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RevBudGreen

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Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

Ranger
Player Pets: no longer leave exploitable corpses.

Well, there goes B/P teams. As a Ranger this one update I personally don't like. But like any others, I will adjust to it.

11/13/07 19:51

Sgt P

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

Agreed...and remember they are only evaluating...they will go back after time...or should anyway

11/13/07 20:04

Belshazaarswrath

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

Wait what? Who cares? you know there are these things called enemies that leave exploitable corpses too...people will still use b/p groups...it would be pathetic if people stopped running then for that...

11/13/07 20:08

Skittle Cody

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

Well, I think the MM's can still maintain their maximum amount without the pets leaving an exploitable corpse. The team kills enough enemies as it is so I think it won't kill it.

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11/13/07 20:09

The Quick One

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

why would b/p's end? The pets are still meat shields and if they die... more energy for the necs. I don't really see a problem here, its not that big of a deal.

11/13/07 20:29

smokebam_07

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

just get rid of the pet and go stances

11/13/07 20:30

NoThyEnemy

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

I dont see how this update will kill B/P groups.

11/13/07 21:24

Seth Oneil

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

I thought the primary job of the pets were too take most of the aggro and body block while you rained down death from afar? Oh well xD

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11/13/07 21:25

Crossbow

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

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Agreed...and remember they are only evaluating...they will go back after time...or should anyway

Oh please, they hardly ever change things back to what they once were.

In any case, I don't care about whatever hinderance it may have caused to B/P teams but I just find it stupid that pets don't leave corpses in general. I mean, it's dead, right? So, shouldn't it leave behind something Necros can work with?

11/13/07 21:40

Health_Kill

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

Well they do have that new E/A A/E team's there.
Also we could always find new types of groups that work.

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11/13/07 23:35

Charlotte The Harlot

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

the intention was probably to gut spirit way teams completely but it wont have a large effect on b/p and it will still remain a very effective build.

11/14/07 00:33

DZA

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

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Ranger
Player Pets: no longer leave exploitable corpses.

Well, there goes B/P teams. As a Ranger this one update I personally don't like. But like any others, I will adjust to it.

Your post makes No Sense what so Ever. Pets in B/P are hust meat shields anyways. What matters are the Corpses that players are able to defeat. This won't Affect B/P groups in anyway!

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11/14/07 01:46

Suria

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

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Well, there goes B/P teams. As a Ranger this one update I personally don't like. But like any others, I will adjust to it

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This is the right thing to do.
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11/14/07 02:43

Vicky the merchant

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

um Barrage got buffed.
B/P will be just as popular.
but it may become just plain B

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11/14/07 05:36

Lord_of_Darkness

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

i thought the main purpose is with that grp build is ao the m doesnt have to wiat long to get corpes when there is verry few of then in the zone,Or is that just one of teh advantages of that build.

11/14/07 06:43

mriswith

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

A bit of history about B/P
- pets functioned as a meatshield primarily
- if they died; they gave the opportunity to raise a minion army fast (hence why monks dont heal them)
- minions and pets hold the aggro and make a wall so foes stack closely together and Barrage + OoP and OotV give the maximum benefit

that was the base principle... now back to an update made ages ago: Foes scatter on AoE damage (like barrage). So if this new update of pets is the end of b/p then what did scattering foes do?

Seriously; make a few kills and you have your minions. The pets did not always die first in the first place. in 99,9% the foes died first and the pets died at about the 2nd or 3rd battle. By that time you already have a nice minion army. If your pet belonged to the 0,1% it was probably level 5.

Why is every update always approched from the negative side before even trying it in-game.

Try before you make an opinion.

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11/14/07 11:34

RangerDanger

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

I'm torn on this, because I like the fact that rangers are very valued teammates in the game's elite areas. Unlike the rest of PvE where you can't find a group because everyone assumes you are a noob who uses power shot, read the wind, and marauder's shot as your only offense.
Plus, it's the only time I ever use my pet anymore.

On the flip side, I thin every other profession (aka not monks, necros, or rangers) would like a chance to do ToPK without heroes and henchies. Many players don't belong to large guilds and have a hard time getting a team together for the non-campaign missions.[COLOR=green][/COLOR]

11/14/07 11:43

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

Welcome to GAMEAMP, RangerDanger!

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11/14/07 12:40

Jamnog

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

:/ sacrifice necro might make a comeback could do evil geeks 1hp bip build perhaps and chuck in blood of the master to keep the minions alive eh?(yes one necro can heal another necro's minions).

11/14/07 12:52

RangerDanger

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

Thanks for the welcome Shuuga.
Everyone has mentioned that the combo of pets and aoe (barrage) should keep the BP team concept arrive, but what's to stop an SF/P (nuker with pet?) concept from taking off?
This might be noobish speculation but I'm curious to know if anyone has a reason this wouldn't work.

11/14/07 19:05

Belshazaarswrath

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

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Because E/A's can duel tombs with A/e or another E/A sins...so there really would be no reason for a full team...

11/14/07 19:11

The Guardian of Amp

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

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Because E/A's can duel tombs with A/e or another E/A sins...so there really would be no reason for a full team...

Did Tombs last night with a full group, 1 skill change and it worked just the same. Time wise was within 5-6 minutes of the run before the change. So really made little to no difference.

11/15/07 00:37

Charlotte The Harlot

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

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foes dont scatter from barrage.

The pets corpses only mattered in b/p before the 10 minion limit now it makes next to no difference, although they still provide a nice shield.

11/15/07 02:18

Charlotte The Harlot

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

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It could work potentially but you dont have quite the same range so a lot of the time the enemies will be all over you before the pets do much. with a properly constructed b/p team you can do more dmg and have more defense than a 4-6 sf team so i probably wouldn't go for it.

11/15/07 02:20

mriswith

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

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foes dont scatter from barrage.

Hmm, from one barrager they dont; but if you look at the tombs with a 'perfect' block and 5 Barregers shooting arrows; foes scatter. There is a lot of damage in 1 spot; and especially when splinter was used to its full extend; foes scattered.

Seen it, done it, got the sticker.

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11/15/07 03:25

Charlotte The Harlot

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

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foes dont scatter from barrage.

only from repeated rapid splinter hits they would scatter from just barrages they do not regardless of how packed or how many barragers there are.

11/15/07 03:35

Prince-Firedrake

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

IWAY RETURNS.......

<----- The use of 5 rangers using spinter + barrage = quicker kill, so really they wont have enough time to scatter, unless some people do not attack. Both of you's are right.

11/15/07 04:42

MasterSaji

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

Team builds rarely die. A simple reason causes this fact.

Teams are more fun to play in rather than soloing or dual-running.

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11/15/07 06:43

Nihzu

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

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just get rid of the pet and go stances

That was a joke, right?

You probably meant "just get rid of that "copy/paste from PvX" habit and use your head", right?

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11/15/07 08:28

orber

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RE: Say Good Bye to B/P Teams

i had no problems at all.
did tombs yesterday the rangers just used their original builds with pets.
i always play MM in tombs and i had no problems running my build if things go well there plenty of corpses and with the new barrage we only went faster.

however i just find it fake that a thing made of flesh and blood doesnt leave any corpse at all.

it just isnt right >.>

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