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I've been hearing about it since I started WoW, Karazhan.
I want to go and finish Black Morass to finish my attunement, but I've also been getting very different opinions on whether I'm geared enpugh for it.
Here's the link to my armory page (thankfully its working again):
Excelcis in the Armory
Some say I can't, some say I can! Is it enough? Note I have the +81 healing enchantment, but i'm still farming the mats for em. :-P I do plan to grind TK for my Sha'tar rep before I go. I lust after that gavel. :-)
I know I have to change some of my enchantments around a bit, but I was still learning (am still) learning the "finer" points of play. I'm also planning on tweaking my talents a little after what I'v learned etc.
Constructive opinions wanted.
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So what's wrong with finding out the hard way?
Kick down the door, fire a magic bolt into the ceiling and charge in screaming at the top of your lungs.
Oh wait. healing class. You'd wipe the entire group.
And they say healers have the "easy" job...
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Get recruited by a guild thats running Khara, and they will help you from there. Assuming there aren't a ton of healers on your realm that should be easy. I wouldn't know I haven't been passed the 50's.
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you are geared enough to go, as long as you know how to do your job, and follow directions from the raid leader, then you'll do just fine. who ever told you, you weren't geared enough, didn't know what they were talking about.
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Now that I have seen your gear/talents I say you're ready to go, just minor suggestions, but please don't take it the wrong way.
1. get rid of those trinkets and get ones with +healing/damage the lower city prayerbook is awesome if you have revered with them and they can be used in both slots since they're not unique providing about +140 healing alone , crits and spell hit rating are not as important for a healer if at all. Think "steady haling", with +healing trinkets you will break out the 1200 mark and when you get out from Kara you will probably be around 1500 or more if you get the gear. Your mp5 is a little low, but it's ok for now.
2. Your talents are a mess lol sorry, so just re-do them. Leave off some talents that are not as useful as some other ones for PvE at least. Maybe pick up DS for now, some argue that COH is useful but not until later on SSC and forth. Anyways DS is nice.
3. It would be nice if you guys had a more experienced/better geared healer to take you guys through the first time, your gear is enough for the healing but it can be stressful at times. You probably already know to rank your heals, POM is probably one of the best heals the priest has, renew always on your tank, flash heal is for those sudden damage heals, binding heal why not heal other and at the same time heal yourself spell and so on and so forth.
I'm no expert with priests and have only played my priest on the live server till 27, but I played end-game on the PTR with a 70 S2 PvP gear. So please correct if I"m wrong, and here is a build that I liked running, of course you should listen to the more experienced priests out there not me ^_^
Priest Holy/Disc build
The build can be changed a little bit, but that was what I liked to run.
Anyways, like apolleta said just go in and find out for yourself ^^
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@Lani: LOL. Leeeeeeroy Monk, I mean priest! :-p And your winking avatar is a bit creepy, LMAO. :-)
@Cr3ss3nt: I'm currently in a good guild that's running through heroics and slowly working its way to Kara, so moving guilds is out of the picrure. I'm being asked to go to Kara by other guilds that I've partied with in my ventures into the heroic dungeons. So, they're aware of my style of healing. It'll also allow me to sort of get a 1st hand view of what we can expect to see and encounter in Kara.
@Shadoblade: Thank you. It's good to know that it's good enough. As far as knowing how to do my job as the healer, well, I tend to go only with people I've partied with before. That way at least, they know my style and I know theirs.
@Meumesmo: Interesting input. Although I looked at DS earlier when I switched from shadow to holy, I didn't find the expense vs effect enough to warrant spending the 1 talent point. My M.O. before we start is well fed via Buzzard Bites or Golden Fish Sticks) + Adept's Elixir or Healing Power Elixir + Draenic Elixir of Wisdom + Scroll of Intellect V.
I re-thought the talent specs and have come up with the following:
proposed Re-build
I've re-spent the points from Power:Shield to Meditation. Removed Holy Nova, Blessed Recovery, Healing Prayers, and Lightwell and replaced them with Improved Renew (2/3), Divine Fury (5/5-for 0.5 second faster Heal/Greater Heal)
I couldn't find it (style-wise) to remove CoH (Circle of Healing). It's an instant cast and more importantly - a targetted AoE heal that produces only a little bit of threat. It's great with pets and minions. The lightwell was mostly being used for after-combat rez'es and Locks who tap often - so it was easy to give up.
