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Before I start with this post I want you to know that BMP doesn't stand for Bonus Mission Pack this time, but for the tipe of picture file. Here we go:
When making screen in GW, the first 200 screens are .BMP format. When you hit the 200, GW automaticly makes it a .JPEG to save space on your computer(?).
Now I moved all my screens to an external harddisk so that I could get .BMP pictures again (handy for when you photoshop them).
I make a screen and guess what? GW starts counting at 001 again, but they are still .JPEG!
Does anyone knows if this can be changed? Since photoshopping .JPEG pictures can be a pain in the ***.
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| 01/06/08 09:40 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't GW use to always save screenshots in .bmp, but many months ago they changed it so they now save in .jpg.
It has nothing to do with how many you took, and what I know there's no way to change back to .bmp
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| 01/06/08 09:48 |
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Blazings
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Well it would be a real coincedence (err?) if they did that when I was exactly at 200 screens =]
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| 01/06/08 09:51 |
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| QUOTE | Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't GW use to always save screenshots in .bmp, but many months ago they changed it so they now save in .jpg.
It has nothing to do with how many you took, and what I know there's no way to change back to .bmp |
Yeah, I was about to say that too, but i thought there was a command to put them to .bmp again, like -image. I'll try to find out what it was...
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| QUOTE | A screenshot is a stillframe image of in-game action saved in the game's Screenshots subfolder. Screenshots allow players to document events, treasure memories, provide evidence for abuses, or just create Guild Wars-based user art. The default screenshot button is Print Screen. There is no limit to the number of screenshots a player may take, outside of the storage on the player's hard drives.
Currently, screenshots are saved in JPEG format, but can be saved as bitmaps by editing the games command line with the -BMP parameter.
The naming scheme for screenshots is gwXXX.jpg. XXX is replaced by a three digit number, which counts from 001 to 999. |
Linky to the wiki where I have found it.
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Mai Englisch is'nt verry good, so plaese keep taht in you're minds.
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| 01/06/08 09:52 |
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Does anyone knows if this can be changed? Since photoshopping .JPEG pictures can be a pain in the Puppies.
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Can you explain the difference between BMP Jpeg files? I havent noticed anything with photoshop, Unless you point out Jpeg Artifacts, dont happen on my GW's though.
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| 01/06/08 10:27 |
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easy way to try is make a coppy just in case then on the coppy were it says .jpg ect change it to the one u want.(doesnt allways work so make sure to make the coppy)
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| 01/06/08 10:55 |
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| QUOTE | | easy way to try is make a coppy just in case then on the coppy were it says .jpg ect change it to the one u want.(doesnt allways work so make sure to make the coppy) |
I doubt that works, you΄d need a image editing program to do that, simply changing .Jpg into .Bmp doesn΄t work, (atleast not for me, and i think it doesnt ever work)
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| 01/06/08 10:59 |
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It can be changed.. the same way that you would do an "-image" .... just do "-bmp".
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| 01/06/08 11:06 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | easy way to try is make a coppy just in case then on the coppy were it says .jpg ect change it to the one u want.(doesnt allways work so make sure to make the coppy) |
I doubt that works, you΄d need a image editing program to do that, simply changing .Jpg into .Bmp doesn΄t work, (atleast not for me, and i think it doesnt ever work)
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well it worked for me last time i tryd (am on psp so cant check)
edit: got back on comp and just tryed it seemed to work the file did change to bmp i just cant see the difference between a jpg and a bmp personaly i think they look the same
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| 01/06/08 11:06 |
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jpg is much more website friendly than bmp. jpgs are compressed more than bmps so therefore they load much faster. I dont know why you would want to take up all that room on your harddrive and resave them all....but hey to each their own.
Also you can use a much larger jpg image on here than a bmp. (physical size wise)
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| 01/06/08 12:28 |
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| QUOTE | jpg is much more website friendly than bmp. jpgs are compressed more than bmps so therefore they load much faster. I dont know why you would want to take up all that room on your harddrive and resave them all....but hey to each their own.
