I've helped a few people with this before, just look at my previous posts.
Ok, so you got 1000 to spend? Thats ALOT!
I spend no more then 500 euro's and already i can play most games on HIGH, im only waiting for a new GPU instead of this one that everything can go max.
But games like Guild Wars are already maxed, with everything on.
Before i start making up a list of the best of the best stuff you can get for that budget, just give me a few websites if you got anything you prefer ordering/buying from.
Otherwise, il seek out some websites myself and just give you the parts, up to you then to figure out where to get them best.
You sure you want to spend 1000 on it? or 800? depends on you really, if you let me go the the limit i think you'll get a computer that will last for quite a while.
Also, how much do you want in it, with that budget you can easily go with SLi (double videocards) but i dont know who's paying your energy bill.
Unfortunately, building your own PC can be very mind-boggling.
Here's a list of what you'll find in the average PC these days:
Motherboard
RAM
Video Card
Sound Card
Power Supply
Processor
Network Card
Optical Drive (CD or DVD rom)
Note that this is ignoring things like input devices, speakers or monitors, since I'm assuming you still have those.
The first thing you'll want to do is hit the books. There are many articles out on the interwebs that discuss the basics of building a pc. Here's a few articles to get you started:
Once you know more what you're getting yourself into, you'll need to cruise different sites to find out what stuff costs. A decent site for configuring a computer (including some suggested choices) is CyberPowerPC.com. Other good sources for computer components are newegg.com and tigerdirect.com.
Also, what were the specs on your old computer? Those would be good to know when building a new one.
I really don't know much about building PCs, and much less about euros (other than that it is more valuable than the American dollar), but what I would is go to either dell.com or mac.com and search the specs of say a Dell Inspiron XPS 3000 or some thing Mac(dont know much about Apple PCs) then build a custom PC based on that information.
I believe Dell has like a virtual builder where you can tell it what you want and whether you want it to be a laptop or a desktop.
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I would highly suggest just ordering parts, cause these days its not hard at all to build a computer, seriously, its not. Most cases these days you'll be lucky if you can find 2 screws, its all click N Play these days.
If you want good stuff for relatively nice prices, dont go for pre-build computers, if you know how to handle a screwdriver, your awesome enough to build your own PC cause the manual you get with all your parts easily explain step by step how to do it, and i dont think you will even need it.
Plus it just feels good (in my opinion) that you build something on your own, something to be extra proud off.
Anyways, Its not hard:
You put your new motherboard in your PC case, 6 screws are given with it, just put the motherboard's holes on the places where the screws should go in, and thats one step.
Then installing the CPU, thats not hard at all, every CPU comes with a golden ''arrow'' on one side, just put it as shown in the manual for your motherboard, and it should (without force) fall into place. If it doesn't, do not apply force, check first if its wrongly placed.
Now the cooler, apply the gel that probably was supplied (unless its already on the heatsink) and put the heatsink on the CPU, now lock it in place which usually means you just have to push on a lever or something like that.
Then the power supply, connect all cables to your motherboard as the manual says, you cant go wrong here, put any excess cables out of the way for now.
Next up is RAM, thats too easy for words, only one way RAM fits, just push and the two sides should say ''click'' and you installed RAM. Easy.
Now the GPU, just remove one anti-dust slot and place your videocard in the PCI-Express slot (usually it has a blueish color) Check manual if you are unsure.
Now the hard Drive, DvD drive etc.
Every case has its own bays where they fit in, see the manual supplied with the case where to put them, this features screwing them tight so they stay in place, thats easy.
Then just connect all cables, manual also covers that, and behold, close the case, put the plug in the wall, and hit that power on button.
1000 euro is alot yes, I know, but what i'm asking from the pc isn't that low either :)
aslong as it'll last long enough i'll be glad enough as it is, the sites don't matter where it comes from, I did assemble this one but the parts where given by the store :o
Some say I should get 550+ watt to last for a while
and about 2GB memory
don't know really, the price is said, doesn't need to be maxed, aslong as I can do what I stated above, pwn gw at full settings while being on msn, use firefox and run my security
if you picked ... motherboard could you also explain why? :)
grtz and thnks in advance!
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I think that's what you mean right? Explaining why i chose that over something else etc.
Ok, im going to ask some questions first;
What will you keep from your old computer?
Casing (is it a normal one you see on internet, or for example a mini-shuttle or Compact one)
Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers, will you keep those, or do you think you want something else.
If so, i can also give you Optional things that you may decide to invest upon perhaps later on, or that you want included.
For example, no idea if you have it, but if you want a keyboard that might be handy for gaming, such as GW's, you could buy the Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (Link)
Give me that information about what you keep and want to buy new, and i'l get on it.
(im already presuming you want new motherboard, CPU etc. But i dont know what you want to keep like the monitor or keyboard)
Monitor
Mouse
Keyboard
CD-Drive
Floppy ( though I'd like 2... )
Question:
I've read about floppy drives being combined with these card readers you'll find in the newest psp's and stuff
Worthwhile? else I'll just add another card reader :)
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Monitor
Mouse
Keyboard
CD-Drive
Floppy ( though I'd like 2... )
Question:
I've read about floppy drives being combined with these card readers you'll find in the newest psp's and stuff
Worthwhile? else I'll just add another card reader :)
That i dont know, if its an old floppy drive you cant use new cards with it, thats for sure.
All in one card readers are too cheap for words, your better of f buying one with a USB cable, saves you trouble having installation problems.
Ok, we PM'd a bit already, so i just went on a place i know is a good website, you can ofcourse choose your own, but atleast i got the components listed and with the ''average'' price of them.
