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Allanon6666

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Monk Weapons

I was wondering whether it is better to go w/ a wand and an offhand or a staff for a healing monk. I have about 10-15k to spend on this btw.

12/12/07 11:39

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RE: Monk Weapons

Personally, I like the wand/off hand option. Boost on energy and boost the HSR and the HCT

12/12/07 11:43

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RE: Monk Weapons

For my monk, I use a Sword with +5 energy and 20% longer enchant and with a focus, and that works good for me! I would recommend a spear tho, attack is always good if your not busy monking.
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12/12/07 11:44

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RE: Monk Weapons

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A sword for a healing monk? All I can say to that is...HUH???

I prefer wand/offhand, But there is nothing wrong with a good staff.

12/12/07 11:52

retro77

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RE: Monk Weapons

Some use a melee weapon because a wand wrapping for 20% enchants doesnt exist.

12/12/07 11:57

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RE: Monk Weapons

when i'm healer i always use a 20 20 wand and 20 20 focus

12/12/07 11:58

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A sword for a healing monk? All I can say to that is...HUH???

I prefer wand/offhand, But there is nothing wrong with a good staff.

All I can say to you nub, is HUH? =P

Well, some people like to use a sword/spear and a shield because of the armor bonus the shield provides. Even with nothing specced into the attribute, you still get +8arm. And when you can get the essential +5 energy and 20% ench, some people prefer to miss out on the +30hp mod for the +8arm. There were some mathematics on it that showed that for low armored targets, even +5 armor will be better than a 30hp mod in the long run

12/12/07 12:07

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A sword for a healing monk? All I can say to that is...HUH???

I prefer wand/offhand, But there is nothing wrong with a good staff.

Hehe I presume you didn't monk a lot? I use an elemental sword with +5 nrg and +@0% enchantments and some focus that I found who had +12 nrg (req 9). Didn't really have the time/money to buy a good one. I like caster weapons better than wands, since you already have the HCT HSR on your offhand (not the one I have now, but you get the point).

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12/12/07 12:17

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A sword for a healing monk? All I can say to that is...HUH???

I prefer wand/offhand, But there is nothing wrong with a good staff.

True, I don't monk alot, it doesnt suit my nature. I like to kill things, not save them :P
That makes sense about the 20% enchant though.

12/12/07 12:21

duskman

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RE: Monk Weapons

here is the staff I use on my monk...

BTW, I am looking for a perfect +30hp staff wrapping of fortitude and a perfect +15Energy Seize the day Inion if anyone happens to be looking to sell one.

I use a Healer's Boon healing build, so that takes care of my casting time...

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12/12/07 12:23

Blazings

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I use heal/prot build with SoA/RoF/SB etc. It helps when they last 20% longer =]

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12/12/07 12:23

duskman

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Thanks, I've been lurking around here for quite some time...just haven't posted that much.

12/12/07 12:29

Allanon6666

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RE: Monk Weapons

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here is the staff I use on my monk...

BTW, I am looking for a perfect +30hp staff wrapping of fortitude and a perfect +15Energy Seize the day Inion if anyone happens to be looking to sell one.

um... your link didn't work right, lol.

and thanks for all the quick replies everyone. If anyone has any recommended greens, that be cool. And I think that the +20enchant won't make much difference since I don't use many enchants.

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12/12/07 12:30

duskman

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My link didn't work right???

I see it when I view the page.

12/12/07 12:33

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RE: Monk Weapons

well i would love to have a perfect wand and offhand but i just cant find the upgrade components to make a 20/20 of each. There isnt much better than having all of your spells cast quicker and have more power almost every other cast. Staves are nice cause they are cheeper and easier to make(plus they can have and enchant mod) but you just cant get the same effect with them. Wand and offhand is better imo if u can afford it.

12/12/07 12:46

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well i would love to have a perfect wand and offhand but i just cant find the upgrade components to make a 20/20 of each.

You can craft 20/20 wands and offhands from Gertrud in Vasburg Armory on the Kurzick side of Factions after doing the Eternal Grove mission. Each one costs 5k + crafting materials. I've been using a Fire version of these weapons on my ele for a very long time. I also use Healing versions on my monk when I decide to play her. I really like having dual 20/20's, but it really depends on the character profession and build I'm using.

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12/12/07 12:54

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RE: Monk Weapons

I must admit i prefer the look of Staff's rather than wands and offhands. Is there actually a statistical benefit to using them than a staff, or is it purely aesthetic? Sorry if that seems an obvious question to some.

@ Duskman, check out www.gwauctions.org. It's where i buy most of my upgrade components. Good Prices too.

12/12/07 13:33

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I use a 40/40 set for healing, a 40/20 +20% set for prots, a spear and shield set for when I'm being spiked, and a +30/-2 set.

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12/12/07 14:14

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RE: Monk Weapons

I'm using +5 energy 20% ench Colossial Scimitar and Byzzrs Benediction (my friend gave me byzzrs, so i use that as i don't wanna waste money on another thing..), and i think that works good :P

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12/12/07 14:22

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I use a 40/40 set for healing, a 40/20 +20% set for prots, a spear and shield set for when I'm being spiked, and a +30/-2 set.

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12/12/07 14:31

Allanon6666

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RE: Monk Weapons

um, at the risk of sounding like a noob (I've only really played ranger till now), what's 40/40 or 40/20 or any of that mean?

