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So me and my friend were talking about gw2 and we both agreed we wish it wasnt coming out. IF i wanted to play a true environmental mmorpg i would reactivate my wow account, but i dont want that.
I think guildwars is so famous and known because of its key features..Instanced zones, no grinding, no fee, easy lewt system, ect.
A.net is throwing that all away now and making a whole new game...Guildwars2..
-From what im seeing and hearing it looks like another wow...
IN two years A.net pumped out 3 Campaigns, 1 Xpac, 1 Bonus mission pack(coming soon), countless updates(SF, DOA, ect). They enriched pvp(which they can still add more), they added heros, titles, ect. to advance the game..yet they can do soo much more.
-They already perfected the game imo from GW:EN.. i mean 18 multi-level duengons made me extremly happy..And now u can do them on hard mode..heck id pay 50 bucks for that right they.
So they Whole Guild wars trigoly is being "revamped" into this GuildWars 2 thing...yuck..
-Some say "o well u can still play the orngial guildwars"..WRONG...u cant..lets face it, most players will move on to GW2 and force themselves to play it weither its good or bad. As im playing NF i notice ghosttowns, and myself unable to find a group for missions, and resort to heros and henchman, the spreading on the ghosttown is happening already!!!
And does A.net really think they can compete with top selling mmorpgs..ppl who play wow will still play wow, people who still play "hell idont know" City of Heros will still play city of heros. Guildwars2 will pretty much survive off guildwars fans. So i really dont get this Guildwars two thing.,.. i dont feel like trashing my gw1 acc, just to reroll and restart a whole new game...i want my dervish back!!! not a gw2 dervish, MY DERVISH!!
Anyone else thing Guildwars 2 isnt the best move, they should just continue adding campaigns. MORE PVP, new battlegrounds, 2v2,3v3,5v5 areans, say 20v20 zones, even 50v50(why not)(for a pvp game, its sure moving toward a pve direction..... )
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w/e i hope someone else feels the same way i do
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I believe guild wars will not turn out to be another wow. A.net reads a bunch of forums and already these topics of guildwars2 turning to be a WoW will or prob should detour them to not make that. Also I am glad they are making a new game, This time instead of rushing everyone in 6 months they can have 2 whole years to produce another great game.
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I'll step up and say that I do agree with you. My boyfriend plays WoW and he has so much trouble with it either disconnecting or bugs; the list goes on.
When I read that GW2 was going to get rid of private maps my FIRST thought was, "I smell t r o u b l e" (sorry, had to sing a song there).
I didnt like the fact that in WoW, players could steal other players drops an whatnot.
I like having the "privacy" of going out into an explorable area an not having to compete with whoever else is out there.
However, I am eager to see what GW2 will be like. If it does turn out like WoW, oh well, I wont play it.
zat is my 2 cents
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Nah.
Do you really think that a company that made a game as original as GW will make some half-assed crap that is similar to WoW gameplay-wise and balanced-wise.
While I may not agree with A-net on everything, they have some of the best PvP balancing I've seen.
Their races are original,(we got Charr, Sylvari, Asura, Norn and even more) some of the classes are original (come on, we have a class that's practically psychic), the quests and missions are cool and original, and they even described some events in GW2 which sound fun.
In conclusion, the game seems too far away.
Edit: Besides, haven't you ever seen a cool looking structure in the concept arts or even in the game and wished you could climb on top of it, go in it, or even jump off of it? This game is too great.
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| QUOTE | So me and my friend were talking about gw2 and we both agreed we wish it wasnt coming out. IF i wanted to play a true environmental mmorpg i would reactivate my wow account, but i dont want that. I think guildwars is so famous and known because of its key features..Instanced zones, no grinding, no fee, easy lewt system, ect.
A.net is throwing that all away now and making a whole new game...Guildwars2.. |
GW2: Still some instanced area's......no grinding(the leveling will be done in a way that a level 20 can be in a fair fight against a level 100, or however high it goes). Above a certain levels, you wont really get any stronger, just extra "benefits".(at least, thats whats been said so far)
No fee.....still, and no one has no clue how the looting system will work, so dont bother ranting about it.
The thing I like about guild wars, is it requires skill.....in WoW, you have so many skillbars that you can use all your skills whenever you want, in GW2(similar to GW) you will be limited to only a few skills at any given time. That is the main thing that makes GW unique.....yes the instancing and all, which, I like being able to kill without others interrupting. But after playing WoW for a bit, I honestly prefer no loading times in between every small area, being able to run into people outside of towns, etc.
I guess what I'm trying to say, is most of your points are invalid, or we dont know enough about then to say whether they are good or "just generic MMORPG".
