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Ganymede
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Well I do not know about any of you but I love to scrimage people. I was just thinking about a title for winning 1 vs 1 battles. I know by the time many of you are done reading this you'll reply that people could abuse it by having their freinds go against them and they would lose on purpose. So what if A-net made a whole new arena like they did for hero battles, so that you would be matched up random so that you can't abuse the ways of getting points. Another thing people will say what about profession match up, like a ele going against a warroir. Well if that ele has blinding flash on his/her bar it would not be that much of a fair fight, so they could have the professions only fight their own profession, like melee against melee etc. Give me some feedback on this idea all will be much abliged.(< not sure if thats the right spelling forgive me if I'm wrong.)
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| 11/20/07 19:46 |
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Rogue
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1v1s define even less skill than RA, and we already have a title for that.
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| 11/20/07 20:17 |
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didnt they use to have gladiator arena?
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| 11/20/07 20:41 |
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Ganymede
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| QUOTE | | 1v1s define even less skill than RA, and we already have a title for that. |
How is it less skill? Pleases elaborate.
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| 11/20/07 20:49 |
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The only problem I see here is that it would be way to easy for mesmer so what would end up happening would be Anet would nerf all the mesmer skills and even more people would get annoyed at Anet.
I do agree though that 1v1's are fun! :)
ill get around to making a new sig later
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| 11/20/07 21:14 |
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Rogue
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1v1 assassin winner is the one who gets the KD first.
W/ is the one who uses ripostes more
Me/ is the one who blasts an interrupt as soon as they get into range.
E/ is the one who reduces the most damage while dealing the most.
N/ is the one who somehow manages to drain more health and energy than the other guy.
D/ is the one who manages to keep up his enchants longer
R/ is whoever interrupts troll, blocks more.
P/ would be slow and pointless. Blockagons.
Rt/ would end in 30 minute stalemates
Mo/ No monk could ever out damage another monk by itself.
Then when you integrate and have cross class battles, you get to have touch rangers running rampant, cripshots to counter them. Random YAA Sins and IW mesmers.
Then idiots would claim that those classes are imbalanced because they dominate as solo DPS/healers. And then we'd see classes get nerfed straight off the charts because Izzy likes to listen to the squeaky wheels.
All of this would happen especially if any kind of 1v1 was made remotely competitive.
It's hard enough for Izzy to keep things balanced in 8v8 and 4v4. Don't even think about adding another arena. It would screw up balance even more.
Also, I don't feel like explaining why it takes less skill to win 1v1 than it does to win 8v8. If you honestly can't figure that out on your own there's either something wrong, or you haven't ever played competitive GvG.
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| 11/20/07 21:51 |
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Hammerite Rozsda
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I was wondering, why doesn't Anet extend the Balthazar Faction 5000 points after a rank gain to the Luxon/Kurzik titles as well?
I am tired as hell to have achieved level 8 Kurzick and I still have 10k max Balthazar Faction collectable.
It is unfair that other titles give you extra but this one doesn't.
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| 11/20/07 23:40 |
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Rogue
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FFF and Jade Arena are the answer to that question.
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| 11/20/07 23:42 |
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i agree with rouge, novel idea but 1v1 take almost 0 talent
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| 11/21/07 00:14 |
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And this will also be abused. They just say in guild chat± let΄s do 1 vs 1 and kill eachother in turns?
Than you would have title in no-time. And it's not such a big challenge.
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| 11/21/07 02:52 |
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DarkAura
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why cant they make the ripostes an PVE only skill cus they are the most noobish skills of all..
And i did 1v1 a lot of times as a war, but only against experienced without the **** ripostes, and thats really fun
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| 11/21/07 03:00 |
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| QUOTE | The only problem I see here is that it would be way to easy for mesmer so what would end up happening would be Anet would nerf all the mesmer skills and even more people would get annoyed at Anet.
I do agree though that 1v1's are fun! :) |
Why would it be easy for mesmer? If I was ranger I would own a mesmer. As assassin too probably. Amd I don't think they gonna nerf ALL skills just for the 1 vs 1 title.
