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Seriusly, Anet can never leave soul reaping alone, its like the 5th time they nerf it!
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| 11/14/07 02:34 |
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There is nothing to talk about it.
A-net did the right thing.
You know, before you say anything bad about a nerf think of PvE, PvP and HvH (hero vs gero battles).
I say that nerfs keep the game less boring and more challenging even tho some nerfs hurt real bad ;)
I would've quit this game a long time ago if there were no nerfs.
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| 11/14/07 02:42 |
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| QUOTE | | its like the 5th time they nerf it! |
I only count two times, and honestly, SR is more balaced for PvE and PvP play than it ever was.
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| 11/14/07 05:50 |
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It just means that u cant give oilas recup spirt for him wont give him energy I still have my orders MM build and that is better than my old build LOL.
I honeslty think they aregettig us rdy for Gw2 with all this nerfing and stuff.
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If you'd play Hero Battles, you'd know why this was the best Necro nerf ever. Necros make better ritus than the current ritus, no ty, gg Anet.
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I say revert it, it was fine before.....and sorry but I had to laugh at that "necros make better rits than rits do".....Harrow runs a healer rit build that heals the whole party for more than 100 health at a time and he doesnt have any energy problems whatsoever, I dont see how soul reaping would change that.
As I said in the other post, A-net needs different versions of each skill(and attributes it seems....they end up nerfing something for 1 specific place, and they cause that skill(or attribute) to suck anywhere else.
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| 11/14/07 08:28 |
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| QUOTE | | Leave soulreaping alone! |
no...
why u whine about this? because u play sway in TA and HA 24/7? so now as u cant win anymore u cry? if so...
owned. l2p
if not... ( dont pvp )
why do u care? it only changed to that u dont gain any energy from spirits...and this was because of all the n/rt healers that were simply too strong, and needed a nerf long time ago.
never saw groups in pve that only got necro healers....
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| 11/14/07 08:45 |
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Sould reaping! Yay!!
Seriously it was intensly overpowered... oh well life goes on.
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| 11/14/07 08:52 |
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i dont think you should whine, it changes nothing to the PvE play, only kills spiritway. since when do you use spirits for energy in PvE? anyway, i though i give an oppinion from the PvE side of the game. stop whining, nothing changed! soul reaping owns hard still. and that one thing that you couldn't get more then 3 times soul reaping they fixed nicely, now you get 3 times soul reaping in 5 seconds! and thats really enough. except when you are in a farm group and you spike hardly, there will never ever die more then 3 foes in 5 wseconds. so please have fun and ADDEPT.
it's not of any use to cry and dont addept builds immediately. change and try something new, makes the game way more fun.
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| 11/14/07 09:34 |
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spiritway nerf ftw, to bad its months to late. SR is better than it ever was now
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| 11/14/07 10:12 |
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Bout time anet!
Reason for celebration imo!
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| QUOTE | | spiritway nerf ftw, to bad its months to late. SR is better than it ever was now |
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| 11/14/07 10:34 |
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I like the SR update. I mean come on.... Why would Spirits give you energy on death?
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| QUOTE | no...
why u whine about this? because u play sway in TA and HA 24/7? so now as u cant win anymore u cry? if so...
owned. l2p
if not... ( dont pvp )
why do u care? it only changed to that u dont gain any energy from spirits...and this was because of all the n/rt healers that were simply too strong, and needed a nerf long time ago.
never saw groups in pve that only got necro healers....
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| 11/14/07 10:41 |
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well i think A-net did the right thing, but they should've thought about making SR unaffected by spirits, before they implemented that weird 3 times/15 seconds thingy... (cause that ''nerf'' blowed)
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| 11/14/07 11:28 |
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| QUOTE | I say revert it, it was fine before.....and sorry but I had to laugh at that "necros make better rits than rits do".....Harrow runs a healer rit build that heals the whole party for more than 100 health at a time and he doesnt have any energy problems whatsoever, I dont see how soul reaping would change that.
