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sado0og

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GW or WOW

hi all....

I used to play world of warcraft for 4 months...

i like it and dislike it.....

yesterday i was in mmorpg.com to find nice and free online game...

i found guild wars n i like it from preview in wikipedia...

before i buy the game

could u tell me what is the best !!

GW of WOW

if so WHY ?

and tell me about GW mre plz

thnx

01/02/08 21:09

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RE: GW or WOW

To say that GW is better than WOW or vice versa is like saying vanilla ice cream is better than chocolate, it's all about preference. If you had the chance to try both out, make the decision based on what YOU think is the more enjoyable of the two. If not, get a trial of WOW and GW, then decide.

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01/02/08 21:25

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RE: GW or WOW

WOW is a little cartoony you know? extreley fake, (like guildwars but atleast things like 25% real lol) and in guildwars idk... its addictive when you get good

01/02/08 21:26

tryops grath

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RE: GW or WOW

like thedarkarsenal said its based on you feeling to it and saying one is better will start a war with everyone but GW is a game mostly dependent on quests/missions (no surprise) i heard in wow 100gold is a lot in gw u have 1000g being a lot to people. in gw you have a skill bar with 8 skills to choose to put in there from the millions u have health goes to 510 if not beefed up with runes and stuff and the lvl cap of 20 there is a short deion (d-e-s-c-r-i-p-t-i-o-n) of gw :)

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01/02/08 21:39

tryops grath

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RE: GW or WOW

there is that deion again

01/02/08 21:40

Chrisworld

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RE: GW or WOW

Its all in preference, as long as you still like gw or never played it and play WoW your fine but like my friends who once played gw and moved to WoW-Land If you completely destroy its reputation, kick it to the curb and bash a game that you once loved to play, then you suck and i hate you.

BUT if you wanna play WoW go ahead its not horrible and its all in prefs.

01/02/08 21:46

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RE: GW or WOW

By speaking to my friend who plays WoW...WoW is for idiots lol. Doesn't take much brain power by what I've heard. Things are overpowered in that game and one class can dominate, I heard it was the rogue. In This game, everything is pretty close to balanced. Nothing truely dominates and it takes skills, knowlage of your build and area to be good.

For balance
GW > WoW

For Weapons
GW > WoW

For Graphics
GW > WoW

If you like to level up and grind, WoW is for you.

If you like to just jump right into the action and be judged by your skill rather than your character lvl, GW is for you.

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01/02/08 21:58

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RE: GW or WOW

I might also add my 15 a month is probably gonna be goin into Everquest 2.

But yes GW dominates over all, its a different game and offers an easier way to play and just more unique.

So go for GW its always free, just have to buy the game.

01/02/08 22:09

Rogue

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RE: GW or WOW

WOW PvE is better, but GW PvP is in a completely different category than WoW.

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01/02/08 22:12

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RE: GW or WOW

are you aware this is probably the most biased place ever?

GW has...

well it has...

uh...

iunno. im tired.

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01/02/08 22:17

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RE: GW or WOW

This being a guildwars fansite you might expect the answer to be guildwars is better then wow. Unfortunately I would have to say that Darth Vader would beat Chuck Noris hands down. however chuck gets the ladies might wanna consider that.

Have a look at some screen shots. Read some reviews. If you like wow you probably will like guildwars.

edit : just read your post again you don't like wow there is a possibility you wont like gw

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01/03/08 00:27

Zephyr_Storm

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RE: GW or WOW

Graphics:
GW wins

PvP:
GW wins

PvE:
Kind of a toss up. Both are pretty equal (unless you figure in lvl grinding, then GW definitely wins...grinding to lvl 70=ugh :P).

Cost:
GW definitely wins

Community:
GW wins

In my opinion go GW (but as someone said before, it's kind of biased around here :P). But you should really just go with whatever one you like best and not what we tell you. Cheers ^_^

01/03/08 00:34

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RE: GW or WOW

GW is mainly for the PvP. PvE is okay but after a while you will find yourself a Farmer or a PvP junkie like me. This is one game where you can play how you want to play it. Pick your poison.

Everyone here being this is a GW fansite will tell you GW is better. WoW has a lot to offer. Pve is Vast. Lost to do. But just like City Of Villians, I tried the 14-day demo and was like, " Man, this crap is boring". I Just lost intrest quick. Played Quake 4 for a bit, Popped in GW jumped into an Alliance Battle and HA after that. Farmed whatever i felt like And was Done. See if you can get your hand on a demo or somethin. Before i bought the First Gw, I watched my roommate play for a month. Then i got into it.