Also you can use a much larger jpg image on here than a bmp. (physical size wise)
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I believe its not because of that though, im still awaiting his reply, or if anyone else has the answer, to why BMP is easier to photoshop/edit in general then Jpeg.
Talking about Guild Wars screenshots that is, not things with very bad Jpeg artifacts.
Cause that was what its initially about, he desires BMP for the easier editing.
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| 01/06/08 12:56 |
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As far as I know, the ONLY difference between a JPEG and BMP is that JPG is compressed more. When editing either one, it's a single-layer image so I really have no idea what someone means when they say a JPEG is harder to edit over a BMP
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| 01/06/08 13:04 |
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Lol thank you for all the replies.
The difference between BMP and JPEG is (this is not from wiki, my teacher told me this and I do game-design):
BMP looks at every pixel and says "Oh that pixel has that color wich is code 0xASDOEI". He does that for every pixel making it high quality, but a big size.
JPEG looks at a picture and says "That pixel has that color and has this code 0xASDOEI, but there are many more pixels with this same color". It than makes a square and gives the entire square one code, making bad quality but low size.
So when I photoshop it, it is nicer to use BMP because a lot of quality get's lost in JPEG, due to the "rough" squares JPEG makes. After I made a pic, I save it as a .JPEG in Photoshop and you get almost no quality loss, but it has a JPEG size.
And thank you for the -BMP trick, but I have Windows XP and I can't edit the command line =S Does anyone has an idea of how to change this?
~Blazings
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| 01/06/08 13:11 |
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| QUOTE | | And thank you for the -BMP trick, but I have Windows XP and I can't edit the command line =S Does anyone has an idea of how to change this? |
Right-click on your GW shortcut, and click properties. Then, you should see a target window with "C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" written in it. Simply change this text to read "C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe"-bmp.
If you don't want your screenshots to always save as BMPs, you can simply copy the shortcut, and have one as standard JPEGs, and the other for BMPs.
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| 01/06/08 13:16 |
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Oh yeah...
Anyway, here's what you do. right click your Guild wars shortcut on your desktop, and select 'Properties'. In the new window, click onto the 'Shorcut' tab. Where it says 'Target', you'll be editing the very end of the line so that it'll look something like, "C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -BMP
Yes there's a space between the ending quote and the dash, and yes it does need to be in caps.
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| 01/06/08 13:21 |
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Lol I read that on wiki, but I can't edit that line. It's just grey, just info. I can't edit it.
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| 01/06/08 13:25 |
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Are you an administrator on the computer?
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| 01/06/08 13:28 |
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I'm the only user, it's my own PC =]
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| 01/06/08 13:33 |
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| QUOTE | Lol thank you for all the replies.
The difference between BMP and JPEG is (this is not from wiki, my teacher told me this and I do game-design):
BMP looks at every pixel and says "Oh that pixel has that color wich is code 0xASDOEI". He does that for every pixel making it high quality, but a big size.
JPEG looks at a picture and says "That pixel has that color and has this code 0xASDOEI, but there are many more pixels with this same color". It than makes a square and gives the entire square one code, making bad quality but low size.
So when I photoshop it, it is nicer to use BMP because a lot of quality get's lost in JPEG, due to the "rough" squares JPEG makes. After I made a pic, I save it as a .JPEG in Photoshop and you get almost no quality loss, but it has a JPEG size.
And thank you for the -BMP trick, but I have Windows XP and I can't edit the command line =S Does anyone has an idea of how to change this?
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*Nods* "Aha"
Didnt check that up on wiki, now i understand though. All in all though, i have no difficulties editing JPG's from GW's, i guess it comes down to how you use it though, everyone has a different style.
As MasterSaji asked, you might not be Administrator on your computer. Quite unlikely though.
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| 01/06/08 13:33 |
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What OS are you running? I can't speak for vista, but I'm pretty sure XP always lets you edit shortcut target lines. Perhaps try creating a second shortcut (which would be a good idea anyway) and editing the target of the second one.