Thanks for the responses all.
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If COH is a must and you like to run that build my only suggestion is to lose the 5 points from spell warding and 2 from holy specialization and get mental agility 5/5 and renew 3/3 since, POM and renew are used a lot, and also mental agility will help with COH if inner focus is on CD. Anyways those are my only suggestions, happy Kara nukin! ^_^
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KEWL!!! I didn't even consider Mental Agility!
Removed 7 points from Holy: (5-Spell Warding, 2-Holy Specialization)
Spent:
1-Improved renew
1-Power:Fortitude (since I needed 15 pts in Disc) and 15% HP buff is a long-term benefit
5-mental Agility
I do believe that may work for my way of healing. Thanks!
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if you want to look at some talent specs, here are some from the priest in my guild, we only have two atm who are running kara, we have another one thats shadow, but seeing as your holy, i dont that would help much lol.
this is my guild masters build, he hasnt brought his priest into kara for a while, hes been using his alt tank instead, we do bring his priest on for prince though
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...000000000000000
this is the other priests build, she pretty good at healing, shes new to the guild, just transfered servers, shes actually a RL friend of the shadow priest i mentioned earlier
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...000000000000000
i hope those help you a lil bit, sry i dont know how to shorten the links
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| QUOTE | | @Lani: LOL. Leeeeeeroy Monk, I mean priest! :-p And your winking avatar is a bit creepy, LMAO. :-) |
Dammit, and where do you suppose I put a fifth Pegi icon on my avatar??? There's four already! I don't even like spiders....
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| QUOTE | if you want to look at some talent specs, here are some from the priest in my guild, we only have two atm who are running kara, we have another one thats shadow, but seeing as your holy, i dont that would help much lol.
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That's great info. It's good to know I wasn't that far off. I will have to see what the difference is on the "Empowered Healing".
We have actually have 7 priests in our guild. :-) Two at the 20 & below, two in their 30's, two in their 40's and a 63, with me as the only 70. :-0 The priest at 63 is the alt of our ONLY 70 tank, LOL! We do have an upcoming tank who's about to hit 60. BUT, we need both tanks for Kara. :-p
It's sooooo helpful to our small guild that its easier to level now. TY Blizzard.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | @Lani: LOL. Leeeeeeroy Monk, I mean priest! :-p And your winking avatar is a bit creepy, LMAO. :-) |
Dammit, and where do you suppose I put a fifth Pegi icon on my avatar??? There's four already! I don't even like spiders.... |
Well.... ".......".
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | if you want to look at some talent specs, here are some from the priest in my guild, we only have two atm who are running kara, we have another one thats shadow, but seeing as your holy, i dont that would help much lol.
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That's great info. It's good to know I wasn't that far off. I will have to see what the difference is on the "Empowered Healing".
We have actually have 7 priests in our guild. :-) Two at the 20 & below, two in their 30's, two in their 40's and a 63, with me as the only 70. :-0 The priest at 63 is the alt of our ONLY 70 tank, LOL! We do have an upcoming tank who's about to hit 60. BUT, we need both tanks for Kara. :-p
It's sooooo helpful to our small guild that its easier to level now. TY Blizzard. |
You see my talents weren't that far off, even tho I don't have that much experience as a priest =P
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glad i could help =)
ya my guild has quite a few 70s, we only have 2 bosses in kara that we have yet to finish (the two dragons) and we've done ZF a couple times now downing the first boss. were trying to get enough people for gruuls, but need about 10 more people.
if anyone needs info on anything dealing w/ kara i.e. specs and bosses, feel free to ask me
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Update...
Re-specced and whoa big difference. Mental Agility and Meditation were huge differences.
I did the daily quest in TK:Botanica and had my mana drop no lower that 34% with Warp Splinter - and the tactic was just to out-DPS his healing and ignored his adds.
Now if he would only drop the pattern for the Whitemend Hood I've been lusting for...grrr-stingy bastage!
Awesome help guys!
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yeah same thing with my arena partner, he respecd and ZOMG HES ALIVE! lol,
Shado is now the man eh?
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| 01/11/08 11:50 |
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Hey! Well i havent used this forum in a very long time but I still remember most of you...
