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Belshazaarswrath

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The number one rule of Amp

So yea I was gazing through the rules today and I noticed something. The very first rule at game amp is as follows.

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1. Show respect to your fellow players at all times.

Yea so what the hell ever happened to that? It seems to me that every thread somehow disintegrates to nothing but disrespectful comments for no reason(especially in the screenshots section).

So since this is the first and foremost rule in the forum guidelines how come people aren't being penalized for flouting the rules outright almost every day?

Then if that isn't enough there is this rule. Rule number 3.

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3. Personal attacks are prohibited. If you disagree with the opinions and posts of another member of the community, please do so in a constructive manner.

It goes along with number 1 of course. People break this rule along with rule one on almost a daily basis. And it's the same people. And it seems as if almost nothing is happening to these people.

Sooo WhaTdFxupwhitdat?

02/07/08 20:59

Mimori

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

Hehe that's a good question. But the admins will have to discuss it among themselves what they do about members. =)

Normally they're nice about it and give them a chance before out right banning/punishing.

02/07/08 21:01

Belshazaarswrath

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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Yea I know they are flexible about most of the rules. And that is a good thing or the forum would suffer from being way to uptight...but this has been a recurring problem and it's really degenerating the forum mas a whole. It's the same people over and over and over again. It's almost as if they are trying to give game amp a snob makeover. And the only reason I went here and stayed was because I couldn't stand the pretentiousness of other forums.

I don't know if there is so much of it going on that they are overwhelmed or that they aren't noticing what is extraordinarily clear to me.

Bottom line. I have been here a long time. And for a long time game amp has been good to me and and it's members. There have been little problems here and there but they have been dealt with. At this point I see a problem and when people are suppose to step in....I am seeing no action taken.

02/07/08 21:07

Mimori

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

Yeah, It seems like that. I've noticed a few members really disrespecting each other multiple times... Its bad when a forum becomes uptight. But the members are stretching their limits on what they're getting away with...

I personally left the site for awhile because it was drama. Hehe. It's not horrible right now, but theres some sour people about...

Hehe. I guess its best waiting to hear from an admin. =)

They'll be able to explain a bit more about whats going on then I can. =)

02/07/08 21:13

Belshazaarswrath

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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I dunno I think ex fearless leaders have pretty valid opinions too :)

Anyway I think I recall the drama you speak of. Yea...people called each other out with threads and it was like something out of a shoujo manga...all very weird.

02/07/08 21:18

Lord_of_Darkness

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

I think the people in here are so up tight that they cant tell if somthing is meant to be funny or mean.

02/07/08 22:25

Rogue

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

Lord of Darkness, That's definitely true. I used to use condescension as a means to be funny. But then people started taking me seriously and it wasn't fun anymore. So now I pretty much have to be horrendously boring until someone says something dumb that I can prove wrong with random stuff that I pull out of thin air. Most people on this forum don't know how to argue properly, or without throwing in an insult somewhere.

The number one reason that people insult each other is because what they were originally arguing about is something that they can't win. Like an "Ele's do more damage than warriors" type thing. The person arguing ele's, if they were really stubborn, would eventually have to insult the other person for being mean or something. That would then put the person arguing for warriors onto the defensive. On to a different argument that is emotional, not logical. And nobody wins in emotional arguments.

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02/07/08 22:43

Jamnog

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

I get angry. But I try to put my point across without insulting people. Its hard but I find the post in the vidio section the one with the paladin. cant find the video thread now :(

02/07/08 22:59

Hijaru Ta

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

i respect everybody :D
/hug

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02/08/08 00:06

Exofluke

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

I had stopped posting for awhile because everytime I seem to find an interesting topic about someone asking a question or something. There always seems to be someone posting a negative comment and thus it usually leads off topic from there. Hopefully this forum can improve :D

02/08/08 02:30

Chrisworld

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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lol rogue your awesome

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02/08/08 06:04

lani

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

Rogue made a very good point, here's another (I think).

The amount of people including negative posts has not risen nearly as high as their ability to derail threads with their negativity. And that's not due to them, but the people who hate them for doing it the most. Half the problem is people pouncing on every jerky comment.

What am I saying? Well, people don't go "Ohhhkay, whatever rocks your boat bud. Back to topic" but instead jump on them like a bunch of morale knights, going into lengthy debates about the negativity and in the process giving the perps exactly what they want. Attention. Derailment And the Drama Mimori already mentioned.

Keep in mind, whenever there's a fight a hockey game may break out. Errr, I mean, whenever there's a fight there's more than one party fighting. Don't pick up the gauntlet thrown but just step over it with a I'm-above-this smile on your faceand get on with the topic. Maybe report the perp if he's doing it too frequently. Anything else just gives the people spoiling for a fight exactly what they want. You are upset about the argument, they relish it. So why give them the satisfaction. Don't let them drag you down to their level.

