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URB4N_S4MUR41
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Hey, try and name some skills that you think are pretty useless, or too strict.
And, if you can, name a couple ways that it could be used (somewhat) effectively.
Here are some skills I think have no purpose and can't be used in a build effectively. C'mon, prove me wrong!
Pious Concentration
CHilling Winds
Stone Sheath*
CHurning Earth
Elemental Flame
Pestilence
Fertile Season
Disrupting Accuracy
Keen Arrow
Called SHot
Brambles
Roaring Winds
I'm sure I can name more, but I'm out of time.
Go for it, I bet you can't find a practical use for them all!
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| 10/16/07 22:11 |
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Dragon Warrioralpha
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Called shot is a great skill if you don't have Quick shot, just takes a bit longer for it to recharge.
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| 10/16/07 22:14 |
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Abbot Ramoth
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imo alot of those skills aren't really that useless
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| 10/16/07 22:15 |
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Incoming takes the cake for the most useless elite skill.
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| 10/16/07 22:16 |
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Abbot Ramoth
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lol saji love ur sig.
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| 10/16/07 22:17 |
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Brambles is actually a great skill to take along for 55'ing your way to maxing Survivor. Take a R/* or */R hero with Brambles and other skills that would help you. And you have an extra 5 dmg every knockdown as well as bleeding while your hero stays out of combat so you still get full XP. :P
PS: I dont have factions so I cant use Brambles.....but a little birdy told me its a great skill for other uses as well. :P
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| 10/16/07 22:19 |
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IMO there is no "useless skill" every skill in the game can be used in conjunction with others to make very powerful builds.
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| 10/16/07 22:35 |
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Pestilence is a great skill if your pvp and and your a ranger condition spike. Just spread the conditions to all the foes so It doesnt take another spike to injure your foes.
Pious Concentration depending if it works without enchantments, this could be a good skill.
Chilling Winds could be good for a water elementalist, but overall its pretty useless.
Stone stealth + Mantra of earth would be a great combo, also this would be affective against critical barragers, or any build relating to Critical hits.
Churning Earth Churning earth looks like a good AoE skill. Its not useless, and its not great.I'd say okay.
Elemental Flame again I don't see much use for, maybe after ending rodgorts could be good. Also you could up a lil fire magic while in water, othe rthan that. Its not all that good.
Fertile Season though spirits effect all creature, I'd say its okay. But since it effects foe too. Its not all that great.
Disrupting Accuracy is great for assassins that use bows, when they up there critical strike, the increase there cahnce of interrupting. Also its good for R/P becasue the combo "Go for the eyes!" is good also.
Keen Arrow again is great for R/P and assassins that use bows, but this time they increase there chance of extra damage.
Called Shot | QUOTE | | Called shot is a great skill if you don't have Quick shot, just takes a bit longer for it to recharge. |
Brambles is great for Hammer support and as mwpeck stated good for 55 monk.
Roaring Winds The only usefulness in this skill is if your up against any shout warriors or paragons, other than that its not very effective.
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| 10/16/07 22:38 |
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For the record, churning earth is awesome in HM because of the speed boosts monsters get.
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| 10/16/07 23:19 |
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URB4N_S4MUR41
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Chrisworld, I undertsand there aren't any completely lifeless skills, but I want to see how u guys can place them into a build, and make them useful =]
Also, if u have any more skills that are less popular, please put them up.
There aren't many elemental hexes, which makes hexes affecting those very innefective.
I did a cross-section and the skills have litlte to no conjunction unless you span mastery over three elements :/
Very difficult.
I rememebr Churning Earth used to cost 25 energy.
Back then it was USELESS :P
It only lasted for 5 seconds, too.
I never even saw noobs use that.
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| 10/16/07 23:23 |
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Rogue
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Every skill does something else. Not every skill does that something else better than another skill does it's something else though. Penetrating Blow vs Executioners, Executioners does more damage, Penetrating Blow lets you penetrate armor. Armor penetration is almost useless though because the + damage you get off of executioners is armor ignoring anyway. Penetrating costs less adren, but does way less damage. Executioners and Penetrating do about the same DPS if it's only that particular skill on your bar, but in the long run executioners will pull ahead in terms of DPS because you use other adren skills. And the less you use up adren by spamming low adren attacks the more overall DPS you'll do when you hit the high damage ones that cost slightly more adren. Also, even more importantly, Executioners is more valuable in a spike.
Is penetrating doing something different than executioners? Yes. Is it better in any situation? Maybe if you're only using one attack skill, but then you're sorta useless anyway. Which is why you prettymuch only see executioners being run in todays meta.
That's just one example, there are plenty of others.
Oh and then there are plenty of skills that are just plain terrible... like "Oytugh(SP)'s Cry" Seriously, why is that even there, there's not very many skills that I would even consider taking over this. It's just epic bad.
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| 10/16/07 23:34 |
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| QUOTE | | IMO there is no "useless skill" every skill in the game can be used in conjunction with others to make very powerful builds. |
god i hate ppl who say that its so untrue
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| 10/17/07 00:30 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | IMO there is no "useless skill" every skill in the game can be used in conjunction with others to make very powerful builds. |
god i hate ppl who say that its so untrue |
That's why I like you Jamie.