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12/12/07 15:29

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RE: Monk Weapons

my fav has to be - crippling sword of enchs with +5 energy and focus/ shield

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12/12/07 16:19

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RE: Monk Weapons

IMO staffs suck. Spear and shield gives more armor, Spear and offhand gives a balance of health = to a staff and 17 energy which is 3 less than a staff (But so what, 30 hp > 3 energy), even wand offhand gives more as a high set (+42)

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12/12/07 16:25

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12/12/07 16:26

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um, at the risk of sounding like a noob (I've only really played ranger till now), what's 40/40 or 40/20 or any of that mean?

40/40 is basically combining the 20% Halves Casting Time and 20% Halves Skill recharge on a wand and offhand. So, when someone says 40/40, they really mean they have a 20% HCT / 20% HSR wand and a 20% HCT / 20% HSR focus item.

For the 40/20/20%, it's a very similar way of describing a staff and it's mods. There will be 2x 20% HCT, 1x 20% HSR, and 1 Enchantments last 20% longer mod on it. Since a wand/focus combination doesn't have the option for the 20% Enchanting mod, that's why people use the 40/20/20% staves. They will sacrifice the 20% chance of a quicker recharge time to make an enchantment they cast last 20% longer.

Also in this thread, people have been talking about using other items on casters such as spears, swords and shields. The mods these items offer just allow another level of customization for what a particular player wants for a build they're running or a way in which they like playing a character.

I'm sure others could give a more in depth explanation of atypical items for a caster, so I will leave it to them to explain.

12/12/07 16:37

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RE: Monk Weapons

why would u have a non perfect seize the day on a staff lol. Seize the day is only good for high energy sets when you have energy issues. Otherwise seize the day will cause energy issues. If you have 20k I'd say just get a sword/axe/spear and an off-hand. I used a caster pyroclastic and a divine favor focus for monking in HM and stuffs. Worked good enough for me since I'm too lazy to spend money on a 40/40 set for heal and prot.

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12/12/07 16:39

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RE: Monk Weapons

what is 40/40?

all i can think of is 20/20 sundering... but that aint 40/40

12/12/07 16:49

Tha Golden Warrior

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RE: Monk Weapons

its 20% hct and 20% hrt

12/12/07 17:03

Allanon6666

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mkay, ty for clearing that up. I think it's time to go check gwauctions, lol

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12/12/07 18:13

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I use a 40/40 set for healing, a 40/20 +20% set for prots, a spear and shield set for when I'm being spiked, and a +30/-2 set.

Same with me. And I saw some questions about what these sets were/why would you use these sets, so here goes my explanation:

WHAT they are... I figured this would be best represented by an example picture:

WHY these sets...

Set #1 (Green): One handed weapon (sword, axe, spear) with a -5 energy inion, +30 health mod, and by preference a crippling mod. The crippling mod is the least important, however it does help if you run Mo/A in pvp with return. As long as it is not zealous or vamp, anything works. Also, a shield with -5(20%) inion and +30 health... other shields should also be in your inventory with +10 armor v. X. This set is for when you are being attacked, energy denied, or spiked. I try to stay on this set as often as possible as to provide the most health and survivability. IMO +30 health on the weapon is better than +5 armor now due to Shell Shock being used a lot in spikes. Shell shock has no effect unless you have that armor buff in which case the +30 would be more helpful. However, +5 armor or +30 health is up to you to chose. As often as you can, when you are about to die (like switching to this set while being hit with a lot of damage) always to switch to this set. Res sig and other res skills bring you back with a percentage of your total energy. If you die on this set, you can switch to your normal energy sets (#2 and #3 below) and have more energy available than if you died on one of those sets to start with.

Set #2 (Purple'ish): This is referred to as a 40/40 set. The 40/40 set gives you enough energy (nearly 50 with no attunements and no radiants... which you shouldn't use anyways) and allows you to get your spells off without interrupts. Word of Healing and Heal Party are often used with 3/4 second and 2 second casts respectively. Rangers and mesmers, in PvP, will interrupt Heal Party 100% of the time (well, they should be able to) if you don't have a 40/40 set. Although hard for rangers, interrupting WoH is fairly easy for a competent mesmer (again if a 40/40 set is not used). 40/40 not only avoids interrupts but gets the recharge lowered occasionally, especially helpful while your team is taking pressure.

Set #3 (Yellow): 40/20/20 set, and yes it should be PROT based. There is no need for set #3 if you are not running any prot skills, however I would not recommend this. Again the casting is important to avoid interrupts on spells like guardian, shield of absorption, and aegis. Many prot spells (those same three being key ones) are enchantments and benefit greatly from the 20% enchanting mod on the staff. This set can possibly be replaced with a +5 energy, +20 enchant weapon and 20/20 prot offhand however it is less likely for the fast cast to kick in which is why I use a staff.

Set #4 (Blue): This is the 30/-2 set (the offhand can be HC as shown or +30 health, whichever you prefer... I tend to switch back and forth between which one I like depending on my bar [i.e. I think I always used HC with LoD before its nerf]). Almost always, your team will be under some sort of pressure. One of the keys to good monking is to learn how to conserve your energy. Protting a target to avoid over healing is one good example. However, no matter how good you are, there is always the chance that your energy will hit zero on a normal set (sets #2 and #3). At this point, if healing/protting is needed, switch to this set, cast a spell or two, and then switch back to your low set immediately (set #1). If you are close to death, it may be better to let yourself die and be resed on set #1 rather than trying to save yourself on this set. If the other monk can't save you, hope a res comes quick. If you die on this set, it will be very hard to regain energy as you are only resed with a fraction of your energy.

And a final note: I hope this made sense/helped at least someone... and hopefully there were not too many spelling mistakes. If anything is unclear, feel free to ask or PM me in game.

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12/12/07 18:38

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