That being said, after hearing how GW2 is being designed, higher lvl, thats more of a status symbol than a symbol of power and its still free to play(which you have to find cracked WoW servers to do the same).
Also, dont forget, you will have 1 of 2 options, a "companion" that will follow you around and help you(and not take up a party slot), or no companion and you get a stronger character. Now, just from that alone I can tell its going to be better than WoW....for instance.....in WoW, if your a Fighter, trying to solo, you often dont have too many heals, so you have to stop and eat and such to regain health, in GW2, if your a warrior, you can chose a Monk companion, who will follow you around and heal you. Much more action-time, than sit-around-and-eat-time.
| QUOTE | I'll step up and say that I do agree with you. My boyfriend plays WoW and he has so much trouble with it either disconnecting or bugs; the list goes on. When I read that GW2 was going to get rid of private maps my FIRST thought was, "I smell t r o u b l e" (sorry, had to sing a song there). I didnt like the fact that in WoW, players could steal other players drops an whatnot. I like having the "privacy" of going out into an explorable area an not having to compete with whoever else is out there. However, I am eager to see what GW2 will be like. If it does turn out like WoW, oh well, I wont play it. |
I recently played a game that I rather liked the XP system. Basically, you got XP for attacking a target, and for killing it. Therefore, if someone stuck around to get the final blow on something, they would get less XP than you. And a simple solution to the item-stealing......if you attack a target first, and are attacking it when its killed, YOU get the drops reguardless of who finishes it off.
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You know why Guild Wars 2 can't possibly be a wow clone? Because the people who work on guild Wars aren't the same people who work on Wow. They know what makes Guild Wars a good game and they understand what it's flaws are(for the most part). The basic idea behind guild wars is NOT "You need to put in 50 hours a week to be half decent." It is as close to a "pick up and play" rpg as they come. You can put in 1 hour a day and still get somewhere. So thinking that they will throw away EVERTHING that made this game good and create a wow clone is frankly idiotic. They have some idea of what we want and won't throw something at us that is the exact opposite. You seem to just be jumping to conclusions. Also about bringing your characters to the next game...get over it. It's a NEW game. You can't bring your maxed out Jedi from Kotor to Kotor 2 can you?
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I will guantree you that gw2 will be nothing like wow at all and there will still be guildwars 1, lol 40K people still play D2:LoD and blizz is still supporting that game with no end in sight so i wouldn't worry, i think your are over reacting and just really upset. Look at the current gw...look at how much of a unique game it is....its NOTHING like other mmo's it uses unique instance system, battle system and other features which makes it IMO the greatest mmo ive ever seen, i also like Everquest 2 but i gotta renew that subion and actually pay for a month...i played it for free for the 30 days they give you with the game when you buy the game WHICH COSTED ME 8$ USD..lol
Well thats my word on it all...
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Guild wars manly their selling point is the "No monthly fees". If it wasn't for that I would be playing WoW right now. I think that if they keep the no mounthly fees/one time fee thing they would still get hundreds of thousands of buyers not to mention millions. Some people cannot afford the fees like WoW has so they resort to guild wars, a alternative. Well at least thats why I play (or should say "played") Guild wars. Just my opinion.
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Also I would LOVE Guild Wars 2 if it was like WoW
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Also no monthly fee WoW would be amazing.
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How can you even rant about something that's not even in Alpha yet? Seriously.
From what we know we won't lose any of GW1's key features in GW2, that is, instanced area's, no monthly fees, etc.
As for loot system, I think there will be little to no change in that, as in the loot gets randomly assigned to a player in the party that attacked said foe.
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| QUOTE | | Also no monthly fee WoW would be amazing. |
monthly fees are the only reason i haven't gotten WoW
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| QUOTE | How can you even rant about something that's not even in Alpha yet? Seriously.
From what we know we won't lose any of GW1's key features in GW2, that is, instanced area's, no monthly fees, etc.
As for loot system, I think there will be little to no change in that, as in the loot gets randomly assigned to a player in the party that attacked said foe. |
What are u talking about.
firstly the wow looting system is soo currupted(dont say it isnt, cuz if u play wow u know u can steal any item u want)
..GW2 wont have instanced areas, its an open world....
yes there will be some(but every mmorpg has instanced areas..GW1(the whole game is a instanced area))
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| QUOTE | How can you even rant about something that's not even in Alpha yet? Seriously.
From what we know we won't lose any of GW1's key features in GW2, that is, instanced area's, no monthly fees, etc.
