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thaskippy
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Ofcourse i follow the rules of Anet and the EULA but why are you not allowed to trade/share accounts ?
'Cause when you buy the game it becomes your game so shouldn't you be allowed to do whatever you want with it ? And i don't see a reason for not allowing account sharing, other than that Anet will lose money if people will share accounts instead of buying their own. When it comes to game as Runescape i agree there should be a rule against account sharing because that gives an unfair advantage because you can grind more all together, but when it comes to a game like Guild Wars, which doesn't revolve around grinding(at least they say so), it isn't giving an unfair advantage over other players.
I hate it when rules revolve solely around money..
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| 12/08/07 13:47 |
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Tha Golden Warrior
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bah if u share accounts with friends and dont talk about it in-game then anet can't do anything because there's no evidence and impossible to trace it... i've done it before :)
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| 12/08/07 14:01 |
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| QUOTE | | dont talk about it in-game then anet can't do anything because there's no evidence and impossible to trace it... i've done it before :) |
That's pretty ironic...
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| 12/08/07 14:24 |
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Tha Golden Warrior
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this aint in-game
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| 12/08/07 14:26 |
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maddog199
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What about IP-adresses?
IF they start to check on it and they see 3 different IP-adresses, and those 3 keep returning around a set of time?
Impossible? Hardly
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| 12/08/07 15:13 |
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Mordakaida
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| QUOTE | What about IP-adresses?
IF they start to check on it and they see 3 different IP-adresses, and those 3 keep returning around a set of time? |
If it is in the same town like neighbors then you can say you just went to your friends house to play.
Anet tries to get around right of first sell by saying you are licensing their product under certain terms. Auto Cad did this and got sued over it. In all practical reasons you can if you fight it in the courts but who has that kind of money. :/
I for one believe firmly that once you buy a product it is yours to what what you wish. If I no longer wish to play I should have the right to sell my account as long as I delete guild wars off my comp. If I wish to play again I must purchase another copy. Though I tend to just write down my account information and save it for later just in case I wish to play again.
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| 12/08/07 15:37 |
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| QUOTE | What about IP-adresses?
IF they start to check on it and they see 3 different IP-adresses, and those 3 keep returning around a set of time? |
That could lead to some undeserved bans imo
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| 12/08/07 15:41 |
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I think they say you shouldn't share accounts with someone because they don't want you whining about how your friend stole everything and you want it back etc.
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| 12/08/07 18:02 |
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| QUOTE | | I think they say you shouldn't share accounts with someone because they don't want you whining about how your friend stole everything and you want it back etc. |
...And also because they hope your friend buys the game so they can make some more cash. Seriously guys, A-net is not a charity corporation, they need and want as much money as they can get. ^_^
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| 12/08/07 18:12 |
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Exofluke
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Why is their a rule against trading or even selling?
I see Guild Wars like Magic The Gathering cards. Eventually I'll probably tire of GW and want to sell my account. But finding a buyer that isn't local is going to be difficult because of the whole "trust" issue. Making sure no one gets ripped off on either sides of the trade.
I have two accounts and both accounts have all campaigns with the exception of GW:EN. Several level 20's...much time spent into both accounts...etc.
So eventually I would want to sell atleast one of the accounts to someone....HMmmmmm..Ah well...
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| 12/08/07 19:47 |
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Jamnog
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If your account sharing then the same ip cropping up wont alert anyone to that fact as its a single account appearing again and again with the same ip.
If your connection sharing then anet would not turn around and ban... your allowed more than one account per household or per office lan or per internet caffe. no I don't think checking the ip would be something on anets list of things to do. if your account sharing. acros lots of different ip addresses then you wouldn't both be allowed to go on at the same time as each other anyway.
It might make anet take a look if 100 ip addresses show up on the same acount that would be pirating and absurd type of pirating where 100 people in different locations share the same account and take it in turns to play. If you and your brother want to play gw on the same account then you are possibly doing anet out of the cost of one game but you lose the ability to both play at the same time. anet would like to have sold two copies of the game they are protecting revenue with the elua. I don't think they would enforce it to that level or less people would buy gw2 as two people banned from that one account would not buy the second game and would not think much of anet.
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| 12/08/07 20:24 |
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cswella
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Anet would not touch any account for switching IPs. Too many people moving around legitimately. I myself had GW on a desktop and a laptop that I used in another state.
They have the rule in place because it's just easier to handle.
If they didn't say anything about it, it would be much more prevalent and soon it would kill Guild Wars.
How would it kill GW? :
-If people are constantly selling their accounts, no money flows to Guild Wars. Pretty soon the cost of a game is spread over 3-4 people.
-The game would die down, due to newer players getting maxed accounts. They never learn the way they should and the loss of experienced players would cause disinterest.
