:
RMo with power shot and orison that decides to bring a lvl 14 pet and try to kill the most high armored player on opposite team
wammo with 4 stances 3 heals 1 attack(just somtimes, ofcourse never a res) that focuses on tanking the whole opposite team to be able to survive as long as the timer is up, then when the time has finally ran out and the wammo dies he will start shouting
hahaha noobs, took 4 of you to beat me, HAHAHA NOOBS I PWN U SUCK (sadly these are the most common)
runners with a build composed by 3-4 running/evade skills 2-4 heals/purges that just run around like a headless chicken shouting try to catch me nubs, i bet u can't reach me... then when he drops he's so embarased that he has to recure to flaming and blaming his team.
many more which i don't have the time to mention right now, my point is... this sytem just practically forces you to play with such noobs and idiots that only simply -----> waste time <----
no, not only for people wanting glad points but also for those goin in RA for only "fun".. because they gotta wait till their team gets pwnd in 10 secs or wait for 15 mins till runner/tanker drops.
also, i've realized that people do not report leechers... i'm always the only one that reports meaning i get punished instead of the person commiting the crime...talk about unfair?
...seriously, this sytem has really got to be changed. |
/AGREE it fixes leavers, fine, but it creates a huge problem bigger than what leavers were( which I dont even consider that much of a problem.)
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| 10/01/07 15:51 |
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indeed, the new system is pretty garbage. if you get a leaver, just leave, simple as that. at least it'll save more time than it is doing now...
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| 10/01/07 16:10 |
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| QUOTE | | ... i still cant get over what you have just said... 'the price you pay'... you're funny, you're a funny guy. |
no problemo, its called a psychiatrist, im sure there's a good one in your area ^^
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| 10/01/07 16:51 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | ... i still cant get over what you have just said... 'the price you pay'... you're funny, you're a funny guy. |
no problemo, its called a psychiatrist, im sure there's a good one in your area ^^ |
now you two are acting like 12 yr olds. an admin should close this thread, beacuse it's just going to turn into the pvpers complaining and the pveers praising it.
...but, while we're at it [flamesuit:on] i happen to disagree with the complaints, and think the system works well, not cuz i prefer pve or am the occasional ra (and "pay" the "price" to deal with runners *cough*bringcrippleimaginedburdensyphonspeed*cough*), but have seen it being used effectively. in ab this weekend we reported several leechers, and for fun i even went to kamadan to report some spammers for gold selling.
[edit] ...and leavers get what they deserve imo [/edit]
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i can see where your coming from shuuga...
...but! if you play ra a lot doing the whole report thing gets tiresome. i dont want to have to spend my time clicking then typing /report over and over again. and i also dont want to base a build on slwoing down runners.
i dont think this discussion is going anywhere at the moment. it could go back and forth for page upon page. so i'm gonna just keep away for now
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| 10/01/07 17:56 |
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| QUOTE | | and i also dont want to base a build on slwoing down runners. |
sorry i left out the "or" on that bring/cough line. i've played enough RA to know to at least bring either a speed buff or crip skill for just this situation. just like res sig, for those pesky dirt nappers on your team. :lol:
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| QUOTE | no this system stinks in my opinion.
most people that complain about leavers only go ra a few times a week anyways and are way too busy with their monster killing in pve so they like to whine about leavers in their spare time, and eventually try to mess them up by complaining so much that anet has to insert changes...
this dishonor stuff is still very weak, i really do hope that anet are not keeping it how it is...
i did play ra extremly much last days and most teams where like this:
rmo with power shot and orison that decides to bring a lvl 14 pet and try to kill the most high armored player on opposite team
wammo with 4 stances 3 heals 1 attack(just somtimes, ofcourse never a res) that focuses on tanking the whole opposite team to be able to survive as long as the timer is up, then when the time has finally ran out and the wammo dies he will start shouting
hahaha noobs, took 4 of you to beat me, hahaha noobs i pwn u suck (sadly these are the most common)
runners with a build composed by 3-4 running/evade skills 2-4 heals/purges that just run around like a headless chicken shouting try to catch me nubs, i bet u can't reach me... then when he drops he's so embarased that he has to recure to flaming and blaming his team.
many more which i don't have the time to mention right now, my point is... this sytem just practically forces you to play with such noobs and idiots that only simply -----> waste time <----
no, not only for people wanting glad points but also for those goin in ra for only "fun".. because they gotta wait till their team gets pwnd in 10 secs or wait for 15 mins till runner/tanker drops.
also, i've realized that people do not report leechers... i'm always the only one that reports meaning i get punished instead of the person commiting the crime...talk about unfair?
