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Awhile back, I made a post with an idea for the Epic Villian Archtypes with a back story to explain them. I've thought about it and realized that what I had was a different version of the Kheldian Epics that are available to heros with some variation, and I got to thinking " what villians want is thier own epics, not a copy aand paste of what the heros have". So I did a little bit of work and here's what I came up with.
Basic background is that the ATs are living spells that were created to fight in a war and over time gained sentience. After the war, they wanted thier freedom but thier creators denied them that and sealed them away in another dimension. During Rularuus own dimensional conquest he found these living spells and enslaved them to do his bidding, and when he was done with them, placed them in a prison in the Shadow Shard. After a time, two of the spells, one light one dark, escaped and made thier way to the City of X dimension where they came across Archnos scientists. They told Recluse of what they found, and of course Recluse is interested in these beings for the power they have and offers them a deal; in exchange for their powers to fight against the heros he will give them thier freedom. Of course they agree, and a huge expedition into the Shadow Shard is mounted to free them. After they are free, the spell beings seek out hosts that are compatible with them so that they can serve thier new master and conquer this new world.
The ATs are:
Light Guardian- a powerful being of energy that uses it's abilities to heal and empower it's allies and uses energy based attacks to blind and damage it's foes. All of its attacks lower the accuracy of those that are hit. Primary attacks are mostly ranged and secondary is mostly heals and team buffs, with a few self buffs available.
Dark Warrior- a skilled being of negative energy that has powers to protect its allies with various dark shields that deflect attacks and attacks it's enemies negative energy attacks that eats away at a foes resistance so they take more damage from each attack. Primary attacks are a mix of range and melee attacks while the secondary powers are a variety of shields that deflect attacks and some self buffing abilities.
Both ATs have access to 'pets' that can be summoned to aid on combat, but can only as one type, and can only summon two at a time. These pets can be upgraded two times.
LGs have an energy based pet that fires energy attacks. First upgrade gives it another attack and a minor regen aura. Second upgrade gives it a third attack that has a cone pattern and a minor recovery aura. Both auras are very small bonus, 10% regen and 6% recovery
DWs have negative energy pets that fire neg. energy attacks. First upgrade is another attack and an AoE shield that gives defense to smashing and lethal damage. Second upgrade is a cone pattern attack and another AoE shield that gives defense to Fire, Cold, Energy, and Negative Energy attacks.
The ATs also have shapeshifting forms, but they only share one type. Each has an exlusive form that complements thier element. Both have a Brute like form that gives them strong melee attacks and good resistance to attacks and status effects like hold, sleep, and disorient. Light Guardians get a corruptor type form that has ranged attacks that do great damage and a few heals to help allies, though not as good as they human form. Dark Warriors tranform into Stalkers, that has hide, assassins strike, and has excellent defense to all attacks, but they lose the ability to give thier allies shields. While in any of these forms though, they can not summon or command any of thier pets, and if they transform while their pets are out they will be immiediatly dismissed.
That;s it ina nutshell, let me know what you think.
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| 01/01/08 13:47 |
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Dreamwvr
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Well I'd certainly be interested in playing these new types.
Pinnacle
Shadomancer - lvl 40 dark/dark cor
Krimson Krush - Lvl 50 SS/Inv brute
Ice Angel- - Lvl 35 Ice/Nrg blaster
Protector
Blackberry- - lvl 40 plant/thorn dom
Pheobe Nix - Lvl 35 fire/fire brute
Boojum- - Lvl 35 crab soldier
Ebon Widow- - Lvl 26 widow
Neo Slash - Lvl 39 BS/regen scrapper
Guardian
Dark Rumour - lvl 37 DM/SR stalker
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| 01/02/08 06:57 |
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Personally, one thing I'd like to see in the way of an Epic would be a type that is defineed by versatility. You'd have melee and ranged damage mixed with some holds or immobilizations. You'd have a pet you could summon probably around level 18 and you'd have some sort of defensive armor powers as well and perhaps something that debuffs enemies as well. Make it so that this particular AT has a few elements of all the other AT's mixed in so that it doesn't have any specialization but can do a little bit of everything.
Pinnacle
Shadomancer - lvl 40 dark/dark cor
Krimson Krush - Lvl 50 SS/Inv brute
Ice Angel- - Lvl 35 Ice/Nrg blaster
Protector
Blackberry- - lvl 40 plant/thorn dom
Pheobe Nix - Lvl 35 fire/fire brute
Boojum- - Lvl 35 crab soldier
Ebon Widow- - Lvl 26 widow
Neo Slash - Lvl 39 BS/regen scrapper
Guardian
Dark Rumour - lvl 37 DM/SR stalker
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| 01/05/08 19:24 |
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| QUOTE | | Personally, one thing I'd like to see in the way of an Epic would be a type that is defineed by versatility. You'd have melee and ranged damage mixed with some holds or immobilizations. You'd have a pet you could summon probably around level 18 and you'd have some sort of defensive armor powers as well and perhaps something that debuffs enemies as well. Make it so that this particular AT has a few elements of all the other AT's mixed in so that it doesn't have any specialization but can do a little bit of everything. |
So a CoV PB/WS?
