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LegendaryAngelWngs

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GW2

Trust me when GW2 comes out. There will be no more monks or they will be monks not very supportive of their teammates anymore. I'm asking why are they disabling the mouse from being able to target walk? Pretty much how am I suppose to heal people? Seriously the c bracket doesn't really even work for me at all. I have tried using it. You can't exactly target someone single out easily with it. Maybe I'm the only one who has this problem. I am not sure, but all I can say is that I won't be buying GW2 for just this reason. I love being a monk, only char I'll ever use. I don't wanna change professions to be different char that I have no interest in. Does anyone know why they're doing this? When its really going to effect a lot of cast spelling chars even probably the rits?

11/20/07 22:31

mr47

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RE: GW2

wtf. who says there will be no monks? and you cant point to move...nothing about not being able to click team mates. i think you just need to calm down...

11/20/07 22:32

LegendaryAngelWngs

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RE: GW2

You know how hard it'll be to use the arrows and the numbers while using the mouse at the same time? It's going to be almost impossible to pull off.

11/20/07 22:36

Skittle Cody

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RE: GW2

Well, clicking to move with the mouse has NOTHING to do with healing.

I don't see your concern.

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11/20/07 22:38

LegendaryAngelWngs

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RE: GW2

You have to be able to run and move around while trying to heal people. You know during AB and even missions? You can't just stand in one place while healing someone. You'll just die.

11/20/07 22:42

Skittle Cody

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RE: GW2

Thats why we have WASD keys.
One hand on mouse, other on those keys.
Click ally -> use skill -> move -> repeat.

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11/20/07 22:44

Kanna

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RE: GW2

Party Windows? And where did you get your info from? I've not heard of this. Also, GW2 is still a year away from BETA!... So please stop saying its the end of the world. :P

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11/20/07 22:45

LegendaryAngelWngs

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RE: GW2

It was on guild wiki about guild wars 2. Um..dude have you actually tried being a monk and doing that way? It's not easy. XD

11/20/07 22:46

Skittle Cody

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It was on guild wiki about guild wars 2. Um..dude have you actually tried being a monk and doing that way? It's not easy. XD

I do it all the time, and Kanna is pro monk.
PRO!

That's how I control all my characters.

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11/20/07 22:47

mr47

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RE: GW2

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It was on guild wiki about guild wars 2. Um..dude have you actually tried being a monk and doing that way? It's not easy. XD

I do it all the time, and Kanna is pro monk.
PRO!

That's how I control all my characters.

same. wasd ftw.

11/20/07 22:50

LegendaryAngelWngs

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RE: GW2

You use the arrowss? How do you exactly use barckets keys? Cause I am not understanding them at all.

11/20/07 22:50

Skittle Cody

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You use the arrowss? How do you exactly use barckets keys? Cause I am not understanding them at all.

I do not use the arrows. I use W A S D keys. That would be hard and make me cramp.
Bracket keys? Don't use those. I just click my ally in the pary menu.

Sorry if I am confusing you.

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11/20/07 22:51

mr47

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RE: GW2

no one uses the arrow keys to move...you use WASD keys. and who uses the c brackets? but if you do, you use them to cycle through enemies i thought? if you are monk...just click the names in the party window you want to heal...

11/20/07 22:52

LegendaryAngelWngs

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RE: GW2

Oh..you use those to walk with. I mean like targeting the alleys.

Edited: Nevermind no one understands me, lol.

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11/20/07 22:53

Kanna

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RE: GW2

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It was on guild wiki about guild wars 2. Um..dude have you actually tried being a monk and doing that way? It's not easy. XD

I always use the Party window. =/ I have my skills set to the Number Pad and Number Row. And I use the Mouse to click away. :P Its not that hard really.

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11/20/07 22:56

Kanna

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RE: GW2

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I use Arrow Keys :D

Rawr!

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11/20/07 23:00

LegendaryAngelWngs

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RE: GW2

Okay..listen.. I use the mouse to run and heal alright? They're disabling the mouse where you can't walk anymore with it. I find it harder to use the arrows or the wasd. To move while clicking on a person name then to heal them.

11/20/07 23:00

mr47

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RE: GW2

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I use Arrow Keys :D

Rawr!

sorry. you are the first person ive ever seen that uses arrow keys, lol.

xD

11/20/07 23:07

E T E R N A L

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you walk around with the mouse by clicking the ground to move, and select allies w/o the window by the mouse, sounds un-nessessarily hard imo.

