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I am looking for an all-in-one gaming motherboard that will fit into an ATX case. I need price ranges and stuff. It must be about 512 mb graphics and 1gb+ memory
links and stuff are always good
i need it as cheap as possible thanks
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| 01/10/08 14:13 |
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michaelw
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anyone?
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| 01/10/08 14:24 |
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You live in the UK as your account says? If so, i might spend some time tonight browsing for you then, i do want some preferred specs, considering its ONLY a motherboard you ask.
I suppose that means you still want your own old CPU, Videocard and the lot in that?
In that case it gets hard, either you need to buy a new CPU, or find out which Socket your current CPU is.
otherwise i cant even start to help as not every CPU fits in every motherboard.
So give me the following information:
CPU (will you use your current one or buy a new one aswell)
Graphics Card (What brand, what connection? AGP or PCI-Express)
Any additional thingy's you might want, like more USB ports, stuff like that.
Also, will you BUY new RAM or will you use your current one, if so, what Mhz are they? (DDR, DDR2, DDR3)
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| 01/10/08 14:32 |
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michaelw
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CPU - will buy a new one
Graphics Card - i would prefer on the motherboard, to keep the cost low
Any additional thingy's you might want - dont really care
Also, will you BUY new RAM or will you use your current one, if so, what Mhz are they? i will buy new RAM, hope it helps
tell me what to get =]
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| 01/10/08 14:36 |
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| QUOTE | CPU - will buy a new one
Graphics Card - i would prefer on the motherboard, to keep the cost low
Any additional thingy's you might want - dont really care
Also, will you BUY new RAM or will you use your current one, if so, what Mhz are they? i will buy new RAM, hope it helps
tell me what to get =] |
Ok, il Browse tonight then, you'll probably find a post tommorow.
About the RAM, ok, considering DDR2 RAM is a steal now, i'd say im going to advice 2 RAMchips at the highest Mhz for DDR2, as its worth the investment, and makes you get more out of your entire computer in general.
I want you to rethink now though, as integrated graphics on a motherboard is simply NOT fitting for games at all, you can play them, but its probably going to annoy you so much that you'd use your old one again (considering you can play guild wars on that right?)
Integrated graphics just cant cut it with games, their great for browsing, but modern day games they cant simply handle too well.
Do you have a videocard at this moment? Or has your current Motherboard also use integrated graphics?
Also, if you have your card, maybe you know now if you can look at it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Graphics_Port
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
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| 01/10/08 14:41 |
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i am currently using a PCI 128mb graphics card, had it for ages, and im sure that some motherboard intergrated graphics is better than that, and someones bound to have made an all-in-one uber gaming motherboard =]
btw i am also searching so im not being lazy, but i cant find anything
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| 01/10/08 14:48 |
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| QUOTE | i am currently using a PCI 128mb graphics card, had it for ages, and im sure that some motherboard intergrated graphics is better than that, and someones bound to have made an all-in-one uber gaming motherboard =]
btw i am also searching so im not being lazy, but i cant find anything |
That is correct sir, as probably no-man to this day has yet managed to get integrated graphics higher then your current dedicated videocard.
No seriously, give your ''average'' budget class and il find, mind you, your getting a CPU with it, meaning you need to add atleast 70-80 quid extra for that. Dont forget that :)
Also, any websites or shops in particular? just give me the Links and il try to browse a bit then.
EDIT: Spelling
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| 01/10/08 15:17 |
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Heh, someone is earning their +cred today, that's for sure at least.
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| 01/10/08 15:20 |
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| QUOTE | | Heh, someone is earning their +cred today, that's for sure at least. |
Well thats just a gift this forum gives, i would've helped regardless of that, but thanks nonetheless.
Still, i buy my stuff at a local store, so if anyone has some nice websites (cause i think he's going to order online) then they are much appreciated.
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| 01/10/08 15:22 |
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michaelw
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well im looking to spend about £500 at the VERY maximum, thanks for lookin for me
i dont care what sites you get it from btw
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| 01/10/08 15:29 |
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Il edit this post as more comes in.
I seem to have some problem checking the links, they appear not to work after some time.