I dont do 19.99 stuff, i always do 20 then, for the sake of ease.
A Pc Case is vital, i mean, you wanna spread your components all over the ground? ofcourse not, i presuming your going to keep it at home, so why spend so much on a ''pimped'' computer case, when you never look at it besides hitting the power button? So why spend money on style when simplicity can win the day. This Case has no power supply whatsoever, just an empty case, just what we need.
Card Reader, might aswell huh?
AC Ryan USB2.0 Cardreader 5.25 inch
€12
You requested a Card Reader, i Deliver, this card reader is 5.25 Inch so it will fit right under (or above) your DvD Drive. I do suggest it underneath, place your DvD drive always on top so the heat from it can dissipate through the casings side a bit. Features just about every card available i think.
I chose for you Intel, we're going for Quadcore cause you got money to spend, but more on that later.
This motherboard has all gadgets and gizmo's you probably will ever need, the crown on this baby is this:
SLi 16x
SLi = Scalable Link interface, and it runs at 16x, thats the fastest possible connection that exists right now. With this, you can fit in Two (2) Videocards and almost Double your Graphics Horsepower, Game On!
We're going Quad, hewl yeah, Intel simply has the lead here with quadcores, AMD has some problems with that, and we dont want problems, or want to wait them to be fixed.
Its expensive, but this Intel Quadcore simply is The Best Bang for Buck. If you look at the power/price ratio, this one simply is the best choice now. It features enough power to handle any game you can throw at it!
We need RAM, and we'll get lots of it, it might be a bit more expensive, but each chip has 2GB of space, DDR2 memory currently is still cheap though.
This is the top of the line fastest RAM chips available, you'll get two for a total of 4GB of RAM, and to let them run Dual-Channel on your Motherboard. Many games today still dont get past 2GB of RAM, with 4GB your assured to have enough space for the coming years.
at 496 Euro's now, expensive those few bits, but we still got over 500 to spend, keep that in mind!
Hard Drive:
Samsung SpinPoint F1,7200RPM, SATA II, 32MB, 750GB
We obviously need a hard drive, so we'll get this one, with 750GB you obviously have enough i reckon. the 32MB cache increases performance, not much to say other than that you have alot, and i mean, ALOT of Gigabytes now.
It's expensive, its powerfull, its the latest updated series of Nvidia. The GTS series has been upgraded to 512MB, its predecessors with 640-320MB have less power, cost more (even now somehow) and lack the power that this puppy has.
Yes its expensive, but simply, this one can even because its overclocked beat the 8800Ultra with core speeds, only its memory is slightly slower, so if you turn around fast, maybe it has a minor hitch the 8800Ultra Doesn't have, but that one costs 300 more.
This videocard simply has everything you can desire, for now, we'll just keep one, maybe in the future, you can get two, and run them in SLi, imagine that, just imagine the raw graphics power!
We need a Power Supply, and we need a big one.
Here's one, 600Watts in raw electric power, this will easily be enough for your system, and just because it says 600 doesnt mean your computer will ever use 600, a raw calculation made me get to around 400-500 watts your current system will suck at full load, meaning your Power Supply is more then enough you need, if you go SLi, it wont have to be replaced, as it will then be nearing the limit of what it can offer, thats what i kept in mind.
We're at 990 Euro's now, i guess that's a nice price isn't it?
You got everything you need i think, unless you need speakers aswell, but even so, maybe for now you can just keep a headset or something, cause this PC will rock your world for years to come, that i assure you.
Later on you can perhaps upgrade with a better soundcard, and perhaps fit in another 8800GTS 512MB card, so you got (almost) twice the graphics power.
I think i have everything listed, im a bit tired, so errors can be told and il correct them tommorow, i glad to have been of service to you, and i hope you like what i could come up with.
If you got any suggestions, things you want added, just tell me, il see what i can do and get the price under 1000 cause theres perhaps something that can be found cheaper. Either way, Good Luck!
^^Nice work! Don't forget to equate the OS costs too.
True, il check that tommorow, dont know what Shi- i mean, Vista costs anyways, im still far from interested, but i guess he needs it for dual core support or something.
The only reason to get vista from a hardware standpoint would be to get your money's worth out of 4 gigs of ram due to 32-bit limitation. Make sure to get 64 bit vista if you end up getting that much, or you'll only use 3-3.5 of it. XP runs dual-core processors just fine. (or perhaps I just don't know mine's not running on both cores!)
If you go with Forumite's build make sure you're getting an 8800GTS with the G92 core, with 112 stream processors.
Not the old, crappier GTS.
Also, if you have the cash to spend you could go with an nVidia 9 series being released in February.
Just remember that GW can be fully maxed with a very cheap graphics card but it won't be able to play many new games coming out.
Well, 32-Bit Windows XP is limited to a number of Adresses it gives to everything in your computer.
As some know, you can turn off (depends on the motherboard) PCI Slots in the BIOS, when you do that, you get more MB's in Windows, however, the more PCI Cards your using (E.G Audiocard, Network etc. etc.) the less ofcourse you can do this.
The only thing i noticed was yes, i forgot the Operating System, i dont know if you got a CD of Windows XP lying around, you could use that.
IF you do want to buy Vista, just get one RAMchip instead of 2, should leave enough money for Vista.
Good Luck with building, its really easy, and saves so much money, i think if you'd buy a computer with these things that is pre-built... well. The shop here sells something like that except with a weaker Graphics Card for 1600 euro's, 600 euro's to save 2 hours of valuable experience is worthless. Its all Click it in N Play.
01/25/08 13:40
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