02/08/08 08:27

IamHighVoltage

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

In my opinion Amp has degraded. So many great people have left, and the new ranks are not of the same caliber. It is a Dusty shell of its former greatness.

The days of great debates are over. Deep posts form Nihil, witty remarks from Black Phoenix, gentle cattle prodding from the Jeni. Now even Evil Geek has left. You can see from their profiles that some of them still login, but they do not post.

Why?

There is nothing worthwhile to post about, thats why. Almost every thread turns into petty bickering. The maturity level of this forum has dropped dramatically. People cannot even post a simple screen shot without a snide comment being made about it.

I don't even know why I am bothering to post this as I am sure someone will attack it because they believe I have somehow insulted them personally.

02/08/08 08:40

Chrisworld

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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/attack post!!!

lol jk

You are right, i agree 100%.

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02/08/08 08:49

Xaviak

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

Ya, actually I don't have nothing constructive to say.:P

Though, one time I wondered what was up with the mods when there was some thread in the top 5 where people started to pick on some guy for something. I kept my eye on the top 5 list for a while, and I noticed that a mod logged on and started replying on the top 5 posts. I was waiting for the mod to get to that flammable threand and either lock it or tell the people to quit fighting over the issue. Somehow, the mod managed skip that thread and I was sorta bummed. :/

The reason why things that I mentioned happen is, because some of the trollers are members with alot of knowledge of the game. And eventhough they might troll at times, they also contribute lots of information to the community, so I guess for that reason they get off with trolling.Like this one person who (to my knowledge) knew alot about PvP seemed to get away with ALOT of things that others would've gotten banned on the spot, never to be seen again. And just because he knew alot about PvP and was "inreplaceable" for that reason.As if he was favored by the mods who are quite PvP oriented these days. (And no, I'm not talking about Megido! He knows alot aswell but he's not the one I'm talking about now. :P)

Rogue made some good points. And I have to admit that many times I've gotten somehow annoyed by some of his posts at first, but later on realized what he was really saying, and that it was based on humour. His sense of humor is too complex for me to realize on the spot. :P

But yeah, remember to eat your veggies, stay at school and be nice. ^^

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02/08/08 09:09

Wyat_hawke

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

If I may sum up with one sentence before I leave for the cinema, I'd like to say this:

You can't really expect lengthy and detailed discussions over a game that's been out for almost 3 years.

(I'll add one of those 2-page-essays later, when I get back... And when Lani isn't watching >_>)

02/08/08 09:10

Mimori

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

Here’s a more lengthy, thought out reply.

I’ve played with Rogue for ages, so I know his humor pretty well, he’s a joker. =)
Completely fun though, hints why I played with him so long.

Wyat made a good point, the fact that Guild Wars is three years old makes us feel we don’t really need to contribute anymore to the public.

I however, think a bit differently. Especially sense I received a very kind private message asking me to continue making guides.

I intend to do just that when I can get a hold of my photoshop. I intend to also make signatures and other things for the community.

Just because the games a little old… doesn’t mean I don’t play anymore. There’s always a new combination of skills/tactics/etc that people can offer to teach each other. I just have a real life right now, which I’m concentrating more so on. But I still enjoy helping people…

Especially sense Eye of the North isn’t that old yet! People can still offer Builds/Skills and even teach people how to Hero/Henchmen effectively; considering parties aren’t as easily found now.

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There are lots of things people could share. Most of us (Not me…I’m only two years hehehehe) have Three Years under our belts and have yet offered the majority of the things we learned to the community…If you’re going to join a Fan Site for the game, let’s enjoy it then shall we?

But like Lani pointed out. People jump up to defend or even agree on one jerky comment. I just try to ignore it now; it’s not my job to jump on anybody. I mean, usually, Admins Private Message the User if it’s just one person making a scene. Members just need to keep in mind not to feed the fire and comment on it… If it’s something that Admins should have their attention on, private message an Admin, and they’ll take care of it. =) That’s what they’re for!

Hehe, I just think people need to chill out a bit…Even if we don’t just talk about Guild Wars, which would kind of be boring, we can have a good time.

I trust the admins will make the best decisions for the members. I don’t expect things to be perfect, I just hope that people can just stay on topic and ignore something that isn’t nice…

That’s all I can really think of at the moment. Haha! Hopefully I didn’t fall off topic too much! I had a lot of sugar x_x so hyper right now! Ahh! =p

02/08/08 10:23

XMegidoX

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

E-drama is win. That is all.

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s**t, meg doesnt approve...it blows

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02/08/08 10:37

stanzhao1

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

meh, i've not even been on this site a year yet, and the game as mentioned has been out for nearly 3 now. doesnt mean i cant find anything that i can contribute with.