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| 11/21/07 03:20 |
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Why would it be easy for mesmer? If I was ranger I would own a mesmer. As assassin too probably. Amd I don't think they gonna nerf ALL skills just for the 1 vs 1 title. |
One Ineptitude/Clumsiness and almost every class who deals Physical damage is done for. For Melee you can even bring Signet of Midnight which is even easier to maintain...
Casters: Frustration and Power Drain combined with some Degen Hex Spells and the job is done.
Or you can just specialize in one area and whenever you lose, just rerun untill you find a good opponent (aka Warriors).
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| 11/21/07 05:41 |
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| QUOTE | | One Ineptitude/Clumsiness and almost every class who deals Physical damage is done for |
Oh hai, I'm not gonna attack. Let's see who gets bored first.
| QUOTE | | For Melee you can even bring Signet of Midnight which is even easier to maintain... |
Oh hai again, my name is mending touch and this is my friend interrupt.
Seriously though, 1v1 generally isn't a good concept. A decent ranger who knows how to use d-shot/savage will win more than half of the opponents he faces. If you add cripshot into the equation you'll be getting even more wins. Mending touch will finish this off nicely.
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| 11/21/07 08:48 |
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there was a gladiator arena a long time ago that was for 1vs1, anet removed it.
but i would reall enjoy seeing an emote for gladiator title, a title for balthazar faction (to show off my 4 mill ;D) and a NPC that gives u flames of balthazar in exchange for faction.
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| 11/21/07 10:21 |
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Oh hai, I'm not gonna attack. Let's see who gets bored first.
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Hello, my name is the illusion magic attribute line. Among several exciting spells I give are Conjure Nightmare and Conjure Phantasm, in addition to the usual ineptitude/clumsiness combo.
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Oh hai again, my name is mending touch and this is my friend interrupt. |
Hello, my name is frustration & leech signet. While you are struggling with blind, I am interrupting and using degen on you. If things get ugly, and I need to concentrate, distortion is my friend.
Stop the sarcasm please on the PvP-threads, if you wanna look funny go to the rant & rave. ;-)
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| 11/21/07 10:40 |
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Rap Man
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A reason why we don't have a 1v1 arena is because it bad builds do well in it. A 1v1 will just lead to more people thinking tanking is good and bad skills are good.
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| 11/21/07 11:01 |
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I see E/D Tankers,Touchers and Virulence Spike mesmers back in tha Meta :D.(if it was 1 vs 1 arena). It's very useless and has no skill.
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| 11/21/07 11:06 |
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Bad idea, alot of E/D's, or Shadowform people. -.-' No skill required, just boooooooring.
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| 11/21/07 11:52 |
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| QUOTE | | Bad idea, alot of E/D's, or Shadowform people. -.-' No skill required, just boooooooring. |
Shadow vs Aoe Enchantement remover (yeah , they exist). and some spike/stealing skills = gg ?
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| 11/21/07 11:56 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | Bad idea, alot of E/D's, or Shadowform people. -.-' No skill required, just boooooooring. |
Shadow vs Aoe Enchantement remover (yeah , they exist).
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How many would bring an AoE enchant remover to a 1vs1 fight?
Or that signet enchant remover.
And I don't like the idea of 1vs1 arena, I think people above me summed up why. If you want 1vs1, go to AB and look for the warrior screaming ANY1 WANNA 1VS1?!!!111oneleventyone
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| 11/21/07 12:05 |
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Ganymede
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| QUOTE | 1v1 assassin winner is the one who gets the KD first.
W/ is the one who uses ripostes more
Me/ is the one who blasts an interrupt as soon as they get into range.
E/ is the one who reduces the most damage while dealing the most.
N/ is the one who somehow manages to drain more health and energy than the other guy.
D/ is the one who manages to keep up his enchants longer
R/ is whoever interrupts troll, blocks more.
P/ would be slow and pointless. Blockagons.
Rt/ would end in 30 minute stalemates
Mo/ No monk could ever out damage another monk by itself.
Then when you integrate and have cross class battles, you get to have touch rangers running rampant, cripshots to counter them. Random YAA Sins and IW mesmers.