As for loot system, I think there will be little to no change in that, as in the loot gets randomly assigned to a player in the party that attacked said foe. |
What are u talking about.
firstly the wow looting system is soo currupted(dont say it isnt, cuz if u play wow u know u can steal any item u want)
..GW2 wont have instanced areas, its an open world....
yes there will be some(but every mmorpg has instanced areas..GW1(the whole game is a instanced area))
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I think it would be a good idea to keep instances, but make them muchlarger..when i played Eq2 one field instance was many many miles large took a long time to cross on foot, and the scenery was amazing, i love how they can pack a giant world into a game..but like in gw2 have that with a few big giant instances and have it set that you can take 1-20 player party into their own instance or w/e..
Of course that probably wouldnt happen because of server space...
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| QUOTE | | You know why Guild Wars 2 can't possibly be a wow clone? Because the people who work on guild Wars aren't the same people who work on Wow. |
Isn't ArenaNet mainly a composition of employees that used to work at Blizzard?
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | How can you even rant about something that's not even in Alpha yet? Seriously.
From what we know we won't lose any of GW1's key features in GW2, that is, instanced area's, no monthly fees, etc.
As for loot system, I think there will be little to no change in that, as in the loot gets randomly assigned to a player in the party that attacked said foe. |
What are u talking about.
firstly the wow looting system is soo currupted(dont say it isnt, cuz if u play wow u know u can steal any item u want)
..GW2 wont have instanced areas, its an open world....
yes there will be some(but every mmorpg has instanced areas..GW1(the whole game is a instanced area)) |
... The hell you on about? I never mentioned WoW :S I was talking about GW2's (possible) loot system
And what I'm talking about? Well you're basically assuming stuff you haven't laid your eyes on nor played it for that matter.
And it's mentioned somewhere that there will be a persistent world, with instanced stuff in it as well, so that you can either play Mission A in an instanced area or in the persistent world..
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| QUOTE | firstly the wow looting system is soo currupted(dont say it isnt, cuz if u play wow u know u can steal any item u want)
..GW2 wont have instanced areas, its an open world....
yes there will be some(but every mmorpg has instanced areas..GW1(the whole game is a instanced area)) |
orly?
| QUOTE | There will be changes to instancing system used. Persistent areas, similar to those traditionally used in other online multiplayer games, will be introduced to Guild Wars which may allow players to meet and interact while exploring.
Instances will still be used for missions and dungeons. |
Lets look at Prophecies if it used this system. Its basically saying that traveling from ascalon to droks is one large area, that everyone is loaded into at the same time. But, when you go to do something that moves you through the story, such as The Great Northern Wall, you would be in an instance.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2
This will offer so much more than WoW(ok, WoW has swimming but thats it)....such as:
| QUOTE | | Actions which have characters interacting with the environment, such as sliding, climbing trees and swimming will also be introduced. |
Now, if you can climb trees and jump out of it to surprise attack someone as a rogue.....THAT would rock.
PS: If WoW was free to play, I would probably pick it up and play it. I have played it on Private servers, and it was fun for a bit, but the lack of people in the end was always why I had stopped playing it(as well as a few talents here and there not working). My point is, WoW is not worth paying to play it, therefore if it was free, I would gladly play it.....in other words, if GW turns into a free WoW, I will be happy to play it. :)
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| QUOTE | So me and my friend were talking about gw2 and we both agreed we wish it wasnt coming out. IF i wanted to play a true environmental mmorpg i would reactivate my wow account, but i dont want that.
I think guildwars is so famous and known because of its key features..Instanced zones, no grinding, no fee, easy lewt system, ect.
A.net is throwing that all away now and making a whole new game...Guildwars2..
-From what im seeing and hearing it looks like another wow...
IN two years A.net pumped out 3 Campaigns, 1 Xpac, 1 Bonus mission pack(coming soon), countless updates(SF, DOA, ect). They enriched pvp(which they can still add more), they added heros, titles, ect. to advance the game..yet they can do soo much more.
-They already perfected the game imo from GW:EN.. i mean 18 multi-level duengons made me extremly happy..And now u can do them on hard mode..heck id pay 50 bucks for that right they.
So they Whole Guild wars trigoly is being "revamped" into this GuildWars 2 thing...yuck..
-Some say "o well u can still play the orngial guildwars"..WRONG...u cant..lets face it, most players will move on to GW2 and force themselves to play it weither its good or bad. As im playing NF i notice ghosttowns, and myself unable to find a group for missions, and resort to heros and henchman, the spreading on the ghosttown is happening already!!!
And does A.net really think they can compete with top selling mmorpgs..ppl who play wow will still play wow, people who still play "hell idont know" City of Heros will still play city of heros. Guildwars2 will pretty much survive off guildwars fans. So i really dont get this Guildwars two thing.,.. i dont feel like trashing my gw1 acc, just to reroll and restart a whole new game...i want my dervish back!!! not a gw2 dervish, MY DERVISH!!