I'm glad to see this forum alive has i love my holy priest and i have been playing it for a very long time :)
The reason why others may tell you that your not geared enough yet is because they are actually looking for a quick and easy run. You have low health and a low mana pool. I really hope you get Whitemen set has it will help you a great deal especially when you start raiding. If you do not get the pattern, i suggest you find someone to craft it if you have the mats. It requires alot of materials but once you have them both crafted your suppose happy wiht it. I dunno if you are has unlucky as me but i ran those instences so often to get the pattern then i managed to gather all my mats and ended up finding someone to craft it.
Your trinkets arent healing ones. I suggest running BM to get the Scarab of infinite cycle or get revered with Lower City to buy both healing books which gives you 70+ healing. An easy way to get some good gear is through pvp. Some of the PvP geared now for healers have nicer stats then anything that would drop in Karazhan. Some gear may take some time to gain but most of them you wont change until you reach ssc. No doubt right now you will be able to run kara and the first few boss with no problem :) Hopefully the first few one will give you a few items that will help you alot such has the healing bracers from Maiden and the gloves from midnight.
I know when i hit 70, i started looking into alot of different healing build and the best way to find a good one is trying them.
Hope this help. Good luck.
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| QUOTE | | Hey! Well i havent used this forum in a very long time but I still remember most of you... |
Wow, it's been a while....nice seeing you again. :-p Even Lani's been dropping in from time to time. Now, for that blinking avatar..... hehe.
| QUOTE | You have low health and a low mana pool. I really hope you get Whitemen set has it will help you a great deal especially when you start raiding. If you do not get the pattern, i suggest you find someone to craft it if you have the mats. It requires alot of materials but once you have them both crafted your suppose happy wiht it. I dunno if you are has unlucky as me but i ran those instences so often to get the pattern then i managed to gather all my mats and ended up finding someone to craft it.
Your trinkets arent healing ones. I suggest running BM to get the Scarab of infinite cycle or get revered with Lower City to buy both healing books which gives you 70+ healing. An easy way to get some good gear is through pvp. Some of the PvP geared now for healers have nicer stats then anything that would drop in Karazhan. Some gear may take some time to gain but most of them you wont change until you reach ssc. No doubt right now you will be able to run kara and the first few boss with no problem :) Hopefully the first few one will give you a few items that will help you alot such has the healing bracers from Maiden and the gloves from midnight. |
With regards to PvP, well it's not my cup o tea. :-(
As for the HP/Mana, I'm hoping the "new" gear gets that going. I am still grinding for the Whitemend set, its being very elusive :-O Besides, its a good way to grind for the Sha'tar rep so I can get the Gavel of Light. If I get the rep before the patterns, I'll take my friends up on their offers to make it for me for 20-25g for the Primal Nethers. :-D
After doing so, I'll go for Lower City rep for the Prayer Book(s).
And then....
And then...
And then...
Soooo many things to do, sooooo little time. :p
Thanks for the input.
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update...
Finally got this!
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| 01/24/08 12:51 |
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Very nice gratz! Now if you could just get rid of those horrible non-healer trinkets it would be awesome! =P lol j/k and gratz!
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| 01/24/08 13:12 |
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I'm leading a guild on Garona and have had to look over plenty of applicant's gear. As far as spec goes, I leave that to the other Priests to evaluate, but I know some of the baseline stats we need on healers for our preliminary investigations.
I assume that since you just posted up the pic that you just got your whitemend pieces, but you may have had some of them before.
True there are better trinkets for you to be sporting, but our target +healing was always about 1000 to step in the door. Your current 1400 is awesome. Good use of lower leveled, gem slottable pieces. There are better of course, but I'm very impressed with the collection as a whole. To get to 1400 with several level 60 pieces is pretty cool.
The gearing I looked at today may have a bit of a mana issue, and your stamina could be a problem too because a lot of stuff really hurts ya in Kara and above. You need some decent stam to be able to absorb damage that everyone will get. The Garrote from Moroes, and dealing with the flares on Curator are just the beginning. The better healing pieces from level 70 gear and heroic gear will have the stam, int and some mana regen to assist with that.
For someone thinking about stepping into Kara for the first time, you are a very well geared Priest for the job.
One bit of warning though, and you may already be aware of this by now. With that +1400 healing and a new raid crew, you need to make sure that the tank has a lot of aggro before you start poppin your biggest stuff. Your bonus healing to aggro generation ratio is probably squeued unless your Tank is coming in over geared for a new crew.