Then idiots would claim that those classes are imbalanced because they dominate as solo DPS/healers. And then we'd see classes get nerfed straight off the charts because Izzy likes to listen to the squeaky wheels.
All of this would happen especially if any kind of 1v1 was made remotely competitive.
It's hard enough for Izzy to keep things balanced in 8v8 and 4v4. Don't even think about adding another arena. It would screw up balance even more.
Also, I don't feel like explaining why it takes less skill to win 1v1 than it does to win 8v8. If you honestly can't figure that out on your own there's either something wrong, or you haven't ever played competitive GvG. |
Ok if your not smart enoguh yea you'll get pwned by kd's and riptoses. You could use critical defense to block the kd, use a W/A build with expose defenses to sidestep the riptoses and etc for the other professions. There are ways to beat the builds but people are to lazy to find a solution. Also rits and paras can do a tremendous amount of damage they are not just good for using shouts and spamming spirits, play them and you'll find out. 1 vs 1 is like a 8 vs 8 in many ways. Your all of the 8 people, you have to make sure that you health is at an ok point, you must make sure you can spike with a combo or do the damage you want to do, so you pretty much pack all of those 8 roles into one person. Now I can understand that might be to hard for people to do all 8 jobs at once so they prefer doin the 8 vs 8 so that they can only have one job. Alos I have done GvG its ok fun but I can't do it for long before I get bored of the repetiveness.
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| 11/21/07 14:34 |
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| QUOTE | | 1 vs 1 is like a 8 vs 8 in many ways. |
no, its not
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| 11/21/07 14:48 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | 1 vs 1 is like a 8 vs 8 in many ways. |
no, its not |
| QUOTE | | 1 vs 1 is like a 8 vs 8 in many ways. Your all of the 8 people, you have to make sure that you health is at an ok point, you must make sure you can spike with a combo or do the damage you want to do, so you pretty much pack all of those 8 roles into one person. |
Did you even care to read the reason?
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| 11/21/07 14:54 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | 1 vs 1 is like a 8 vs 8 in many ways. |
no, its not |
| QUOTE | | 1 vs 1 is like a 8 vs 8 in many ways. Your all of the 8 people, you have to make sure that you health is at an ok point, you must make sure you can spike with a combo or do the damage you want to do, so you pretty much pack all of those 8 roles into one person. |
Did you even care to read the reason?
-Ganymede |
well by your "reasoning" all of GW works like that.
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| 11/21/07 14:58 |
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So your telling me that in a 8 vs 8 a person has to heal himself/herself? I thought that they had a backline for that or are they there just to be there?
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| 11/21/07 15:01 |
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| QUOTE | So your telling me that in a 8 vs 8 a person has to heal himself/herself? I thought that they had a backline for that or are they there just to be there?
-Ganymede |
congrats, you know what a back line is for.
Im pretty sure your the one saying that, and no Im not saying that and had no intention to.
And your also saying that GvG is repetitive? You have any idea how repetitive 1v1 would be?
1v1 shows no skill what so ever, all it shows is that you can press 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 in succession thats it, GW is a team game - and please dont try to show you have a good understanding of PvP when you clearly dont.
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| 11/21/07 15:07 |
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| QUOTE | So your telling me that in a 8 vs 8 a person has to heal himself/herself? I thought that they had a backline for that or are they there just to be there?
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No but it appears you are. 1v1 people carry self healing. in 8v8 you don't need to due to the backline you mentioned.
1v1 is a bad idea, 1v1 is the opposite of GW. GW is a team game. 1v1 isn't.
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| 11/21/07 15:09 |
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Honestly, what game are you playing? It sure as hell isn't guildwars. I've been trying to be nice to you and give you the benefit of the doubt, but even your own reasoning is contradictory.
1v1s would be even more repetitive than HB, which is about 100 billion times more repetitive than GvG. And there are counters to every build, yes shut the hell up on that, next person I see say that gets negative 10 for being an idiot. There are builds that can counter everything, SF sin, bring chiliblains. Good job, you brought a skill that will remove his skill and waste all your energy. Sure you'll win, but when you face someone with anything else, you'll explode. Which is why you'll never see any kind of 1v1 build. It would be more buildwars than any form of PvP currently out there.
