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I was a factions guy for a long time then i went out and bought Nightfall becuase i heard that it was a great game. Well it is and im pretty happy.
I finally decide to make a dervish(i really never wanted to for some strange reason)
Now i no all about the avatars of the five gods, but i have no clue which one to use, or do u use them at different times in the game? and i have no clue want enchantments to use, i found chilling victory to be a great move
the reason i ask about the enchantments is because i pretty much have never used them, lol
there are really not alot of builds on the site for dervishs that dont have alot of problems or dont go into detail
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| 01/04/08 11:16 |
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MasterSaji
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The different avatars can be used for many different builds. Like, for running you can use Balthazar for speed and armor, or Dwayna for healing. Best bet is to look them up and see which one can be used in what manner.
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| 01/04/08 11:30 |
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Blazings
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I wrote a very big answer and than I accidently clicked on the picture in top middle, wich made me go to the home >.< I'll just retype it short:
Skill to advise: Mystic Regeneration (with 8 earth prayers)
2 Builds:
Damage Dealing:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:D/any_Av...dru_PvE_Dervish
Tanking:
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:D/E_Obsidian_Dervish
And if I were you, I wouldn't stick to one build. Just check if there are any Dervish elites in the mission/quest you're going to do and than bring a cap signet. You never know when the elite comes in handy.
~Blazings
P.S. If you want to check wether there is an elite in you mission/primary quest: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mission_overviews_(Nightfall)
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| 01/04/08 11:34 |
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Rap Man
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My advice for you:
The only avatars which have any use are Melandru's and Lyssa's. Melandru's allows you to ignore most anti-melee stuff in the form of blind etc and means you can use Wearying Strike for spammable deep wound. Lyssa can put out some impressive damage with Eremite's/Mystic.
I wouldn't advise taking defensive skills, the point of a derv is to kill stuff. If you have decent monks (hench) then you need not worry about taking defensive skills.
Heart of fury is a must to improve your attack rate which is needed as the scythe attacks so slow. Eremites and mystic sweep can be used to artificially increase your attack rate as well.
That's all I can think of atm.
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| 01/04/08 12:20 |
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Xx Kill Of Prey
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the reason i would use a god is to get a health bonus of 100. then equiped about 4 other health spells. Use vital boon right after and you can gain alot of health. you just need to keep that health up by using signet of pious. you can find some derv/assassin builds and guildwiki.com
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| 06/09/08 15:32 |
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| QUOTE | My advice for you:
The only avatars which have any use are Melandru's and Lyssa's. Melandru's allows you to ignore most anti-melee stuff in the form of blind etc and means you can use Wearying Strike for spammable deep wound. Lyssa can put out some impressive damage with Eremite's/Mystic.
I wouldn't advise taking defensive skills, the point of a derv is to kill stuff. If you have decent monks (hench) then you need not worry about taking defensive skills.
Heart of fury is a must to improve your attack rate which is needed as the scythe attacks so slow. Eremites and mystic sweep can be used to artificially increase your attack rate as well.
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you make me lol
"good monks(hench)"
from a pve perspective....Balth and Mel are your friends, dwayna is great in hex heavy areas(and its a self heal in non) grenths and lyssas are kinda useless though
i played derv in both pve and pvp for a year or so before i switched to mesmer and my bars usually looked like this for an avatar
IAS
Eternal Aura(if pve)
Avatar
Atk Skill 1
Atk Skill 2
Atk Skill 3
Optional
Optional(res if pvp)
frontliners really dont need a res in pve because if theres a party wipe you should be tanking what mobs there are to give the hard res and monks a chance to get out of aggro...if theres a party wipe and you're the first to run away then quit playing frontline :-p
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| 06/09/08 16:26 |
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HackingHippie89
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| QUOTE | | the reason i would use a god is to get a health bonus of 100. then equiped about 4 other health spells. Use vital boon right after and you can gain alot of health. you just need to keep that health up by using signet of pious. you can find some derv/assassin builds and guildwiki.com |
i must advise that everyone that reads this never listen to any advice this person has to give again
that is all
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| 06/09/08 16:34 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | the reason i would use a god is to get a health bonus of 100. then equiped about 4 other health spells. Use vital boon right after and you can gain alot of health. you just need to keep that health up by using signet of pious. you can find some derv/assassin builds and guildwiki.com |
i must advise that everyone that reads this never listen to any advice this person has to give again
that is all |
please explain to me why...
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| 06/09/08 16:37 |
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when i was playing derv at like the start when everybody was playing one (before the pve only skills etc) i always played something like this:
reaper's sweep (how can u play melee without deepwound i know not)
eremites attack (fast attacks turn me on)
wild blow (yes with 2 adren skills, it was against all those pesky whirling defense archers n stuff, i HATE IT WHEN I GET BLOCKED!!! use wisely...)
rush (always gotta keep movin fast and swiftly)
watch urself (w00t for pre nerf effects)
vital boon (i dislike this skill on dervs[because i prefer to kill than keep up ench if u know what i mean] but it's nice with twin moon sweep)
twin moon sweep (^)
heart of fury/soldiers defense/res (depends on area)
then i just basically ran soldiers defense on my 3 heroes to make them invincible to melee stuff
i pretty much owned everything you can say, then i got bored and deleted which i regreat till this day >.>
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| 06/09/08 16:50 |
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Wounding strike is pretty cool. Just sayin'.