As I said in the other post, A-net needs different versions of each skill(and attributes it seems....they end up nerfing something for 1 specific place, and they cause that skill(or attribute) to suck anywhere else. |
i think crim, when he said that necro made better rits than rits he meant spirit spammers...or at least that is what i gathered from his post and it's relevence to the current topic
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| 11/14/07 12:10 |
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...N/Rt Healers utiziling Ritualist Restoration magic skills to heal up allies while being battery powered by anything dying, near unlimited energy through soul reaping basicly.
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| 11/14/07 13:03 |
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In short they havent nerfed it in months.
Before this they made no benefit from other peoples spirits...
The only nerf I have been irritated by is that I have to be in agro circle of the thing that gets killed and I got over that pretty quick its not like us necro don't have e management skills imo I would like to see more sr skills that manage energy. yeah its not what it was but unless your farming charr it wont make that big a difference.
I'm not jumping for joy but I think its relatively tame if its even a nerf.
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| QUOTE | | Chilblains: now works on target foe instead of having a point-blank area of effect; decreased number of Enchantments affected to 1; increased casting time to 2 seconds |
Irritated me a lot more. No more killing a dervish instantly :( was over powered can understand why they did it.
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| QUOTE | ...N/Rt Healers utiziling Ritualist Restoration magic skills to heal up allies while being battery powered by anything dying, near unlimited energy through soul reaping basicly.
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Harrow and I have worked through most of the Factions game, with him healing and tahlkora as backup. He heals far better than tahlk does, probably even better than the N/Rt heals, and, he has NEVER had energy problems. Therefore, at least from a PvE standpoint, SR did not need any nerfing as it didnt enable necros to do anything rits couldnt already do. But, if your talking about spirit spammers, then yeah, maybe it did need nerfing.
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| 11/14/07 14:03 |
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| QUOTE | | Harrow and I have worked through most of the Factions game, with him healing and tahlkora as backup. He heals far better than tahlk does, probably even better than the N/Rt heals, and, he has NEVER had energy problems. Therefore, at least from a PvE standpoint, SR did not need any nerfing as it didnt enable necros to do anything rits couldnt already do. But, if your talking about spirit spammers, then yeah, maybe it did need nerfing. |
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soul reaping stil works fine in pve, i believed this nerf just rebirthed our HA, which is gonna make me cheer again
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| 11/14/07 14:19 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | Harrow and I have worked through most of the Factions game, with him healing and tahlkora as backup. He heals far better than tahlk does, probably even better than the N/Rt heals, and, he has NEVER had energy problems. Therefore, at least from a PvE standpoint, SR did not need any nerfing as it didnt enable necros to do anything rits couldnt already do. But, if your talking about spirit spammers, then yeah, maybe it did need nerfing. |
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soul reaping stil works fine in pve, i believed this nerf just rebirthed our HA, which is gonna make me cheer again
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Fixed your quote for ya, now, on topic. :P
I was mainly responding to dragoniusx in my post, who said N/Rt healers had near infinite energy, well, Harrow had a healing build that never ran out of energy, therefore it technically had near infinite energy as well, without being Necro w/ there soul reaping.
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| 11/14/07 14:29 |
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yeh i know, i think me and drag discussed this like 12 + hours how worse sway actually is.
for pve only n/rt heroes will not work properly anymore but that aint that hard, at least not for me
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| 11/14/07 15:21 |
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I was mainly responding to dragoniusx in my post, who said N/Rt healers had near infinite energy, well, Harrow had a healing build that never ran out of energy, therefore it technically had near infinite energy as well, without being Necro w/ there soul reaping. |
I was talking about the N/rt's yes, to be very honest i dont care about whether Harrow and you (See "Harrow and I"'s in last 200 posts) had a healing build that never ran out of energy, the problem were the N/rt's and now they are delt with.