Basically, you're going to pull a crapload of healing aggro with points that high in bonus healing. On the flip side though, with 1400 bonus healing you should be able to use some of the lower leveled heals to conserve mana and reduce that aggro while still being effective.
The solution is simple. Help your tank get better gear. In the process of workin through the approriate heroics to fish for good tank gear, you'll be picking up the occasional healing piece. And badges for a few good pieces too. Find yourself a good gear research site and try for the best heroics to run with your Main Tank.
For Kara runs be prepared to have to manage a shackle and heal at the same time.
The first three bosses are Tanking healing tests for the raid group. The Second boss Moroes will require that you keep a shackle up for quite a while during the fight, so CC will be part of your job. Curator and above are DPS and mana management checks for the raid.
As the guild recruiter, I'd pick you up in a heartbeat based on gear alone. You'd prolly do fine on the audition as well.
*EDIT* And on the trinkets specifically: With 1400 bonus healing you don't need the boosters like that now. Look for mana regen or reduction stuff that most healers use. IF I think of it I'll ask a few of my Priest friends in the guild if they have any recommendations for you.
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A little quick research and I found these trinkets:
Scarab of the Infinite Cycle
Binds when picked up
Trinket
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases healing done by up to 70 and damage done by up to 24 for all magical spells and effects.
Equip: Your direct healing and heal over time spells have a chance to increase your spell haste rating by 320 for 6 secs.
Drops from Aeonus
Instance: Black Morass
Bangle of Endless Blessings
Binds when picked up
Trinket
Requires Level 70
Equip: Your spell casts have a chance to allow (15-max(PL-70,0)/2)% of your mana regeneration to continue while casting for 15 sec.
Use: Increases your Spirit by 130 for 20 sec.
Cooldown: 2 min
Drops from Warp Splinter
Instance: Botanica
If you are just stepping into Kara there are usually a lot of Black Morass runs to get folks keyed. Try to participate in those as much as possible, and your DPS casters will be after some very nice slottable cloth pieces from Botanica.
If you can get your hands on those little beauties, they will hold you till the good stuff drops in Kara. And like already stated, the Lower City Prayer book is a great healer trinket. So that gives you three to shoot for. Rep rewards are so much more reliable than drops, so start grinding out Lower City rep!
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LOL Muemesmoo. Just the hood. I have yet to get the pants. :-) Grind, grind, grind.
Thanks, Thunderpants. It's good to hear that I'm heading in the right direction.
Unfortunately, the trinkets are on the lower part of my list at the moment.
To do:
1) get Whitemend Pants
2) get Sha'Tar rep for the Gavel of Pure Light, slobber, slobber.
3) get better wrist/bracers
4) grind Lower City rep for LC Prayer Book
5) grind in BM for Scarab
And then, replace with the next 5, rinse, lather, and repeat!
As for the threat I now generate, I'v learned to manage it more than most of my guildmates - being squishie - you have to learn. And I can't live without that Omen Threat Meter. Whilst in battle, I tend to use quicker casting spells (flash heal & circle of healing) and only use the Greater heal exclusively on the MT/OT when they have 50% or less HP. Love that mod too, %'s in my UI :-p
LOL
Thanks for the info folks.
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I'm sure there's no ammount of begging to get you to move to Garona.......lol
Being a guild leader(council of 5 runs my guild) I see a lot of folks with no game plan that expect the guild to tell them where their gear can be found and to take them to it like a lost puppy.
Seeing a player geared so intelegently for the level of gear they aquired and a good go forward game plan makes life sooooooo much easier on the leaders of the guild. I wish more of my crew could plan and gear like that.
Good luck in Kara. It's a lot of fun once you get a little practice on a couple of bosses. Moroes is a little tricky at first, and the opera event will test your teams coordination skills. But Attunemen and Maiden are plain old Tank and Spank!
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| QUOTE | | I'm sure there's no ammount of begging to get you to move to Garona.......lol |
Hehe, don't worry. You're not the the only one. I've had offers of friends paying for the transfer and between 500g to 2,000g upon arrival. :-p
| QUOTE | | Being a guild leader(council of 5 runs my guild) I see a lot of folks with no game plan that expect the guild to tell them where their gear can be found and to take them to it like a lost puppy. |
That would annoy me, too. And then they ask you.."How you get all the good stuff?"
| QUOTE | Seeing a player geared so intelegently for the level of gear they aquired and a good go forward game plan makes life sooooooo much easier on the leaders of the guild. I wish more of my crew could plan and gear like that.