IGN: Rogue Mysst. Guest me for GvG.
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| 06/09/08 17:03 |
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mason717
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So ur making ur first derv and ur GA avatar is a derv?
Anyways im a fan of Reapers Sweep.
This is the build i use:OgCjkyrG7SNXXgQXnbibjbEYCAA
Also Reapers Sweep is early in the game if u don't have the money for a tome or just don't care about an elete till off noob island.
Pls dont call me a nub if you don't like it, i haven't played a derv in almost a year (Quit my derv as soon as i beat NF).
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| 06/09/08 17:18 |
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HackingHippie89
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | the reason i would use a god is to get a health bonus of 100. then equiped about 4 other health spells. Use vital boon right after and you can gain alot of health. you just need to keep that health up by using signet of pious. you can find some derv/assassin builds and guildwiki.com |
i must advise that everyone that reads this never listen to any advice this person has to give again
that is all |
please explain to me why... |
from what he said....he was using a build as follows
Ava of Melandru
Health Spell
Health spell
health spell
health spell
Sig of Pious
god knows what
god knows what
dervs arent warriors, they have 70 armor, not 100....they deal damage, not tank that bar is not only probably pretty bad on energy....it is almost utterly useless even if it were a warrior bar, there are no snares to hold aggro even if he were cunning enough to gather it all on himself
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| 06/09/08 17:47 |
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stanzhao1
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | | the reason i would use a god is to get a health bonus of 100. then equiped about 4 other health spells. Use vital boon right after and you can gain alot of health. you just need to keep that health up by using signet of pious. you can find some derv/assassin builds and guildwiki.com |
i must advise that everyone that reads this never listen to any advice this person has to give again
that is all |
please explain to me why... |
from what he said....he was using a build as follows
Ava of Melandru
Health Spell
Health spell
health spell
health spell
Sig of Pious
god knows what
god knows what
dervs arent warriors, they have 70 armor, not 100....they deal damage, not tank that bar is not only probably pretty bad on energy....it is almost utterly useless even if it were a warrior bar, there are no snares to hold aggro even if he were cunning enough to gather it all on himself |
ok, that info is pretty basic stuff, which i knew already.
BUT! my point here was more to get you to explain why what he said wasnt helpful. and hopefully you have not only helped the original poster but you have also helped the second dude.
you have a good knowledge of the game hippie, it just seems a shame to me that you would rather spend your time writing quippy 1 liners rather than help people a bit more with the knowledge you have.
help me out here man, i feel as if i'm fighting some sort of losing battle with you guys atm. all of you are decent enough guys, but you seem determined to screw things up as much as possible. i can only do so much before everyone will eventually get the hump.
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| 06/09/08 17:53 |
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MasterSaji
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Sounds to me like someone doesn't feel appreciated.
Either way, the build Prey described wouldn't fit a derv unless you are 100% sure on how to run it. 4 healing spells is overkill, especially since all you really need is vital boon + pious light. VB has a fast enough recharge.
Although, I can see a derv healer, just switch out AoM for Arcane Zeal, slap 2-3 maintainable enchantments(one of which vital boon), infuse, mystic healing...
Oh wait that's my build :)
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| 06/09/08 18:07 |
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| QUOTE | | all of you are decent enough guys, but you seem determined to screw things up as much as possible. |
Hehe well you know me stan ^^ I cant stand it unless there's at least a little bit of drama :) I seem to feed off of others frustrations xD
Anyways, Way back when i had a Dervish ( back when NF came out) I always used Reapers Sweep( if i was heading into a heavy melee area) or Ava. of Lyssa (when I was going into a caster heavy area) Never got around to trying a dervish in PvP. I ended up deleteing my Dervish as soon as i finished NF. Just mainly focus on doing damage other than protecting yourself. Dervish is just an Assassin on Steroids ^^ Your job is to do as much damage to as many enemies as possible in a short amount of time :)
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| 06/09/08 19:02 |
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lord_gkar
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I know nothing of dervish but VoS makes me mad
avatars are nice but behing spel immune is nicer
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| 06/09/08 20:04 |
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HackingHippie89
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VoS is useless unless you're running
and even so jarm, on a mesmer you shouldnt have to worry about it....they've got 100 ways to deal with it
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| 06/09/08 20:07 |
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| QUOTE | | and even so jarm, on a mesmer you shouldnt have to worry about it....they've got 100 ways to deal with it |
hippie I said they make me mad not that I could not kill them mate
to a mesmer dervish are a better kind of "skishy"
ineptitude owns them big time
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| 06/09/08 20:10 |
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Tips
-Don't bring more than one healing spell you have mystisim and monks you'll be fine.
-boost your kurzik/luxon title abd get aura of holy might that skill adds a lot of dmg
-get eternal aura so you can keep up avatars indefinitely and inflict lots of aoe dmg on occasion if need be
-Run anything except for grenths avatar in pve they all have their uses(except grenths avatar it's for pvp)
-You can hit 3 people at once so do that whenever possible obviously. This helps you build adrenaline so feel free to use adren skills.
-Bring an IAS always
-Ebon Dust Aura is helpful support but you'd be better off letting things go boom and letting someone else handle that
-Don't be a dervish enchant bomber that build sucks in pve I don't care what anyoen says
That's all I have.
[EDIT]
-Just because your not an assassin DOES NOT mean you can overextend. So don't.
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| 06/09/08 22:04 |
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