Ok, i browse a bit, i found something you might like, the price is a bit high, but you will also get a CPU with it, although it isn't much, considering for now it will certainly do.
Motherboard + CPU
I chose Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) for you because these chips are cheaper then Intel's, that does mean its ofcourse weaker, but they are perfectly stable.
This motherboard supports PCI-Express aswell, so i think your card fits. And it supports DDR2-800Mhz RAM which gives your PC just that kick in the *** it needs. You can always upgrade to a better AM2 Dualcore CPU later on aswell.
These:
RAM Chips 1
Or These:
RAM Chips 2
Mind you, buy these TWICE, for 2GB RAM, and because they are both the same brand, you can turn them into DualChannel for extra speed :)
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So 500 Quid is THE maximum, currently if i out of my head make a quick math, your under 200 quid in total for what i just adviced (considering you already have a Vidcard and Computercase.
Do you want me to go near the 400 quid zone for just a motherboard, CPU and Ram?
Otherwise, you might want me to actually look for a good Videocard additionally you can put in so your system will be nicely balanced.
Meaning i wont put a top of the line Graphicscard in cause thats useless, you know, not too fast, not too slow, just right ;)
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| 01/10/08 15:32 |
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yeah nice one, could you also search for a PCI-E graphics card for me, im off for tonight, need some sleep, youve been a great help
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| 01/10/08 15:48 |
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Because it seems i am unable to get any link working due to time-out errors cause somehow that webpage is ''dynamic'' or something, il post thumbnails here, along with the specs:
 ]Motherboard + CPU[/URL]
Processor/Socket
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 / Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core / Sempron (Supplied with AMD X2 4000 CPU)
Socket Type: AM2
Chipset
Chipset: Single chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 6100S
Memory
Dual-channel DDR memory architecture
2 x 240-pin DDR2 DIMM socket - supports up to 16 GB
Support DDR2 800/667/533/400 DDR2 SDRAM
Form Factor
Micro-ATX Size, 244mm x 244mm
Expansion
1 PCI Express x 16 slot (runs in x8 mode)
1 PCI Express x 1 slot
2 PCI slots
Audio
Realtek ALC660/ALC662 6-channel audio
Compliant with HD specification
LAN
Broadcom AC131 10/100 Lan controller
Rear Panel I/O
1 x PS/2 keyboard & PS/2 mouse connectors
1 x VGA port
1 x Serial Port (COM1)
1 x RJ45 LAN connector
1 x DVI connector
4 x USB ports
1 x Audio port (Line-in, Line-out, Mic in)
Internal I/O
1 x 24-pin ATX Power Supply connector
1 x 4-pin ATX 12V connector
1 x FDD connector
1 x IDE connector
2 x Serial ATA connectors
2 x USB 2.0 headers support additional 6 USB ports
1 x Front panel switch/LED header
1 x Front panel audio header
1x CD in header
1 x Buzzer CPUFAN/SYSFAN connectors
System BIOS
Award BIOS with 4Mb Flash ROM
Supports Plug and Play 1.0B, APM 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI
Supports ACPI revision 1.0 specification
 RAM
* 1GB Memory Module
* DDR2 DIMM for Desktops
* 800MHz Bus Clock Rate
* 240pin configuration
* Non-ECC
 ]Graphics Card 1[/URL]
* GeForce 8500 GT Chipset
* 256MB DDR2 Memory
* PCI-E x16 Interface
* DVI-I / VGA / HDTV-Out
# Microsoft DirectX 10 Support
# OpenGL 2.0 Support
# Window
 ]Graphics Card 2[/URL]
* NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT OC Chipset
* 256MB GDDR3 Memory
* PCI-E x16 Interface
* Dual DVI-I / HDTV Out
* Microsoft DirectX 10.0 Support
* OpenGL 2.0 Support
* Windows Vista Ready
* HDCP Enabled
I'd say either of the two will do, i've had both Brands in my life, but im more satisfied with Nvidia then ATi, but that is still always a personal matter as both are always neck to neck with things, and both have made their sins in the past.
