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anan saman

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Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

ok, i camp with a problem, im 24/25 of guardian and i still need hells precipice(the last mission of prof). It is REALLY REALL hard...ofcourse, thats to be expected in HM but not this hard! i meen when i encounter a group with 2 or more titan sparks atleast 1 or 2 group members die, always. i don't know what to do anymore... anyone got a hint to help or something? thanks in advance

11/15/07 07:14

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

Advice on the general scale:

1) PvE only skills are overpowered as all hell compared to your standard skills. Use them to your advantage.

For example: if everyone on your team had "Save Yourselves" that's a pretty much permenant +100 armor for the team. Impractical, but theoretically possible.

2) Analyse your foes, and bring builds specifically tailored to defeating them - don't just take bog standard PvX builds - titans are weak to cold damage, and the common exploit of this is to bring high DPS elementalists and a ranger with a high level Winter spirit.

3) Use consumable items to buff your team as much as you see necessary.

4) Make certain your team-mates aren't idiots. Poor co-operation and/or skill synergy = failure.

11/15/07 07:59

anan saman

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RE: Hell\'s precipice HM almost impossible?

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Advice on the general scale:

1) PvE only skills are overpowered as all hell compared to your standard skills. Use them to your advantage.

ofcourse, as stated this is the last mission needed HM tyria, i know what im doing :P

For example: if everyone on your team had "Save Yourselves" that's a pretty much permenant +100 armor for the team. Impractical, but theoretically possible.

you need high lvl luxon rank for that, im rank 2, but that only gives 3 seconds, that wont save us

2) Analyse your foes, and bring builds specifically tailored to defeating them - don't just take bog standard PvX builds - titans are weak to cold damage, and the common exploit of this is to bring high DPS elementalists and a ranger with a high level Winter spirit.

yes i know, but it wont help, try it and you know what i meen, you are dead within 5 secs, not eve winter helps

3) Use consumable items to buff your team as much as you see necessary.

i know, but my time doesn't die, it gets whiped

4) Make certain your team-mates aren't idiots. Poor co-operation and/or skill synergy = failure.

that's one of the largest problems :P

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11/15/07 08:28

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RE: Hell\'s precipice HM almost impossible?

Had to complete it with 2 Dervish/Warriors with armor buffs and health buffs, just to tank some damage. A Ritualist with a very nice healing build. Two Fire Elementalists/Dervish, a Monk/Mesmer, Olias with minions and a Ranger/Monk with Winter. Winter can be obtained in a mission around yaks bend. I think we had one of our elementalists die once and a few times for the warriors but the Rit did a good job of rezzing people. I have the Rit build and the Elementalist/Dervish build saved on my home computer. Im currently at work. PM me in game for the build. Stigmata Raven

11/15/07 08:29

anan saman

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

i mostly use my necro to heal :P n/rt FTW and i dont think that'll work because i first need a team lol, and ougs aren't a option...

it must be h/h someway, or atleast dont with max 3 people and heros rest...

11/15/07 08:33

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

Mantra of Flame + Ward Against Harm

11/15/07 08:40

anan saman

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

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Mantra of Flame + Ward Against Harm

you think :P ill try but we hadn't that much luck with mantra of flame only, but thanks for the idea

11/15/07 08:42

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

<- Guardian of Tyria :P

11/15/07 08:46

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

ever heard of greater conflageration and of winter.... those used with mantra of frost (everybody should bring it) is pretty decent (not only against sparks but against practicly anything (chaos dark dmg etc excepted)

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11/15/07 09:21

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

was gonna say the same
winter + mantra of frost should work for a degree :)

11/15/07 09:37

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

1 word: Interupts

11/15/07 09:37

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

elemental resistance will work great here, manatra of flame is ok but elemental is alot better :)

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11/15/07 10:24

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

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He's doing that, and failing

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1 word: Interupts

Can you interupt multiple spells from multiple enemies? I can't.

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Mantra of Flame + Ward Against Harm

1 Word: Yes

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11/15/07 17:36

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

A couple of things:

Bonders, I find it makes hard mode that much easier if you revert back to the old days when you took a bonder and a battery necro to upkeep energy and bonds.

Mantra of whatever. If your ranger is bringing winter (like usual) mantra of frost, if not mantra of flame, it provides great defense and energy whenever you take that elemental damage making you take less damage and not have an energy problem great for monks and casters alike.

Mesmers, yup good 'ol mesmers! Spells that dissallow the sparks to cast or to be interrupted from casting takes damage away completely. I say mesmers because they interrupt better than rangers most of the time (whenever I run a mesmer anyway) and spells like Guilt, shame and diversion can shut enemy casters down almost completely.

Greater conflagration, remember the winter you're bringing with mantra of frost? Why not make physical damage give you energy and count as cold damage as well so you take less damage if you have to deal with sparks and melee creatures at he same time.

That's pretty much all I can think of right now ^_^ good luck.

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11/15/07 17:59

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

i used there's nothing to fear and 3 rangers interrupted what we could and the tntf and save yourself spam prevented what go through.

11/15/07 18:16

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RE: Hell\'s precipice HM almost impossible?

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1 word: Interupts

Can you interupt multiple spells from multiple enemies? I can't.

If bunched Malestorm works great:)

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11/15/07 18:26

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

I was able to H/H this mission, on hardmode, useing 2 Water ele heroes with Maelstrom. Basically just go through the mission carefully, making sure to pull/wall. You may need to force the heroes to use some skills but after you are used to it things should work out fine.

Also, with the release of EotN and PvE only skills, things should be MUCH easier.

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11/15/07 19:35

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

Have a tank run in there with the enchantment Spell breaker.
The sparks will try to cast their spells and waste energy, You can hear a interupt sound over and over again, like, Click, click, click, ect, eventaully the clicking stops which I would imagine the imps ran out of energy.
OB flesh prevents the attempt of casting spell and doesn't waste their energy if they can't cast.
Unsure about vow of silence.

Like every else said, Mantra's should help. I like to bring elemental resistance so you expect anything and everything.

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11/15/07 19:49

anan saman

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

thanks guys, got to try that out!!

11/16/07 01:24

Dani Le

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

Hey if i can get on later i will help you with this :)

If not try what everyone else has said but I found bonding the key here along with good pulling and flagging of your heros and hench. Put life barrier up on everyone and this with the mantras will be overkill making the damage easier to cope with.

Spread your heros out before you lure the sparks because rogorts will hurt lots if your bunched up, specially when you get to the point where there are groups of 4-6.

Also now with pain inverter you should be able to take down the sparks easily.

Breath of the great dwalf might be nice to for cheap clearing some of the burning, if you can squeeze it onto your bar thou.

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11/16/07 04:49

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RE: Hell's precipice HM almost impossible?

Winter is yout freind only attack one titan at a time because they spawn more than one creature,pain inverter and tecnobabble would prob also work,and if not that maybe eve nbreath of the dwarf since your a necro I prob say SV also since there higher lvl than you they will have way more life than you.

11/16/07 06:48

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