Some members who have been here for the whole hog still find time to post new guides or comment on peoples builds etc. its just down to how people take it. some can handle it some cant.

one prime example was revbudgreen, he came on the site all guns blazing, but after a while, he got to know people and visa versa. but some poeple will always remain the same, its what makes a 'community' as such.

and it pisses me off when people say they dont post anymore because of what other people are doing. your probably the type of person who watches an old man fall down a hole and just walk on by. a community wont get better by people walking away from something, its everyone here who has to make it better. the more people who turn a blind eye and go 'meh', the worse its gonna get.

02/08/08 11:02

Belshazaarswrath

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

When Rouge makes comments that seem rude or offensive...they are pretty blatant sarcasm and only the slow pick up their pitchforks and attack.

And Megido...well he sometimes insults people but he usually couples that with a valid point.

Anyway if a actual discussion is occurring and something productive is being done...Leeway should and must be allowed in order for there to be actual productivity here.

I am more referring to people just out and out changing the subject to insult people.

Like for example when Lord Of Darkness posted something...and everyone flamed him for his typing skills(which has happened on several occasions). Every member involved with actually insulting him directly should be banned at least temporarily. Why?

First of all if you said some of the crap to him face to face he would likely punch you in your face straight up.

Second of all you are completely ignoring the topic and talking about something completely different(spamming no?).

Lastly You aren't being constructive in the slightest. You aren't telling him "You should probably try to type more clearly." Hell you aren't even being witty and saying "What does kcehclleps backwards spell?"

Your just saying "Your stupid get out." which is useless on every level.

You guys who know me should know I am not an inflexible moron or an overly sensitive baby. I am a person who enjoys a thread that at least moves smoothly. And wasting space posting about someones typing skills is not a smoothly running thread.

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02/08/08 15:45

stanzhao1

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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First of all if you said some of the crap to him face to face he would likely punch you in your face straight up.

i think thats 2-pac

02/08/08 16:43

XMegidoX

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

I just read this and noticed my name popping up a few times. Erm, I'm honoured, I guess.

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HackingHippie89

s**t, meg doesnt approve...it blows

02/08/08 16:51

Xaviak

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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I just read this and noticed my name popping up a few times. Erm, I'm honoured, I guess.

Don't take it the bad way. :P
Thought I'd clarify a bit ,since ,as far as I know, you're known for your PvP Skills and I didn't want people to mix you with the one I was talking about.

But yeah, you're famous. :P

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02/08/08 16:56

XMegidoX

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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I just read this and noticed my name popping up a few times. Erm, I'm honoured, I guess.

Or my trolling :p

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HackingHippie89

s**t, meg doesnt approve...it blows

02/08/08 16:58

aznese guy

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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true that rogue. everytime i used to read one of your older threads i thought it was kinda funny but now everything you say is just utterly stupid/boring to the point where you're not rogue anymore!*gasp* anyways...yeah winless arguments are always fun to watch since its all about opinions. i personally like mesmer(b4 quitting) over other classes. but a lot of people hate mesmers too. same with the whole gw vs. wow rants. stupid stuff turns into lame 12 yr old kid arguments lol

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Or my trolling :p

you're pretty much the best r5 troll out there

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quit gw for good. end of story.

02/08/08 17:14

XMegidoX

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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Or my trolling :p

you're pretty much the best r5 troll out there

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HackingHippie89

s**t, meg doesnt approve...it blows

02/08/08 17:16

aznese guy

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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WOW SUX, GW ROOLZ!!!1!

WTF? u need to stfu gtfo lmao lol rofl dude. epic phailage! roffles!!!!! GW PWNS!

U need to get a life you non life haver since you like wow and wow is like teh phail nub. just get a life or gtfo duh. im 12 btw and apparently get a life nub is the best insult ever and you can go QQ.

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quit gw for good. end of story.

02/08/08 17:19

XMegidoX

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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WOW SUX, GW ROOLZ!!!1!

LOLZ GO SUX A LEMON!!1!11oneoneoneoneoneone!!!!1!!1!eleven!!!

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HackingHippie89

s**t, meg doesnt approve...it blows

02/08/08 17:23

aznese guy

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

SUX A LEMON?! dat da best u can doo? nub gtfo. just gtfo nub. just gtfo.

quit gw for good. end of story.

02/08/08 17:25

XMegidoX

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RE: The number one rule of Amp

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SUX A LEMON?! dat da best u can doo? nub gtfo. just gtfo nub. just gtfo.

Some guy that I went to school with used that as a "come-back" to insults. We just called him gay when he said that. :p

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HackingHippie89

s**t, meg doesnt approve...it blows

02/08/08 17:38

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