If you want and can that is, get the Second Graphics Card, i think it shouldn't go faster then the system i just recommended can handle (otherwise you waste energy on skipped processes due to lag)
Its Overclock (OC) is also very handy, as not only is it a bit faster then general, that means if it goes WOOSHA in your computer (not that it happens, just saying) its covered under warranty so you can get a new one, saves you from attempting an Overclock and blowing it up hmm? ;)
I think we have a nice Gaming Computer here Sir, fit for the Mid-range budget class, you can atleast play Guild Wars nice and steady with this, and due to the videocard, big chance you can play next-generation games like Crysis on Medium.
As my CPU is only higher then what you have, motherboard is basicly the same (i also have AMD) and my Videocard currently is even lower then the one i suggested to you, i also run at 2GB ram at 633 Mhz, (you got 800 Suggested) and i can play Crysis on Medium.
mind you though, i clocked over alot and don't do Stock Cooling, but still, even these things have their limits, yours has a chance of excelling in some area's.
Also, if you think you got excess money to spend someday later, you can always in 6 months or so decide to sell your CPU/Processor to a friend or wherever, and upgrade to the AMD AM2 Dualcore +5000- +6000 range, meaning you get more Mhz CPU, which might mean you can get it going just those 10-20% (at max) faster and which might help.
But for now, with your budget, this should surely help.
I can go higher that is, but then we're nearing 400 atleast, you would get something NIIIIIIICE though, but it totally depends up to you, theres always more to Computers, hard to believe, but even i dont spend every dime upgrading.
The choice is up to you, you can always just see what i can come up with for that price range, and just think about it.
Hope to hear from you tommorow then, Have a nice rest.
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| 01/10/08 15:49 |
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Hi
I was looking around on the site where i ordered my computer
it seems to be very good for the price they are charging
( please all let me know what you think )
My stats for my pc are :
Key Features:
True power and unbeatable value
- Quad core, do more.
Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium
Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 Processor
(2.40GHz ,8MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz)
Hybrid TV Tuner- Digital & Analogue
SLI nForce 650i Mainboard
Now With 4GB Memory
750GB SATA 2 Hard Drive with 16MB buffer
256MB nVIDIA Geforce 8400GS (DX10)
19" Widescreen TFT LCD Display w/speakers
LightScribe Super Format 18x DVD Writer
5.1 High Definition onboard sound card
Logitech Cordless KB & Optical Mouse
6 USB, 2x Firewire, GB LAN
Multi-format Memory Card Reader
Logitech Cordless KB & Optical Mouse
Free upgrade to 1 Year Onsite Warranty (Home Service)
Cost was £778.99
I purchesed this from mesh computers.com this is a link to site
http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/hub.do?categoryId=12
also other site that maybe worth a look
www.overclockers.co.uk
Well i hope it give a bit of insight i will post more links if i see them but dont have much time due to college
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| QUOTE | | Heh, someone is earning their +cred today, that's for sure at least. |
I was just thinking the same thing.
I watched him go from 70 to 119 in 2 hrs.
Great job Forumite. You are a great member of the community. You set a good example for the rest of us.
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Buy me a giraffe <3
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| 01/10/08 18:40 |
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| QUOTE | Key Features:
True power and unbeatable value
- Quad core, do more.
Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium
Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 Processor
(2.40GHz ,8MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz)
Hybrid TV Tuner- Digital & Analogue
SLI nForce 650i Mainboard
Now With 4GB Memory
750GB SATA 2 Hard Drive with 16MB buffer
256MB nVIDIA Geforce 8400GS (DX10)
19" Widescreen TFT LCD Display w/speakers
LightScribe Super Format 18x DVD Writer
5.1 High Definition onboard sound card
Logitech Cordless KB & Optical Mouse
6 USB, 2x Firewire, GB LAN
Multi-format Memory Card Reader
Logitech Cordless KB & Optical Mouse
Free upgrade to 1 Year Onsite Warranty (Home Service)
Cost was £778.99
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This is a pre-build computer right? otherwise i find the price really really high, but if its pre-build, i wont say anything, cause every PC shop i know asks alot more when they're pre-assembled.