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11/20/07 23:21

Dragon Warrioralpha

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RE: GW2

W A S D > *clicky clicky* and Up Down Left Right!

=)

11/20/07 23:36

Rogue

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RE: GW2

Click to move is faster and more accurate and makes you a billion times harder to hit when you're kiting. Trust me from a warriors perspective. I don't have numbers to back this up, but when you're kiting with WASD it's alot easier for me to blow you up. I'm not sure why, but it's true. Click to move>WASD.

Also, where is this information from? I'd expect the controls to be able to be setup however you want, and the interface to be fully customizable. Just like it is now.

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11/20/07 23:41

cswella

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RE: GW2

Guild Wars 2 without healing monks? You'll have to show me the link before I believe that.

As for the movement/healing, I'm afraid I don't understand your situation.

I use the WASD keys for moving forward/back/right/left.

Mouse is used to click partymembers.

The 12345678 keys on top of the letter blocks are my spells. 1 being the skill I use most.

Like said above, your method of playing seems overcomplicated.

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11/21/07 00:03

Teh Real Jamie

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RE: GW2

change your avatar please damn....

Monks are not being nerfed in GW2 sure the protection line is being removed and clicking on the floor to walk? how does that effect my monking

11/21/07 00:23

Teh Real Jamie

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RE: GW2

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/agree when im kiting in HA/GvG i ALWAYS use click to ovoid

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11/21/07 00:27

mriswith

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RE: GW2

I prefer WASD keys since for me personally it gives more sense of character control. However; i use the QRX keys aswell for kiting; turning etc O.o

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11/21/07 01:39

mwpeck

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RE: GW2

If you find it difficult to use W A S D setup, go play a First Person Shooter game for a week, with standard W A S D controls. I guarentee you will find it much easier to get around.

As rogue said though, clicking is much more accurate, but at the same time, its slower. Clicking around to move requires you to take your mouse away from the party menu, meaning you wont be able to get back to click on a dying ally as fast as if you used W A S D and kept your mouse in the party menu.

And as to Rogue, my guess on why its easier to hit someone kiting with W A S D....when you click, the game is send direct coordinates of where your character is in the game world. With W A S D, there are no coordinates, instead you basically tell the server "I am running this direction" then when you stop, you tell the server "I am no longer running". Therefore, changing direction or anything always has a little bit of lag when compared to clicking to move, as the server has to update which way the player is running instead of just saying the player is moving to X Y.

Granted no one but Anet knows if that is basically true or not, it makes sense as your character sometimes runs forward a second after you stop holding the button, then teleports back a step.

PS Mouse-Clickers: Click and hold the mouse button on the ground at the bottom of your characters feet, watch as your character gets confused running back and fourth.


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11/21/07 02:08

anan saman

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RE: GW2

btw, you can stiull walk with mouse, just go to options and enable it

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11/21/07 02:13

Yol

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RE: GW2

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sorry. you are the first person ive ever seen that uses arrow keys, lol.

As a left-handed person, I find the arrow keys easier to use for moving the characters than the WASD keys. My mouse is on the left side of the keyboard so my right hand is naturally closer to the arrows.

Back to topic - the game is months away, and you only have to look at the betas for GW to see how different it was from the finished release version. I'm sure GW2 will have assignable keys, a party window and a skill bar....what else does a monk need to be able to target players and cast spells on them?

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11/21/07 06:12

odin60

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RE: GW2

I agree with AngelWings that this will probably cause some players to leave Guild Wars. One being my girlfriend, she is a casual game player and liked Guild Wars because of point and click movement (she only plays Monk as well as is a lefty so arrow keys if she had to). She doesn't care for keyboard movement that much, and I have to say it is not my favorite way of moving either.

To remove click movement just because of climbing and swimming seems strange in my eyes. They must not think thats how alot of players play Guild Wars and maybe alot never use mouse movement. I wouldn't even care if you had to switch to keyboard just when climbing or swimming but it is suprising they can't just figure a way to do climbing and swimming with a mouse.

11/21/07 07:50

Echo_Of_Doom

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RE: GW2

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Guild_Wars_2
"Control system is going to be significantly changed, in particular mouse movement in the form "click to move" will be removed from the game. Guild Wars 2 will introduce a z-axis to the game which will allow characters to jump over obstacles."
there it is

11/21/07 08:39

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