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| 01/06/08 01:32 |
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That's not surprising is it?
PB/WS are Epics. It'd be not a far fetched idea to have Epic villains set up along the same lines.
The AT-mix isn't exclusive to the OP's idea either. One thing I don't like about it, but doubt it's solvable as it's rather inherent to the game system, is that much like Corrupters there's this rather benign heal/buff allies thing.
It really annoys me no end that Corrupters can buff and/or heal everything in sight but can't take benefit of their abilities themselves, except by accident through underpowered PBAoE effects. Way to altruistic for a Villain if you ask me.
Additionally, in the OP's background I find Recluce a bit too altruistic as well. Freeing potentially dangerous creatures for aid against heroes without enforcing some kind of loyalty? Hello! Read up on your Machiavelli please :-)
This would effectively mean creating a third Supers faction. One good, two evil. Having them enslaved to Recluce in some "real'fashion would make them less appealing to most players though.
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| 01/06/08 01:41 |
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| QUOTE |
That's not surprising is it?
PB/WS are Epics. It'd be not a far fetched idea to have Epic villains set up along the same lines.
The AT-mix isn't exclusive to the OP's idea either. One thing I don't like about it, but doubt it's solvable as it's rather inherent to the game system, is that much like Corrupters there's this rather benign heal/buff allies thing.
It really annoys me no end that Corrupters can buff and/or heal everything in sight but can't take benefit of their abilities themselves, except by accident through underpowered PBAoE effects. Way to altruistic for a Villain if you ask me.
Additionally, in the OP's background I find Recluce a bit too altruistic as well. Freeing potentially dangerous creatures for aid against heroes without enforcing some kind of loyalty? Hello! Read up on your Machiavelli please :-)
This would effectively mean creating a third Supers faction. One good, two evil. Having them enslaved to Recluce in some "real'fashion would make them less appealing to most players though. |
Well, like I said, this was only an idea I had. But anyway, I made the story this way cuz I personally didn't like the idea of Positrons to make villians do a TF to get thier Epics, where all heros had to do was get to lvl 50. But if you want to go down that road, then how does this rewrite suite you:
Recluse talks with the spells beings that escape and sees it as final test for his Destined Soldiers that want to aquire more power. He has a portal set up to go into the Chantry area of the Shadow Shard, and have the Destined Ones free a Sentient Spell of thier own, and bring it back.
Is this a better conclusion?
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CoV
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Burn Angel- LVL 50 Fire/Radiation Corruptor
Shadow Glaive- LVL 34 Dark Melee/Ninjitsu Stalker
Power without Skill is wasted
Skill without Direction is pointless
Direction without Power is useless
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| 01/06/08 02:20 |
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BTW, who was Machiavelli again? He sounds familiar.
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Nova Knight Zero-LVL50 Energy/Energy Blaster
Night Wyvern- LVL50 Kinetics/ Psionic Blast Defender
Dusk Dancer- LVL 34 Dual Blades/ Super Reflexes Scrapper
CoV
Neko Kage- LVL50 Martial Arts/Dark Armor Stalker
Burn Angel- LVL 50 Fire/Radiation Corruptor
Shadow Glaive- LVL 34 Dark Melee/Ninjitsu Stalker
Power without Skill is wasted
Skill without Direction is pointless
Direction without Power is useless
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| 01/06/08 02:22 |
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| QUOTE | | BTW, who was Machiavelli again? He sounds familiar. |
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| 01/06/08 02:26 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | BTW, who was Machiavelli again? He sounds familiar. |
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Interesting, his philosophy is along the same lines as mine that sometimes good people must commit evil acts in order to accomplish a greater purpose, but must be careful to control themselves that they themselves must not become evil.
If this is Recluses mindset, he must be doing alot of thsoe evil acts for greater good.
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Night Wyvern- LVL50 Kinetics/ Psionic Blast Defender
Dusk Dancer- LVL 34 Dual Blades/ Super Reflexes Scrapper
CoV
Neko Kage- LVL50 Martial Arts/Dark Armor Stalker
Burn Angel- LVL 50 Fire/Radiation Corruptor
Shadow Glaive- LVL 34 Dark Melee/Ninjitsu Stalker
Power without Skill is wasted
Skill without Direction is pointless
Direction without Power is useless
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| 01/06/08 12:03 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | BTW, who was Machiavelli again? He sounds familiar. |
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He was a ruler in Italy around the time of Da Vinci. He came up with a lot of precetps about the best ways to rule men. His most commonly used ideal was that you should get your people to follow you out of love. But if they wouldn't love you, then make them fear you. It works just as well.
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| 01/07/08 12:21 |
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