For some PvEers that dont know about the N/rt's batteries i figured id explain it. Alright?
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| 11/14/07 15:23 |
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I think you'll get over it.
There's these things called "enemies" you kill.
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| 11/14/07 16:05 |
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I was mainly responding to dragoniusx in my post, who said N/Rt healers had near infinite energy, well, Harrow had a healing build that never ran out of energy, therefore it technically had near infinite energy as well, without being Necro w/ there soul reaping. |
I was talking about the N/rt's yes, to be very honest i dont care about whether Harrow and you (See "Harrow and I"'s in last 200 posts) had a healing build that never ran out of energy, the problem were the N/rt's and now they are delt with.
For some PvEers that dont know about the N/rt's batteries i figured id explain it. Alright? |
Well, seeing as you said they were healers with near infinite energy, and others said they did a rits job better than a rit, I just figured I would post that those rits doing worse than the Necros just dont know how to play rits.....Ok Mr. Careless?
In other words, they nerfed something that was perfectly balanced, if you knew how to play a rit.
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I too, playing as a healer Rt have never been conserned with energy, most of the heals are of such low cost that it doesn't make sense to sacrifice healing power for always having a full energy bar when you don't need it. i'd rather heal someone for the full 150, not 110, as that extra 40 hp is much more precious than the possible -1 or 2 energy i'll have when i'm ready to recast.
big whoop. N/Rt... i laugh. Rt/N's actually make better BiP's than N/Mo's. i wrote a guide on that too. if party support is what you're looking for, then Rt/N for that. 100%. my necro doesn't even BiP anymore, soloy my Rt and the pugs i'm with love it because i'm way more supportive all around and my BiP is still effective at Blood Magic 12.
it really takes the pressure off the monks.
anywho. yea, energy has never been a concern for my Rt in any of the builds i use, and i play my ritualist a lot. (enough to have over 4mil exp anyway)
infact, if you look at my sig, you'll see a necro, monk and an Rt. those are my 3 most played chars, so i can rightfully say that a healer Rt is better than a healer necro because i've done both, and in some ways, a Rt healer is better than a monk and a monk's better than an Rt. depends on what you're doing.
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| 11/14/07 16:59 |
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They shouldn't have been getting energy from spirits in the first place. It doesn't even make sense...
It's not like necros don't have energy management after all...I mean theres masochism and signet of lost souls and offfering of blood...pick your poison
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no...
why u whine about this? because u play sway in TA and HA 24/7? so now as u cant win anymore u cry? if so...
owned. l2p
if not... ( dont pvp )
why do u care? it only changed to that u dont gain any energy from spirits...and this was because of all the n/rt healers that were simply too strong, and needed a nerf long time ago.
never saw groups in pve that only got necro healers.... |
Agreed.
This seems like the type of topic Rogue would say something completely offtopic and random in.
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| 11/14/07 18:57 |
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| QUOTE | anywho. yea, energy has never been a concern for my Rt in any of the builds i use, and i play my ritualist a lot. (enough to have over 4mil exp anyway)
infact, if you look at my sig, you'll see a necro, monk and an Rt. those are my 3 most played chars, so i can rightfully say that a healer Rt is better than a healer necro because i've done both, and in some ways, a Rt healer is better than a monk and a monk's better than an Rt. depends on what you're doing. |
Yeah, I havnt played Rt much, but me and Harrow use voice chat whenever we play, so I get filled in a lot on what his energy is, how much his heal just healed for, etc.
I would say rits > monk for party healers, and monks > rits for single-target spike healers. At least, from what I've heard from harrow, he's constantly healing the party when he heals on his rit. :P
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| 11/14/07 19:02 |
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ugh 2-scratch that 3!!! posts on the top 5 that have to do with relatively the same thing. a nerf!
Things happen, some good some bad, you just need to figure out a way to keep going
Nerfs keep this game interesting and ever more challenging.
stop whining
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