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| 01/06/08 13:46 |
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Many months ago they changed the client to JPEG from BMP. You CAN start the client with a run command in (Start > RUN) and use the command "-bmp" to make it so guildwars saves as BMP. But a quicker way would to hit printscreen and then run over to MSPAINT and hit paste. Doing this, the computer takes a screen of gw right before gw turns all 2d objects to 3d and max's out any graphics that arent set high, and also before gw saves it as jpeg. So your best bet is it line up a nice pic, hit prntscrn and go to MSPaint and paste it in. Won't be JPEG if you do it that way.
Quick info bout screens:
I might make a screenshot info thread here i dunno.
Computer Printscreen, before guildwars compresses and changes GFX pasted into MSPAINT
Guildwaars Compression, Maxed Out all 2D objects.
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| 01/06/08 14:16 |
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Well I made two screens from it. It's in Dutch so I'll translate it a bit =P
On the right side you see the accounts. My rl name is Thijmen and under that it says: "Administrator of this computer. Password protected." It's also the only account on this PC and if I wasn't the admin, I wouldn't be able to install anything either.
On the left side you see my GW.exe shortcut. This is what I get when I right-click > properties. As you can see, I can't edit the target line, wich I need for BMP.
I've had the same problem with an other game (Return to Castle Wolfenstein) in wich you had to put " +sv_cheats1" behind target line. It haven't figured it out untill this day..
~Blazings
P.S. It's not really busy on the forums now, so I'll bump it later probably =]
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| 01/08/08 03:12 |
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If you want to make a bitmap instead of a Joint Photographic Experts Group image perhaps you could print screen and paste it in photoshop.
Screen caps don't actually have a format but they are uncompressed.
As for the difference between the two, I think it depends on the settings you use for the compression of the file as to the number of colours you have and res.
Terry Pratchett does an explanation of how the compression works in "clacks" the deion of a communication system
initially I think found in the Truth and Going Postal.
These devises sending information are finally sending pictures and lieutenant blouse finds a way of sending more information using a form of mathematical compression.
No one read the junk I write anyway might as well just jabber on about things that amused me at the time. I think the book that had the reference from blouse was Monstrous Regiment the concept of a code book was used and it showed a use of encryption this gave blouse the idea of improving on the way they sent pictures. I could go get the quote but It would involve finding the book in my room. my room is disorganized and I have to get more lemsip.
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| 01/08/08 05:08 |
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I dont speak dutch, but in the left screen, the tabs at the top - does one of them translate to "shortcut"?
It seems you are on the "general" tab?
The target line is changed under the shortcut tab.
EDIT : I see now - make a shortcut to GW on your desktop and edit that shortcut. I think you are trying to moddify the actual client in the program files folder.
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| 01/08/08 05:26 |
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I dont speak dutch, but in the left screen, the tabs at the top - does one of them translate to "shortcut"?
It seems you are on the "general" tab?
The target line is changed under the shortcut tab.
EDIT : I see now - make a shortcut to GW on your desktop and edit that shortcut. I think you are trying to moddify the actual client in the program files folder. |
I do speak Dutch, and it looks like a Properties screenshot of the executable itself, not the Shortcut on the desktop. You will not be able to add command-line extentions there.
Try the following (skipping to Dutch)
- Op je bureablad, klik met rechtermuis en kies voor "Nieuwe Snelkoppeling".
- Maak een snelkoppeling aan die verwt naar GW.exe (meestal te vinden onder C:\Program Files ...\Guild Wars)
- Rond Snelkoppeling af, en dan gelijk rechter muisknop en Properties op die snelkoppeling.
- Kijk Bij "Doel". Voeg achter het laatste aanhalingsteken toe text:
-bmp
en sla op.
Zou nu moeten werken.
End of Dutch.
Just told how to make a shortcut to the executable and add the command-line variable -bmp to it.
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| 01/08/08 05:40 |
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| QUOTE | | Just told how to make a shortcut to the executable and add the command-line variable -bmp to it. |
Sweet! It worked ^^ ty for that!
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| 01/08/08 05:59 |
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LANI FTW :D
( ps you should log into GW, its been a full year :O )
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