Anyone else thing Guildwars 2 isnt the best move, they should just continue adding campaigns. MORE PVP, new battlegrounds, 2v2,3v3,5v5 areans, say 20v20 zones, even 50v50(why not)(for a pvp game, its sure moving toward a pve direction..... )
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If I could give you -999,999,999 rating for this post then I would.
Let’s logically go over your post as I want to re it again and again until to see how ridiculous your post sounds.
Obviously you haven’t done your research and read about the upcoming Guild Wars either on the net or bought the mag that PC Gamer put out.
Guild Wars 2 is still going to be the same old Guild Wars with new races, professions etc.
They will have nicer graphics you name it. It will be like when Ever Quest 2 came out.
They will still keep the original GW online, hell you have still play the Original Ever Quest.
Speaking of WOW, all people do is whine about that that game we don’t need it here.
You are stupid if you think they are just doing to make Guild Wars 2 = World of Warcraft.
I really HATE this type of ignorant thinking; the beta is not even out and 6+ months away.
Once people actually get to play the beta then they can speak to this but in the mean time, JUST SHUT UP!!!!
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LMAO, I fixed my post above and for some reason didn't grab the right one at the top. Edit post is a very cool thing ;)
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| QUOTE | | -From what im seeing and hearing it looks like another wow... |
he did say it looked like wow.
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| QUOTE | | LMAO, I fixed my post above and for some reason didn't grab the right one at the top. Edit post is a very cool thing ;) |
...OMG..... sorry lol, you sounded like such an idiot...now i do, i will fix it lol
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Anways...Guildwars 2 isnt out yet we should just all stop ranting and just wait till beta and some possible leaked Screens, like the leaked eotn armor ones... lol. And at the time NOW till the first days of beta i'd expect to see a couple hoaxes too..haha.
Now for my opinion on GW2..i really think it wont be like wow.
With these reasons
1. Guildwars 1 has a smooth very easy to use/see interface
2. Best looking GFX
3. Great storylines
4. Unique playing system
5. Unique instance system
I'd Expect to see those there above to be in gw2 ONLY BETTER!!!!!!
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he did say it looked like wow. |
It was just a mis understanding, the post was screwed up.
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I think that the best thing to do is to wait until Guild Wars 2 comes out before making any good or bad jugements about the game.
Sounds logic no ?
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Hell, Ill probably not even be playing when gw2 comes up. Im hardly playing gw right now, eventually itll come to a stop
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Keep the conversation civil. No need for name calling people.
I'm totally excited to see what Anet comes up with for GW2. Regardless of the type of game it will be, when alpha comes out and we start getting more information about the game mechanics then I'll truly be sold but so far, I'm liking what I hear.
Primary reason being Guild Wars is a success is that its FREE. No need to worry when your subscríption is about due as you could always come back to the game when it suits you. No feeling of further obligation to continue playing so that you squeeze out every bit of content for your months pay.
Everyone also has to remember, the basic model of GW1 is the most likely going to be incorporated into the foundation of GW2. As it was said before, in some article long forgotten, that the current Guild Wars game wasn't capable of expanding into the direction the developers originally intended so then the decision to create a new game came about. With each subsequent feature added to the current game we are catching a glimpse at what GW2 may begin to offer. Who knows...
In regards to the persistent/instanced ratio. If I had to guess, I think they'll simply widen the persistent aspect of the game to encompass a much larger area surrounding a town so as to give players influence in quests and such pertaining to that town. In all honesty, I'd really like to see how they can bring something new or different (if at all) to that aspect of the MMO genre.
As it is still very, very early to make a solid decision on how GW2 will shape out to be, we can all guess as to what the game may offer. We can even argue as to how it compares to another game given the information received so far. That aside we can all agree that Guild Wars is a great game and will be a great experience no matter which chapter/campaign/expansion/sequel carries its name.
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Gah...off topic but the fans inside my imac keep revving..its getting really annoying
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Really though it is absurd to even think anet would cop out like that. They wouldn't just copy/paste wow into their next game. They are going to come out with something amazing and innovative just like the original guild wars.
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| QUOTE | | Gah...off topic but the fans inside my imac keep revving..its getting really annoying |
Off-topic Reply:
Had the same problem for my PC...
Powered it down,
took trouble fans out,
peeled back sticker on fan to expose bearing,
put a couple drops of mechanical oil
Replace sticker and reinstall fan.
Works like a charm and cheaper than getting new ones!
Note: This only works on standard fans. CPU fans are slightly more technical and require more work therefore buying a new CPU fan would be much easier :P
On Topic: GW2 Woot!
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| 10/15/07 20:57 |
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Lord_of_Darkness
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| RE: Guild wars 2 a waste? |
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wow I could have not said it any better that mwpeck I mean u are complaing aobut a game that is not even out yet.
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| 10/15/07 21:17 |
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