Good luck in Kara. It's a lot of fun once you get a little practice on a couple of bosses. Moroes is a little tricky at first, and the opera event will test your teams coordination skills. But Attunemen and Maiden are plain old Tank and Spank! |
Thank you. I try and make "informed" decisions. I've been surfing all over the web for info. I can't see myself going about this blindly as some do. :-p
So, Maiden's a tank n spank, eh? Sweet, I need something from her. I am definitely looking forward to it. And talking with the GL and the "senators", looks like I have the green light to start gear-runs all over the place and guiding folks for them. The consensus is going for the D3 sets and the Kara pre-quests/attunement. At present, there are only 3 of the 17 level 70's who are. And we finally got a level 70 resto shammy, woot. 2 healers now. :-) Progressing as a guild is so much fun.
I cannot wait. :-)
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| QUOTE | I'm sure there's no ammount of begging to get you to move to Garona.......lol
Being a guild leader(council of 5 runs my guild) I see a lot of folks with no game plan that expect the guild to tell them where their gear can be found and to take them to it like a lost puppy.
Seeing a player geared so intelegently for the level of gear they aquired and a good go forward game plan makes life sooooooo much easier on the leaders of the guild. I wish more of my crew could plan and gear like that.
Good luck in Kara. It's a lot of fun once you get a little practice on a couple of bosses. Moroes is a little tricky at first, and the opera event will test your teams coordination skills. But Attunemen and Maiden are plain old Tank and Spank! |
I know that feeling all to well, i ran my buddies guild until he stabbed me in the back after all i did 2 help him...needless to say i havent spoke to him sense and dont intend to. Sadly however i got myself in....another predicaments of sorts since im gonna be running the raiding for my gf's friend...
but back on topic...your well more then rdy for kara and should easily heal up to prince, you'd even be capable of healing gruuls with your current gear and its quite nice to see someone for once who actually knows what there doing for once BUT, my advice on grinding shatar rep for that epic mace you want....dont. its not worth the time when Maiden(3rd kara boss) drops a far better mace, if you go through all the trouble of grinding rep only to get hers.
im current running Hmech for my war to get "The SunEater" aswell as rep for the shatar shield, however its proving to be....my luck that the sword never drops for my war yet iv seen it countless times on my pally...who has it...damn blizz and using char binds over account.
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If your gonna endlesly try to get rep for a not very good epic mace. Get the Hand of Eternity crafted. If your in aguild taht already runs kara and that don't wipe on midnight or moroes dont bother the virtuous shard will drop far enough.
hand of eternity require alot of mats and money but if you have some good friends within a few days you will have it.
That's the one i have been using since i got to lvl 70 and my next one is the arena one :) It's a great mace!
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Update...
Well, it wasn't endless, but I got exalted with the Sha'tar finally! +1440 healing, yeeha!
I don't have any friends (BS) who have the recipe nor do I PvP/AV :-( So this was the best thing I could get at the moment. Besides, running in all the instances helping my guildmates get their D3 gear also gets me the mats for those enchantments I am needing for the gloves, bracers, and the new mace. I am not wearing the gloves or bracers yet cause I want to see the impact once I get them ench'ed.
A few more weeks (I hope) and we'll be paying Kara a visit. :-p
To do:
1) get Whitemend Pants
2) **CHECK** (get Sha'Tar rep for the Gavel of Pure Light, slobber, slobber)
3) **CHECK** (get better wrist/bracers)
4) grind Lower City rep for LC Prayer Book
5) grind in BM for Scarab
**strange that DKPsig isn't sync'ed yet with the armory info even though its been almost an hour since I logged. :-p
edit: dang typos
***THIS POST HAS BEEN EDITED***
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| 01/31/08 04:20 |
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livingdeadgirl
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If you ever want to change your gloves before entering kara since yours are only level 61.
There's a pair of gloves that is really good that drops in Botanica. They will be good until t4 or gloves of saintly blessing (if you want those). http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=28304
It says the drop is low but i've seen it drop alot. Hopefully you'll be lucky.
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| 01/31/08 13:08 |
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