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01/03/08 01:26

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RE: GW or WOW

World of Warcraft:

1. Money really isn't that big of an issue. You don't have to really spend much at all throughout the whole game, excepting ammunition, skills, and food. The money issue comes when people 'twink' their chars every level. Twinking is giving your char the best gear you can obtain at your level. Don't need to do that at all. Mounts are tough if you're starting out, but not needed really.

2. $15 per month, no issue for anyone who works.

3. Getting to 70 got easier a while ago, they reduced the xp needed for level 20-60. 1-20 is a breeze.

4. Has more Depth than GW. Stealthing, professions(Leatherworker, Engineering, etc), skills and character roles.

-People mention GW takes 8 skills, while WoW has all the skills at your disposal. Might seem like it's tougher in GW, but playing the game, I found it has about the same level of skill needed, regarding skills available. Though I love GW, WoW has a complexity that requires use of all skills.

Guild Wars:

1. Money isn't needed for anything more than skins.

2. No cost per month, good for anyone. Though I find the p2p does filter out a few more immature players.

3. Guild Wars has titles and pvp rank, all of which take equal to or more time than getting from 1-70 in WoW. It's possible and fairly easy to get to 70 in 9 game days. I'm seeing alot of 'title' screenies here, indicating that alot of people are grinding in GW. But, you don't have to grind in GW.

4. Has less depth than WoW, but much more teamwork and timing. GW has more gimmick builds, such as Rit Spike, IWAY, etc. (I know IWAY and Rit Spike aren't as popular anymore, but whatever the flavor of the month is.) But the Teamwork aspect of PvP makes GW PvP all the better.

So either way. Personally, I'm attracted to WoW, but I am eyeing Guild Wars 2.

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01/03/08 01:49

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RE: GW or WOW

Guild Wars is balanced for PvP and PvE. WoW is what you call a PvEvP game. I find it cool that you can get a group/guild to attack a city, whenever you can. In Guild Wars you have to go to Random Areas, Heroes ascent,...

I think WoW and Gw are even to each other. What Guild Wars doesn't have, WoW has and vice versa

01/03/08 01:51

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RE: GW or WOW

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10236734

even if it is a link to guru (please dont whine about that), its a pretty good comparison of both by someone who has actually played both properly.

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01/03/08 02:05

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RE: GW or WOW

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Unfortunately I would have to say that Darth Vader would beat Chuck Noris hands down. however chuck gets the ladies might wanna consider that.

Which is why any sane man would be routing for Darth Vader...
Anyway, what I was going to point out is that there's more in the world than Guild Wars and WOW, though both communities tend to forget ;-)

There's several newly released and about-to-release MMOGs out there as well as some that have been around since before the WOW/GW era or came up since. Gameamp alone lists over 20 different MMOGs to choose from. Broaden your horizons (also an MMMOG) before settling for either one of the two Diablo spin-offs :-p

01/03/08 04:10

Andemius

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RE: GW or WOW

It's all been said :(

Well anyways No subion fees is a real boon. In my opinion GW has the best graphics hands down for any MMORPG. But if Level grinding and Elves is your thing, go WoW.

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01/03/08 04:36

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RE: GW or WOW

GW and WoW are very diffrent games actually

I thinkg both are good...so well I play both, problem solved:P

01/03/08 05:35

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RE: GW or WOW

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Has less depth than WoW

From what I've heard, it seems like all the skills in WoW are extremely straight forward. Like it's just a bunch of skills that have numbers that go up as you level up(Target Foe takes 1-5000 damage). In GW the skills are much much more in depth than WoW because we have special effects, ending effects, starting effects, conditional effects, removals and bunch of other stuff too. I said the diion of Auspacious Incantation and my friends said no skill in WoW is that complicated.

What I see is two completely different games. WoW is a very linear grinding game where you have these huge battles of who has more overpowered people nuking the crap out of each other (Or from what i've heard, going completely invisible and stabbing people...). No vent, No Stratagy, Just Go KILL KILL KILL.

GW takes skill, time, patients, the right build, knowlage of your area and working together as a team.

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01/03/08 13:35

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RE: GW or WOW

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Has less depth than WoW

From what I've heard, it seems like all the skills in WoW are extremely straight forward.