-Similar to the last point, having a maxed account would lose power and respect. Since you could almost count on the top accounts to be newbish. Thus the goal of ranks and such wouldn't be as glamorous.
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| 12/08/07 20:40 |
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sleep_FTW
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i wonder if that entails "giving up" your account to someone. cause my friend quit and gave me his account, so now i can have a rit and para and save ~20 dollars.
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| 12/08/07 20:42 |
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| QUOTE | | i wonder if that entails "giving up" your account to someone. cause my friend quit and gave me his account, so now i can have a rit and para and save ~20 dollars. |
yeah what about inheriting an account?
my 2 friends that got me into GW quit for WoW and gave me their passwords, as have other players to get them festival hats when they couldn't be on, etc.
imo, probably the biggest reason is to cut down on complaints about items/characters ripped off/deleted complaints.
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| 12/08/07 21:16 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | I think they say you shouldn't share accounts with someone because they don't want you whining about how your friend stole everything and you want it back etc. |
...And also because they hope your friend buys the game so they can make some more cash. Seriously guys, A-net is not a charity corporation, they need and want as much money as they can get. ^_^ |
Actually, From what Anet has told me, that is incorrect......Harrow and I have access to the same exact chapters, yet when this question came up in previous posts, I emailed Anet asking what they think of two people with access to the same stuff, sharing accounts. They basically said even though we both have the same stuff, we should not share accounts. Which leads my to think they do that strictly so you cant whine to them when your "friend" jacks the stuff off your account.
On another note, the reason they dont allow selling of accounts is also because you can get scammed real easy.
Lets say you sell your account (just the name and password) to a friend for 20 bucks. You then go to Anet, and say your account was hacked, and send them a picture (through scan or digital camera) of your original access keys, viola, you made $20 and kept your GW account, with a friend who just thinks the account was hacked.
Now, granted you likely wouldnt do this to a friend, but you could very easily do this to someone you dont know, with little risk of anything bad coming out of it, unless they have proof of the sale and try to sue you.
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| 12/08/07 21:54 |
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'Cause when you buy the game it becomes your game |
The EULA states something along the lines that you are allowed to use the service (aka the game) through an account you bought. but that account is still property of Anet... Or something like that.
Also: With GW accounts you can also get an unfair advantage, pvp unlocks etc.
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| 12/09/07 03:54 |
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You no what the best way to explin this.What if u worked hard for everything on your account and u have alot of time and money saved up on your account and your best friend asked to make a chacter on your account seeing that he is a good friend and that he wont do any harn that you know of.SO he goes and takes your account name and pw and decided Hell I have crappy armmor and weapons and such abd u have all that money saved up on your account and he wipes you clean of everything u had on it.So the next tiem u log on to your account u bare and have notihng on it and your friend has really nice armmor and stuff.
Witch is why U should never ever trade or share accounts with any one.
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| 12/09/07 04:28 |
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Tha Golden Warrior
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| QUOTE | | Lets say you sell your account (just the name and password) to a friend for 20 bucks. You then go to Anet, and say your account was hacked, and send them a picture (through scan or digital camera) of your original access keys, viola, you made $20 and kept your GW account, with a friend who just thinks the account was hacked. |
that's what everything was about on ebay a while ago with all those perfect accounts (tiger+fow armors+perf titles etc)... people were so greedy in need of high ranked accounts that they often bid 500+ on a single account. they successfully bought it and played on it for a few weeks, then when they had loads of cash + items and had gained more fame on it, the vendor would just take the account back.
i know a guy who bought one of these accounts, he played on it 24/7 and had gained about ~8k fame, he then all of a sudden just lost the account after a couple of monthes. u wouldn't believe how mad he was.... i told him that's what he deserved...and since that day i'm on his ignore, lol
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| 12/09/07 05:27 |
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I am pretty sure another reason why A - net does not allow account trading is because the actual avatar thingy is property of A net. And if you were selling accounts then it was like a business that they are paying for.
E.g. you could keep making account, training them up and selling them making a profit without having to set up a business or anything like that. SO that is another reason why a net don't like people trading acounts.
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| 12/09/07 05:36 |
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| QUOTE | | 'Cause when you buy the game it becomes your game so shouldn't you be allowed to do whatever you want with it |
its not officialy your game, you own the rights to play thats all.
and about the idea of tracking IPs to see if there different, what if you have two homes? or use ur account while on hols etc then they coud theoreticaly ban you for that so that wouldnt work :)
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| 12/09/07 08:02 |
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| QUOTE | What about IP-adresses?
IF they start to check on it and they see 3 different IP-adresses, and those 3 keep returning around a set of time? |
Also some people (like myself) have an IP that changes randomly from time to time.
Perhaps I play GW on Grandmas computer over the river and through the woods, and on my computer at home, and at my friend Roberto's house in Mexico.
Perfectly legal.and would show multiple IPs.
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