Well, looks fine to me, except for the VideoCard, their giving you a popgun while your CPU & RAM are over the top, your graphics Card will be a big bottleneck, considering the high price, if you can, pay a few tens more and get an Nvidia Geforce 8800 series, i'd advice the 8800GT if you want the best bang for buck, the 8800GTS 320/640MB versions aren't that good with price/power like the GT, if you REALLY want the top, 8800 Ultra all the way.
But that might be a little too pricy, if you really dont mind investing a little more to future proof it for a longer time.
Get the Nvidia 8800GT or the Nvidia 8800GTS 512MB (Overclocked if possible), Benchmarks have already shown that this card's Core excells that of the 8800 Ultra, only the memory is a bit slower, but in general, if you really want something that touches the Ultra's performance in a neck to neck race, and yet pay a lil bit less. That's your card right there.
For the rest as i said, looks fine to me.
Except for Vista i may note, NO, im not bashing it, im just saying, if you are purely going to use it for Gaming and want every Frame Per Second squeezed out of it, Ask if they can give you Windows XP, its proven and Vista lovers won't deny it, Vista has a few less FPS in games cause it fills up RAM and takes some more CPU processes.
Where talking here about a not too big difference, say +5 FPS at high depending on the computer in particular, but if your purpose is GAMING GAMING GAAAAMING, Get XP, for now, Vista simply is a bit too much.
No Vista Bashing please, im too old for that.
Edit; Forgot to [quote] perfectly.
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| 01/10/08 18:46 |
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welg to pick up some second hand cards there is a shop near me that sells them plus i am going to duak run them....as i am going to sell my old pc....
As for vista no choice on that as if comes pre installed but i am thinking of installing windows xp...but vista has been out for a year and will have to do it some day...also want to get unreal tournement which is dx 10 or is it vista only i cant remeber at moment....
will have to see how i feel when i use it and it is prebuild
anyway thanks for the comment forumite i will look into your suggestions
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| QUOTE | | This is a pre-build computer right? otherwise i find the price really really high, but if its pre-build, i wont say anything, cause every PC shop i know asks alot more when they're pre-assembled. |
Let me just jump on here :-)
I'd like to say that the tendency to overcharge for pre-builds isn't (just) greed. Let me tell you a little stoory about what happened in my town about 6 years ago.
There's three main computer/hardware stores in my town that are national chains, there's a fourth, smaller one that got good bussiness mostly from selling parts. It wanted to break into the pre-build "consumer PCs" as opposed to the Geek parts they were selling. So they hired a company to set up a very nice online shop for it (that was pretty forward thinking 6 years ago) and it was really very nice. I know, cause I was on the team that made it for them.
So they set up pre-builds, then added customization to it and to top it all they were going to do a blatant ad campaign showing they would be undercutting the competition on price. They would custom pre-build your system for 10% over total-parts value.
What the store chain (whose HQ wasn't based in my town, the local store could've told them this but didn't or dind't do it loudly enough) didn't realize is the following. My hometown is a College town with the country's largest Computer Science college and a Technical University to boot. Also a lot of Philips Electronics Engineers.
I was one of the lucky ones who still had their system actually made to request having had advance knowledge of what was about to happen. Two days after my system was built the campaign was cancelled. By that time the local store's staff had gone completely berzerk trying to put together over 12,000 pre-build system orders with over 2000 different configurations...
Oh, and the Good system with crappy video-card is a classic get-them-back-in-the-store method.
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| 01/10/08 20:13 |
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I know that trick is the ''you'll come back later for an upgrade'' classic, hence i said if you can, request something else, they'd still make some profit by just selling a higher end card, not as much as him buying a whole new one + old one he already bought.
What's also a nice trick is laying old parts next to new parts, and price them so that they look almost identical, while infact, the one is a whole generation older :P
Anyway's, we'll see what he thinks about the suggested system for now, i think honestly though, he can play some nice games on that one. And he can always still decide now to spend an extra 50 quid or so to get a motherboard alone (this one has CPU included) and get a faster Dualcore.
| QUOTE | | welg to pick up some second hand cards there is a shop near me that sells them plus i am going to duak run them....as i am going to sell my old pc.... |
You mean your getting them in SLi? if so, nevermind what i said, that's good enough then. Just bloody make sure you got the same card number as your old one, or they won't work!
Good Luck with that.
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