I the he meant sotry & lore-wise. :P
Not sure though.

I'm not gonna say anything about the topic, 'cos I like both games. Haven't played GW since Factions though, and cba to buy the new expansions. When Prophecies was the only campaign, GW was pure epicness, I don't know why. :P

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01/03/08 13:54

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RE: GW or WOW

I prefer GW over WOW because of the price. I can't understand the thought of paying $50+ just to have a game installed on my hard drive and have to continue to pay just so I can play it.

this come from the fact that I was an everquest player from waaayyyyyyy back when it first started up. on dial up. I once figured it out with the auto log outs and lag drops I was paying just over $10 per hour of play time.

01/03/08 14:14

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RE: GW or WOW

i'd say get orange box on the basis that its warped my mind in ways i could never imagine, but youre not looking for an FPS sooo...

i played guildwars for a good 2ish years with the new content keeping me fully content, the skill balance updates ensure that the game is fair for everyone that plays it and that noone gets a major advantage

but i dont have much experience with WoW, i played my cousins level 70 in the battlegrounds and all the random buttons gave me a mental breakdown, however, it is a game on a seperate scale to guild wars and content wise, although i found 75% of the people i came into contact with to be douches (not saying they all are, just the ones i experienced) it didnt make my playtime that amusing

but really the major deciding factor decides it, do you want to pay a monthly fee and get value for this money or do you want a one off purchase that you get more than your moneys worth on

i honestly would not hold it against you for going either way.... wow... all my text have managed to be completely on the fence...this isnt like me....

if you get gw, with the saved money BUY ORANGE BOX!...there....thats more like me =D

so yeah, im cant really give an opinion on the subject

01/03/08 14:28

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RE: GW or WOW

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Has less depth than WoW

I played both games for a long time (still playing WoW) and it seems you haven't played WoW yet? If I'm mistaken I'm sorry, but how can you say skills in GW are more in depth? Let's take one skill from one class in WoW and I'll show you it's just the same way, take the skill lifebloom from the Druid class:

Lifebloom: Heals 39 every second and 600 when effect finishes or is dispelled.

But now that effect is going to depend on a lot of factors, if toon who received buff, has any defuffs, buffs, it's going to depend on gear, if it gets removed before it's supposed too etc... So you see there is the before, now and after effect just like GW, each class in WoW gets lots of skills just like GW, the difference is in GW you can go into battle with only 8, which once you're in you're only way out is to leave the battleground or mission you're in, winning or losing the game. In my opinion that makes GW skills count on being "lucky", because if you go in as a healer and end up being against another healer the fight will never end or you will be "staffing" each other to death, where as in WoW you have an array of skills that can be used at anytime providing they're not on cooldown, which makes it even more difficult and it takes the same amount of skill if not more to improvise in the middle of the battle, by using different skills at different times.

I'm not dissing any games here, I personally would take the advice some here have given you and try out both games instead of coming to fan site and asking which one is better. GW PvP is great, but PvE there is just so much you can accomplish, for instance getting to 20 is so easy, you can't really count that as an accomplishment. GW is so balanced that even if you do "accomplish" to get all those tittles there is just so little advantage over other players that it ALMOST cancels it out, especially in PvP. But now if you're looking for PvP adrenaline then GW is the game for you, it takes skills and coordination.

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01/03/08 14:33

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RE: GW or WOW

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And I personally feel the reasons posted here are the reasons we still have many players playing GW. WoW quickly becomes a game of who's got the best gear, and getting most of that gear takes time. It's easy to spot the difference of a good player vs a bad one, just by his looks. In GW, you actually have to play against/with them, to determine if they have skills (in the game).

If I may sum it up, if you want PvE, and you are going to play quite much you go right away and buy WoW. The PvE-world is much better, provided you have enough time. If you only play and hour a day or so, WoW might not be the game for you.

If you on the other hand want PvP, GW wins. It's been voted best PvP MMORPG a couple of times, and it is arguably one of the best on it here on the market. It does however (like WoW) take some time to get used to, as the system are very different from traditional MMORPGs. There's some +1000 skills in the game, and you've got to know what each of them does. It takes some time figuring out which skill combinations are good, and which are bad. I'd also like to point out that if you want to PvP, you are most likely going to end up with buying all the 3 games, Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall, which gives you a big start-off fee.