...seriously, this sytem has really got to be changed. |
ok i understand this is your opinion but you must understand the meaning of random arenas, they just pull 4 random people of course you are going to get people that try to "tank" or run around for a long time before getting taken down you are not always going to get the perfect team everytime. i know that the running and the "tanking gets annoying after a while but i can not stress the word random you are going to get the perfect people like it or not. one way of lowering those chances are by going to team arenas and getting more organized and not relying on your teamates in ra to be mature. i find this system quiet nice becuase it keeps some people out of the pvp areas and makes life runa little bit easier.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | no this system stinks in my opinion.
most people that complain about leavers only go ra a few times a week anyways and are way too busy with their monster killing in pve so they like to whine about leavers in their spare time, and eventually try to mess them up by complaining so much that anet has to insert changes...
this dishonor stuff is still very weak, i really do hope that anet are not keeping it how it is...
i did play ra extremly much last days and most teams where like this:
rmo with power shot and orison that decides to bring a lvl 14 pet and try to kill the most high armored player on opposite team
wammo with 4 stances 3 heals 1 attack(just somtimes, ofcourse never a res) that focuses on tanking the whole opposite team to be able to survive as long as the timer is up, then when the time has finally ran out and the wammo dies he will start shouting
hahaha noobs, took 4 of you to beat me, hahaha noobs i pwn u suck (sadly these are the most common)
runners with a build composed by 3-4 running/evade skills 2-4 heals/purges that just run around like a headless chicken shouting try to catch me nubs, i bet u can't reach me... then when he drops he's so embarased that he has to recure to flaming and blaming his team.
many more which i don't have the time to mention right now, my point is... this sytem just practically forces you to play with such noobs and idiots that only simply -----> waste time <----
no, not only for people wanting glad points but also for those goin in ra for only "fun".. because they gotta wait till their team gets pwnd in 10 secs or wait for 15 mins till runner/tanker drops.
also, i've realized that people do not report leechers... i'm always the only one that reports meaning i get punished instead of the person commiting the crime...talk about unfair?
...seriously, this sytem has really got to be changed. |
ok i understand this is your opinion but you must understand the meaning of random arenas, they just pull 4 random people of course you are going to get people that try to "tank" or run around for a long time before getting taken down you are not always going to get the perfect team everytime. i know that the running and the "tanking gets annoying after a while but i can not stress the word random you are going to get the perfect people like it or not. one way of lowering those chances are by going to team arenas and getting more organized and not relying on your teamates in ra to be mature. i find this system quiet nice becuase it keeps some people out of the pvp areas and makes life runa little bit easier.
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yeah yeah yeah, just about everyone who says boo leavers brings up that one lousy, weak point for an arguement. random means...well random duh! and team arenas...that's where you get a team. but unless you actually have tried to play in ta, you wouldn't know what it's like. ta is much much much harder than ra. first, you got some top 100 guilds running there. i've seen people from [rawr] and [gank] who are some of the best, not to mention [not] and some others. they all have freakin r5+ glads, r9+ heroes. no fair. they have such unfair builds, it makes the odds of getting a glad point and/or faction in that time 100-1. yeah, you can get a guild group and get maybe 8 matches then get pwned. still not worth it. the time it takes for ta to actually get faction is a lot longer than ra.
i prefer ra, but after this update there's no point. i know this is "random arenas", i know i can read too! but with random arenas comes the random noobs, who go along just to fck up ur team. you get a 55 monk, 55 necro, escape ranger, super 1337 wammo with healing hands or mark of protection, and some other super bs builds. now what are we supposed to do? sit there on our asses waiting for some tard to finally get pwned. if they're gonna ban leavers, then might as well close ra since 3/4 of the players there, hate getting some bs team with stupid people and wait 15 minutes wasting time for some idiot to die. because with this update, little "turtle" noobs popped outta there shell. they see leavers "banned" so now they won't get ridiculed, and poked fun of cuz they don't know how to play. so now the chances of actually getting a team to work, play together and thus be successful like before is just out of the picture. all i'm getting no matter what time of day i play, i always get some random monk who smites, etc.
with that update they should've made a noob arena, so that retards can have fun smiting on a warrior, or running around with an escape ranger. because for the people who actually want to pvp and have fun doing it on a daily basis, ra is chaos and uncontrollable because of the amount of people that pop outta nowhere and fck ur team up. horrible system they've made. they should've just kept it to ab's instead of moving it to ra.
quit gw for good. end of story.
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i think the problem here is everyone is right. you shouldnt have to deal with leavers in ra but you should be able to leave if the battle is lost or being extended by a player that has no intention of actually winning the battle . if that can be programmed into the game then great but if not maybe they should just put a time limit on every match. you could put a time limit on avery fight and in order to speed things up you could make it so that when a player gets killed you lose time off the clock as well as the usual countdown. that way if your team gets down to one last wammo/escape ranger/ earthtank etc... there will already be a lot of time off the clock. you could also make it so that for every time a res is used you put time back on the clock. if that doesn't make players bring a res maybe they should just program an ra rez into everyones skill bar when they enter the arena. hope this helped a bit and of course it's only my opinion.
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I think the points against the people that leave is meant for the ABers and not RA, who the heck would report somebody who left early in RA, when the team has no chance of winning? I know in AB it would piss alot of people off. I think this system has it's ups and downs, it allows to report leechers too in AB, which I think is a huge plus..But that's just me.