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| 10/17/07 00:32 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | IMO there is no "useless skill" every skill in the game can be used in conjunction with others to make very powerful builds. |
god i hate ppl who say that its so untrue |
That's why I like you Jamie. |
ty again for helping with that mission rogue ^^
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| 10/17/07 00:33 |
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I think what chrisworld is trying to do is stay optimistic about GW skills. I also somewhat agree with him , that every skill has its place and its up to you as the player to find out where that is. I would imagine that everyone here agrees that some skills are preferred or easier to work with or more efficient than others but that doesn't mean they have absolutely no purpose. Players also need to remember that some skills are available earlier in the campaigns than others ,therefore they should be considered inferior to skills acquired later in the game. I don't think I use any skills on any lvl 20 character that I received in pre or on shing jea island .Aura of restoration ftl.
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| 10/17/07 03:40 |
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Grasping earth can be deadly in combination with skills like Shockwave.
Fertile Season has only 1 purpose and that is making spiking harder.
The others must have a use somewhere.
Then there are the skills that got nerfed so badly that they hardly have a use, like Swirling Aura.
I never understood why they nerfed it since nobody really used it...
I guess the typical GvG water runner could use the unnerfed version though.
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| 10/17/07 03:51 |
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Protective Bond
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| 10/17/07 05:52 |
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i don't think keen arrow is useless, when u hit someone in the back it hits 100+ easiy. the recharge time is low and the energy cost is low aswell
i agree that some skills are useless but not all of them are.
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| 10/17/07 07:17 |
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shield of deflection & regeneration are pretty much useless now... everyone uses RC now instead of SoD.. pff
incoming...protective bond...dryders defences...greater conflagration...ray of judgement...lyssa's aura...weaken knees...avatar of grenth...
maybe not 100% useless but sure aren't good for anything,blah there are plenty which often makes me think why anet even put these crap skills into the game...they should have realized that there are skills that almost nobody ever even TRIED to use coz they just suck..ewww
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| 10/17/07 07:24 |
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i have never seen a practical use for second wind. it is only really decent once you are at a really low point on energy, and even then, if you have used exhaust skills and are that low on energy it will only worsen in the long run.
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| 10/17/07 08:05 |
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| QUOTE | | incoming...protective bond...dryders defences...greater conflagration...ray of judgement...lyssa's aura...weaken knees...avatar of grenth... |
2 skills in there that do not belong.
Protective Bond - Yes it was nerfed for normal 55'ing. BUT Harrow and I made a build awhile ago(that still works since nothing in the core skills have changed) that uses Protective Bond and is MUCH safer than the normal 55, just slower at killing.
Greater Conflagration - Have you played any high-end area's? This is often coupled with skills like Winter to exploit the opponents weakness. And turning ALL damage into what there weak against. Its usually a staple skill in most end-game/high-end area's.
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| 10/17/07 10:37 |
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I have a friend that can do UW with protective bond. Allows him to tank many more enemies then protective spirits. It is a harder build to run but make the UW runs so much quicker.
as for Churning earth it is a great AoE skill especially if you are running in elite areas with a tank grabbing all the aggro
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| 10/17/07 11:17 |
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IMO there is no "useless skill" every skill in the game can be used in conjunction with others to make very powerful builds.
god i hate ppl who say that its so untrue
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/agree 100%, there are so many useless skilss in this game I could list them for ages lol
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| 10/17/07 11:22 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | IMO there is no "useless skill" every skill in the game can be used in conjunction with others to make very powerful builds. |
god i hate ppl who say that its so untrue |
That's why I like you Jamie. |
ty again for helping with that mission rogue ^^ |
/agree again like have many a times.
Try using amity. Go ahead. I dare you. Try using unyielding aura instead of ANY OTHER RES. If you can use mantis touch in a GOOD build I will personally find you and put a medal around your neck. If you can come up with a reason I should put jagged strike in ANY Assassin build because it is "More effective than other lead attacks" then it has been buffed into somewhat usefulness. Try using extend conditions and say "whew, good thing I took extend conditions." All skills are balanced? Bull.
| QUOTE | Pious Concentration I've Never used it
CHilling Winds I've Never used it
Stone Sheath* I've Never used it
CHurning Earth I HAVE used it, on hero builds in PvE for more AoE damamge
Elemental Flame I've Never used it
Pestilence I've Never used it
Fertile Season I've Never used it
Disrupting Accuracy Theres a new sin build using this, got i think a Good Rating
Keen Arrow I've used it, been totally replaced by sloth hunters though
Called SHot NOT useless
Brambles Completely useless IMO
Roaring Winds I Think this has been used...not by me but
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| 10/17/07 15:51 |
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Peace and Harmony gets my vote for the worst skill ever. Why would they even think of making this an elite?
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| 10/17/07 15:57 |
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| QUOTE | | Peace and Harmony gets my vote for the worst skill ever. Why would they even think of making this an elite? |
Harrow and I use to have a PH boon prot build that could handle a FoW team fine solo. In other words, its only useless if you dont know what your doing. :)
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| 10/17/07 16:09 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | IMO there is no "useless skill" every skill in the game can be used in conjunction with others to make very powerful builds. |
god i hate ppl who say that its so untrue |
not at all. i agree all skills are used for diffrent things and can all be used efficetvly.
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| 10/17/07 16:20 |
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Deleted. Keep your negative energies/comments to yourself.
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How is he/she racist? Don't insult people like that. Maybe thats why you have negative credit.
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| 10/17/07 16:28 |
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take a chillpill
but what i didn't get how is he a racist?
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i don't want to flame or anything but he gets what he deserves, even with the name already, imature.com
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