"1v1 is like 8v8 in many ways" No it's not, learn to play. Your reason for why it's like that is basically a reason for why it's not like that. Packing 8 roles into one person basically means a one skill to replace a full bar. If there were any skills like that in the first place they would have been nerfed out of existence a long time ago. Now, you really can't have both spike and healing on yourself. It's physically impossible to kill someone in under 5 seconds by yourself and still have healing that wouldn't get you blown up before that.
| QUOTE | | So your telling me that in a 8 vs 8 a person has to heal himself/herself? I thought that they had a backline for that or are they there just to be there? |
Stop pushing this Idea, you clearly have no clue how a metagame works, and how stale the 1v1 meta would become.
EDIT:I just remembered Dru saying something about not being able to give neg cred anymore. Probably a good thing, as this would have been the first time I'd have used it for something other than flaming. Oh and anyone who thinks that there's a counter for every build and that's why things shouldn't be changed is an idiot and should uninstall guildwars. I'd insert a joke about uninstalling IRL too, but this is gameamp and we're less tolerant of telling people to GDIAF here than on QQ. I'm not going to explain my acronyms, the point is. Stop being dumb.
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| 11/21/07 15:44 |
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| QUOTE | Honestly, what game are you playing? It sure as hell isn't guildwars. I've been trying to be nice to you and give you the benefit of the doubt, but even your own reasoning is contradictory.
1v1s would be even more repetitive than HB, which is about 100 billion times more repetitive than GvG. And there are counters to every build, yes shut the hell up on that, next person I see say that gets negative 10 for being an idiot. There are builds that can counter everything, SF sin, bring chiliblains. Good job, you brought a skill that will remove his skill and waste all your energy. Sure you'll win, but when you face someone with anything else, you'll explode. Which is why you'll never see any kind of 1v1 build. It would be more buildwars than any form of PvP currently out there.
"1v1 is like 8v8 in many ways" No it's not, learn to play. Your reason for why it's like that is basically a reason for why it's not like that. Packing 8 roles into one person basically means a one skill to replace a full bar. If there were any skills like that in the first place they would have been nerfed out of existence a long time ago. Now, you really can't have both spike and healing on yourself. It's physically impossible to kill someone in under 5 seconds by yourself and still have healing that wouldn't get you blown up before that.
| QUOTE | | So your telling me that in a 8 vs 8 a person has to heal himself/herself? I thought that they had a backline for that or are they there just to be there? |
Stop pushing this Idea, you clearly have no clue how a metagame works, and how stale the 1v1 meta would become.
EDIT:I just remembered Dru saying something about not being able to give neg cred anymore. Probably a good thing, as this would have been the first time I'd have used it for something other than flaming. Oh and anyone who thinks that there's a counter for every build and that's why things shouldn't be changed is an idiot and should uninstall guildwars. I'd insert a joke about uninstalling IRL too, but this is gameamp and we're less tolerant of telling people to GDIAF here than on QQ. I'm not going to explain my acronyms, the point is. Stop being dumb. |
lol I'm sure as hell sure tha I am playing GW the little icon on my desktop says it shall I take a pic and send it to you? I also now how to play most likely better than yourself, it seems to me that your bent up on GvG than anything else. Ok so all rangers carry troll? Well you know that is wrong since you play GvG and HA, unless you have never done a Ranger spike and if not I highly suggest one they are quite fun. I'm not pushing the idea only backing up my idea, I personally do not care that they won't put in an arena for it. lol 1 vs 1 meta being stale every form pvp should be considered stale, HA I think is pretty stale right now mostly Iways, sways, some assa casters, and rarely degenways. So do you not want to have a counter build for every build? If thats so I think its time for you to unistall GW right now, if there wasn't a counter build for another build GW would prolly be the most boring game. I personally would not like getting owned by the same build everytime, but hey if thats the kinda person you are thats cool. I am not being dumb, maybe you need to be more open to the ideas of other instead of being negative and using the caveman technique and trying to bash the heck out of it.
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| 11/21/07 17:37 |
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