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Sturmwolf
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Today I fought a Dominator in Recluse Victory.
I had my Fire/Rad.
He was a Ice/Thorn.
And I was totally screwed.
=(
He could put a hold on me, but I could hardly hold/slow him.
His AoEs neutralized my Imps.
This situation made me think about the general situation:
Are Dominator more powerful in Pvp than Controller (especially when facing each other)?
Or was it just a missmatch of our powersets(to many toggles on my side)?
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| 10/30/07 12:36 |
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All I can say is that, most people say Dominators are horrible pvP'ers
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| 10/30/07 13:39 |
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| QUOTE | | All I can say is that, most people say Dominators are horrible pvP'ers |
Horrible good or horrible bad?
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| 10/30/07 14:19 |
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I'm pretty sure you ran into one of the better powersets Dominators can go, so quite likely it was just you against the wrong sets.
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| 10/30/07 14:43 |
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Most people have said that Dominators are bad pvp ATs. But I have seen Dominators completely own on the battle field.
Their combonation of holds and attacks make them pretty effective in fights, and if they get the first hit with a hold then you become thier punching bag if you don't have any mez resistance. If they use thier inherent ability domination, then even mez guards won't work.
The problem with Radiation Emission is that you need time to set up the most fundemental debuffs, like Rad infection or enverating field, and this puts you at risk against the target your fighting.
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| 10/30/07 14:45 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | All I can say is that, most people say Dominators are horrible pvP'ers |
Horrible good or horrible bad? |
for me its horrible bad:)
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| 01/10/08 06:04 |
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Doms are only horrible in PvP in the hands of poor players.
Heh, meant to finish my statement, but hit reply and got pulled away. ;)
What I mean is Doms are underrated. Sure, PvP can be tough with a Dom, but PvP is tough on most builds, unless you run the typical FoTMs. But I've seen Doms eat people up in PvP. So don't count em out. :)
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| 01/10/08 07:54 |
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| QUOTE | | Doms are only horrible in PvP in the hands of poor players. |
thx!
i think its just not comfortable...for me anyway
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| 01/10/08 08:41 |
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You silly heroes lol Jking. In my SG we have a lot of Doms that pvp. And trust me they are not bad. If you get them by them selves they can play with the best of em, BUT if you get them on a team they become very and I mean VERY dangerous. Reading all you guys post you missed one very important word when it comes to Doms. Never forget about DOMINATION. Basically if he hits that and your not a up to the top PvPer its all over.
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| 01/10/08 09:57 |
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Doms do poorly in PvP because its much harder for them to build domination. What you ran into was one of the rare dom builds that doesn't need a PvE mob to build domination. Thorn Burst is a pbaoe attack that can be fired anytime you want. Each time you fire it, you get some domination. Fire it enough times, even in the hospital, and you can fill your dom bar completely without any risk. Click Domination and suddenly you have good mezz protection, double magnitude controls, and nearly double duration mezzes. Add to that the fact that /thorns has Aim, and your debuffs were worthless. All he had to do was hit Aim and Block of Ice and you had nothing on him. He certainly wouldn't give you the time needed to stack enough holds on him to break through domination's mezz protection.
If you had had breakfrees and could have outlasted his domination, it would have been a much closer fight. Of course, it would prolly come down to who ran out of break frees first, and since you had already had to use some of your limited supply just to survive his domination, he prolly would have still one. Some dom builds are just really good at PvP.
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| 01/10/08 14:15 |
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Agian on top of everything else. Ampers state it millions of times. It all depends on who is behind the keyboard.
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| 01/12/08 08:07 |
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| QUOTE | | Doms do poorly in PvP because its much harder for them to build domination. What you ran into was one of the rare dom builds that doesn't need a PvE mob to build domination. Thorn Burst is a pbaoe attack that can be fired anytime you want. Each time you fire it, you get some domination. Fire it enough times, even in the hospital, and you can fill your dom bar completely without any risk. Click Domination and suddenly you have good mezz protection, double magnitude controls, and nearly double duration mezzes. Add to that the fact that /thorns has Aim, and your debuffs were worthless. All he had to do was hit Aim and Block of Ice and you had nothing on him. He certainly wouldn't give you the time needed to stack enough holds on him to break through domination's mezz protection. |
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| 01/12/08 08:23 |
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One thing I often forget about, that most PvE-to-PvPers do, and is useful, are those underrated inspirations that you never need PvE (unless you run Willpower vs elements, but that's another problem). Don't forget break-frees allow a period of time of virtual immunity to status effects, if you see them, pop it, then just add a few lucks, ruggeds, and hey, just about everything else, and your good for a few seconds (or at least a minute with the larger ones) to be free to fight on an 'even' playing field.
Most of the times that sets do poor in PvP is because they are geared for PvE and/or come unprepared into a PvP zone.
Heck, Big Chill, which is highly geared for PvE can do quite well in PvP if I carry some insperations, or at least till they run out. Now causing damage, that's a different story...
Big Chill is a conscranker: he conrols a mob so they do nothing, scraps a target till they can't stand, and tanks what's left till the job's done.
Dive in, have fun, and think about it later.
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| 01/12/08 10:55 |
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| QUOTE | | Agian on top of everything else. Ampers state it millions of times. It all depends on who is behind the keyboard. |
yeah your right!im agree with you.
we are all different
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