If you want to play PvE, but only for certain amounts of time each day, then it's pick n' choose really. GW PvE suits most casual gamers, the same does WoW actually (even though you get rewarded for being hardcore). However, if your just going for some minor PvE between the coffebreaks, why just only look at GW and WOW? There are many other different games as well to play.

Oh and lastly. Don't listen to Meumesmo on the PvP part, GW is never 1 vs 1... He's misunderstood a fundamental basic of how this game works I'm afraid. But, if you want some pro WoW tips as well (right now you've almost only got pro GW tips), go and make a post on the WoW forum here at Gameamp, found HERE

01/03/08 14:50

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RE: GW or WOW

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Oh and lastly. Don't listen to Meumesmo on the PvP part, GW is never 1 vs 1... He's misunderstood a fundamental basic of how this game works I'm afraid.

Ok, that was my fault NOT to write that it was merely an example, I feel like I'm more than qualified to judge GW's PvP system.

Edit: What i wanted to point out is, how many times have you been in RA and you find yourself in a team of healers against another team with 2 monks and 2 damage dealers, then the dmg dealers leave cause they know they can't kill 4 healers :(

You see in WoW if 5 priests go vs 5 priests, there is a lot more than just who has the most patience to stay in RA for 1 hour (which I have done myself not for 1 hour but for 15 minutes >.<) until someone leaves. I do agree with you that in some ways WoW can be more gear heavy than GW, but that's what makes it fun, you have to "grind" for it but at the end your loot will be a lot more than merely a different skin. So you see there is the goodness in griding in WoW, which can be made over several days if you do NOT have the time to play. :)

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01/03/08 15:00

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RE: GW or WOW

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Oh and lastly. Don't listen to Meumesmo on the PvP part, GW is never 1 vs 1... He's misunderstood a fundamental basic of how this game works I'm afraid.

Ok, that was my fault NOT to write that it was merely an example, I feel like I'm more than qualified to judge GW's PvP system.

Well, if you feel like you know enough to judge GW's PvP, then why come up with examples like that? Provide some realistic ones then.

01/03/08 15:04

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RE: GW or WOW

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Like ive said before i played WoW on their 10 Day Trial free from the site, no credit card no money involved. It was slightly with the 10 days but its not my cup of tea.

I like WoW because of the World Size, everything else about it im not understanding.

But at least i played it before i judged it, some people even here have judged WoW or Gw Without having some basic knowledge of the game.

So i stand with guildwars because it is the game that i have waited for, a free MMO with a very unique style of gameplay.

And another quick one, if you look at xfire i have played EQ2, i don't always use xfire thats why the hours are screwed up and i just joined not that long ago so the total horus are messed up a bit.

But for me a Pay to Play game will rest as Everquest 2 i don't know about many people here who play it or have i heard much publicity of it but my stepbro got me to join along and play, i might not always pay for it and my majority of time WILL be with guildwars, regardless, maybe some Halo 1 (for PC) or CSS from time to time :)

01/03/08 15:08

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RE: GW or WOW

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Oh and lastly. Don't listen to Meumesmo on the PvP part, GW is never 1 vs 1... He's misunderstood a fundamental basic of how this game works I'm afraid.

Ok, that was my fault NOT to write that it was merely an example, I feel like I'm more than qualified to judge GW's PvP system.

Well, if you feel like you know enough to judge GW's PvP, then why come up with examples like that? Provide some realistic ones then.

Cause it saves time. Come on now imagine explaining how GvG or HA works to him, without him even touching the game box >.<

Edit: I can't spell today, or any other days... :(

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01/03/08 15:08

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RE: GW or WOW

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Has less depth than WoW

As mentioned, WoW skills are not just linear.

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As another example.

But what I meant was in the gameplay. Rogues are a great example of this. Stealth means not only do you have to pay attention to what you can see, but you have to be prepared for what you can't see. I know alot of people don't like stealth, but I enjoy it, even if I get ganked by a stealthed player.

Also, so far, Guild Wars has no professions or secondary professions. I don't mean the A/Rt, ritualists being the secondary; I mean First Aid, Cooking, and Fishing.

Professions are especially fun. My rogue is currently Engineering(look here for a listing of what you can make with Engineering) and it is a blast. Shrinking enemies, turning them to chickens, Gnomish Death Ray, bombs, mines, Explosive Sheep, etc.

I hope that Guild Wars 2 includes such an expansive personalization of your character. As well as improving on the already impressive array of skills available, instead of duplicating skills.

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01/03/08 15:16

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