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| QUOTE | yeah yeah yeah, just about everyone who says boo leavers brings up that one lousy, weak point for an arguement. random means...well random duh! and team arenas...that's where you get a team. but unless you actually have tried to play in ta, you wouldn't know what it's like. ta is much much much harder than ra. first, you got some top 100 guilds running there. i've seen people from [rawr] and [gank] who are some of the best, not to mention [not] and some others. they all have freakin r5+ glads, r9+ heroes. no fair. they have such unfair builds, it makes the odds of getting a glad point and/or faction in that time 100-1. yeah, you can get a guild group and get maybe 8 matches then get pwned. still not worth it. the time it takes for ta to actually get faction is a lot longer than ra.
i prefer ra, but after this update there's no point. i know this is "random arenas", i know i can read too! but with random arenas comes the random noobs, who go along just to fck up ur team. you get a 55 monk, 55 necro, escape ranger, super 1337 wammo with healing hands or mark of protection, and some other super bs builds. now what are we supposed to do? sit there on our asses waiting for some tard to finally get pwned. if they're gonna ban leavers, then might as well close ra since 3/4 of the players there, hate getting some bs team with stupid people and wait 15 minutes wasting time for some idiot to die. because with this update, little "turtle" noobs popped outta there shell. they see leavers "banned" so now they won't get ridiculed, and poked fun of cuz they don't know how to play. so now the chances of actually getting a team to work, play together and thus be successful like before is just out of the picture. all i'm getting no matter what time of day i play, i always get some random monk who smites, etc.
with that update they should've made a noob arena, so that retards can have fun smiting on a warrior, or running around with an escape ranger. because for the people who actually want to pvp and have fun doing it on a daily basis, ra is chaos and uncontrollable because of the amount of people that pop outta nowhere and fck ur team up. horrible system they've made. they should've just kept it to ab's instead of moving it to ra. |
ok trust me i ahve done ta. i have played every pvp game gw has to offer. i most likey have done more pvp than yourself. just becuase high ranking people are there does not always mean you are going to lose. i have beaten and lost to almost every high ranking guild. ta is not also that much harder, if you have a good team and know what you are doing you will do just fine. now i can understand if you have not had any good expirences with pvp. usually if you lose all the time i would say that it is time for you to try pve.
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what i find funny, more than anything about the dishonor is that people are actually proud of getting it, at times at least.
maybe if anet increased the ban to 12 or 24 hours, or kept track of how many times you got banned and increased the time each instance in a specified time frame it would mean something.
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that was a low blow ganny. some people, like me, are just too damn impatient on ta. we have to first look for a team then we have to organize the team, make sure everyone knows what to do, how/when to do it, and possibly check eachother's builds (for reassurance reasons). there must be synergy within the build or just balancing.
it's annoying to check all of that and then perhaps lose or win a few rounds and then lose. for people like me that feel bound to their friends' guild (which doesn't really expand at all anymore), it's difficult to plan out builds while doing something else. also, i lack teamspeak so it really isn't the best idea for me at the moment (although since they're friends, i could call them up but most of them are pve lovers).
i just want to battle with a well balanced team...not a team that has no chance and thus wasting time. prior to the change, what i did was stay in the game. if the team was quickly getting trounced and had no chance, i'd leave. if they held their own, i stayed. afterall that's what the fight is all about to me: somehthing good and challenging . i dont need the perfect team but i don't want some losers in it as well. if i saw some dumbass with a 55 build on my side, i'd say "hope you have fun" and leave. unlike most leavers, i don't leave if i dont have a healer. i leave when i see for myself (as in during the fight, looking at what skills they use to prep themselves prior, observe their patience, etc.) that they suck.
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| 10/03/07 21:40 |
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Ganymede
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| QUOTE | that was a low blow ganny. some people, like me, are just too damn impatient on ta. we have to first look for a team then we have to organize the team, make sure everyone knows what to do, how/when to do it, and possibly check eachother's builds (for reassurance reasons). there must be synergy within the build or just balancing.
it's annoying to check all of that and then perhaps lose or win a few rounds and then lose. for people like me that feel bound to their friends' guild (which doesn't really expand at all anymore), it's difficult to plan out builds while doing something else. also, i lack teamspeak so it really isn't the best idea for me at the moment (although since they're friends, i could call them up but most of them are pve lovers).
i just want to battle with a well balanced team...not a team that has no chance and thus wasting time. prior to the change, what i did was stay in the game. if the team was quickly getting trounced and had no chance, i'd leave. if they held their own, i stayed. afterall that's what the fight is all about to me: somehthing good and challenging . i dont need the perfect team but i don't want some losers in it as well. if i saw some dumbass with a 55 build on my side, i'd say "hope you have fun" and leave. unlike most leavers, i don't leave if i dont have a healer. i leave when i see for myself (as in during the fight, looking at what skills they use to prep themselves prior, observe their patience, etc.) that they suck. |
hm i do not see how what i said was a low blow. anymway if you want to play with a balanced team you can in ta if you actaully make a team and take the time to organize it you will win a lot more than you will lose, but as you have said you are not that patient have you ever thoght that if you would have taken more time in making your team and not have been imapatient you might have won more?.
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| 10/04/07 15:14 |
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