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superdad76
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I have beaten the gaint monster Echoilia or something like that, someone said and i quote, you have to beat Echoilia 3 times to Spawn Jack of Irons. Well, i have beaten him 9 times and i have never seen Jack Of Irons. Is he in villains? Man i would to kick his butt. Any info would help out and thank you. And oh what island???
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| 10/23/07 18:36 |
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giles202
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Eoachi is just for the whole halloween event on villains I think. On heroes he is in Croatoa, and Jack is there too (they sometimes fight >.>). But yeah, i don't think Jack spawns in villains, not 100% sure so someone might say otherwise :)
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| 10/23/07 21:52 |
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Actually, if it is like last year, they both will spawn. however, i'm told that the spawn rates are somewhat rare for both Jack and Eochai.
These two GMs are for the Halloween event only for Villains.
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| 10/23/07 23:08 |
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First off, a minor thing, it's Jack-in-Irons and Eochai, not Eaochipooper or whatever :P
And normally, Jack-in-Irons and Eochai only spawn in Croatoa in City of Heroes, but for the duration of the Halloween event, they also spawn in the other parts of Paragon City, and in the Rogue Isles. Good luck hunting them, Jack-in-Irons seems quite rare.
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| 10/24/07 00:10 |
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Just to fill out the info from last year's Event; which appears to be holding true for this year.
* 1 of the 2 Event GM's (Eochai and Jack) will always be 'up' in a Zone. As soon as One is defeated another will spawn.
* The percentages (or 'Chance of Spawning) favor Eochai something like 9 to 1. So, Eochai has 9 times the chance of spawning that Jack does once one of them is taken down.
* Unseelie Court spirits (the dark gaseous things accompanying Eochai) are part of the Eochai spawn and a 'lost' (undefeated and wandering) Unseelie may keep a GM from spawning.
Remember: Just to emphasize this point. Though one of the two GM's will always be active (give or take a few seconds); Jack will not always spawn the ninth time that Eochai is defeated. Nor will Eochai spawn automatically after Jack is defeated. I have seen (and heard tell of) Eochai being defeated upwards of twenty times in a row without a single Jack spawn. Conversely, I have personally been on teams that took out two (perhaps three, I'm not sure it's been a while) Jacks in a row.
Just wanted to mention that because it is statistical coding of the spawn. Therefore it is always a chance to spawn with the chance weighted in Eochai's favor by a significant factor. Yes. I agtree that it is a pain and shouldnt have been coded this way. And yes. Most of us (I would think all) who dealt with it last year feel that way about it, BUT apparently the Devs dont share our opinion and have seen fit to retain the same code, and think that it is appropriate.
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| 10/24/07 02:06 |
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Just one other note, though it probably wont make too much difference, Jack only spawns in level 20+ zones
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| 10/24/07 09:39 |
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| QUOTE | | Just one other note, though it probably wont make too much difference, Jack only spawns in level 20+ zones |
That's true, last year, I and 2 full teams of Villains scourged Mercy for hours, taking down one Eochai after another, in the hope of spawning Jack and get the final and hardest Halloween badge.
Next day, we tried doing the same thing in Grandville, albeit with only one team (with a few 40-45s, lackeyed, but the constant flying around looking for GM spawn, they quickly fell out of lk and died), which made it much harder and made it take longer. We then agreed that each person/lackey-duo take an area on Grandville to look for GM spawn, then meet up at the spawn and take it out. I had the Fab, and after well 3 hours of killing Eochai, he finally popped in my area, and more than a few extra Villains flocked to him and helped take him down. Think there was about 10 Jack spawns total last year
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| 10/24/07 10:31 |
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Sapir brought up some good points.
After a GM is defeated there is 90% chance the new GM spawn will be Eochai, and only 10% that it will be Jack. Unfortunately, this doesn't coralate to the idea that Jack will spawn after 9 Eochai defeats. Heck, last night, we took down a good 8-10 Eochai in PI, and still no Jack. He is one elusive GM, for being the big ole guy he is.
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| 10/24/07 12:17 |
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I was lucky on heroes I guess, I went to Talos and hooked up with a GM team. After three Eochais we got a Jack, after killing him, another Jack. So I guess you just have to be lucky or patient.
Also, is the Jack tougher than Eochai? It took my team about twice as long to kill the Jacks than Eochais.
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| 10/27/07 07:28 |
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