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Lightfoot27
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So, I was running some RWZ missions yesterday and I came to the realization... up until now my tactic for large xp on my scrapper is to charge a group with a comm specialist in it, let him get his portal out, dragons tail to dmg both the comm specialist and his portal, and ko the specialist to kill both. Great xp, if you can keep the strategy up in large numbers. Yesterday, no xp for portal kill. No xp for killing the portal itself. RIKTI PORTALS AREN'T GIVING XP!!! I didn't see mention of this anywhere in the patch, admittidly, I was scanning for the juicy bits, but did anyone else know about this?
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| 02/13/08 11:20 |
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Chuck Bronco
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Oh no, I hope that is a bug you encountered. I always zero in on the portals when the commo opens them.
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| 02/13/08 12:05 |
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Big yay for this!^^
This tactic was always stupid IMO.
The rewarding tactic should be to prevent(!) the opening of a portal.
I hope this is a fix, not a bug.
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| 02/13/08 12:35 |
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On the offical boards, the Devs said that yes, the portals don't give XP now, BUT they made the comm officers give Lieut. lvl rewards to compensate for it.
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| 02/13/08 12:36 |
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You might want to /bug it and see what NCSoft support has to say about it. May be a bug, and never hurts to report it. At the very least, you'll get an answer.
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| 02/13/08 12:39 |
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Lightfoot27
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Well, dang. I guess thats it for RWZ for me. This was the great rebalance that was given to make the rikti (a rather difficult and pesky baddie class) worth the extra effort. So much for them being worth it now. Who wants to fight a group that can stack thru your mez shield when there aren't any extra rewards?
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| 02/13/08 13:07 |
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BigChill
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Its a change they added in the test server, had to dig around a bit to find it (and I hate doin that) but I did. They removed the exp/inf from portals, along with not getting any from what comes out, and gave the Comm Officers Ltn. exp/inf values instead. Its a better tradeoff IMO, you get credit for preventing it, not expoiting it.
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| 02/13/08 13:43 |
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Lightfoot27
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They could have at least allowed the cons to give xp, seems silly to cut the bonus by so much and give so little back.
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| 02/13/08 13:54 |
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BigChill
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Yeah, its the devs for ya. Change at will with no viable explination. Leaves teh rest of us to guess what it may be, and that's teh best there is ATM.
Big Chill is a conscranker: he conrols a mob so they do nothing, scraps a target till they can't stand, and tanks what's left till the job's done.
Dive in, have fun, and think about it later.
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| 02/13/08 13:59 |
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Lightfoot27
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Yeah, spose I'm just spouting sour grapes... I just found that little portal as an exciting aspect of battle... a little excitement to an otherwise dreary opponent. Its funny how entertaining something can be in hindsight when it is taken away.
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| 02/13/08 14:09 |
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Yeah, like me enjoying a reliable pause button by simply auto-ing Frozen Aura when I need to be afk a bit... another fun thing I'll miss. :(
Big Chill is a conscranker: he conrols a mob so they do nothing, scraps a target till they can't stand, and tanks what's left till the job's done.
Dive in, have fun, and think about it later.
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| 02/13/08 14:36 |
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The boost they gave to Comm Officers is no where NEAR what the portal was worth. Comm Officers already HAD boosted experience. Raising them to Lt level experience only made them worth slightly more than they were originally.
RWZ missions are still worth it for me, because Rikti pose very little threat to me, but they're worth a bit less now. Thankfully I have an active SG I can run scanner missions with.
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| 02/13/08 16:09 |
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Yeah, but it digs back to this all being the dev's choice. Someplace I read (and I know its the offical boards, just not where) that the devs think the game should work against the player, especially when they advance. Well, this seems to work against the player quite well...
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Dive in, have fun, and think about it later.
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| 02/14/08 00:16 |
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I don't see this being that big of a deal. Yes the portal rewards were nice, but with the XP increase across all levels I for one am not going to miss it.
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| 02/14/08 09:12 |
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I might be wrong but didn’t the Devs say a long time back (like pre issue 9) that summoned things where not ment to count for XP. Though they said this in response to the COT portals that summoned Demons. I never watched when was fighting Rikti, always just assumed that the portal and those coming out where not worth XP.
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| 02/14/08 10:21 |
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The enemies coming out weren't meant to give XP, however the portal itself was intended to give XP
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| 02/14/08 12:46 |
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| QUOTE | | The enemies coming out weren't meant to give XP, however the portal itself was intended to give XP |
They were indeed giving XP. I was level 45 and getting anywhere from 10,000 to 15,000 for portals (level 46 - 48) in the Rikti War Zone.
I noticed this as well. Although, I enjoyed the XP, I do think it was a bit extreme for those. I would rather they made it more Lt. or Boss level rather then take it fully away... but there are other things to arrest.
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| 02/14/08 12:52 |
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Sit and relax kiddies and let Grampa Ron tell you a little Rikti Story.
Long ago, in a CoH far far away, the Rikti came! They arrived on their mothership and raided Paragon City! Thus ended the Beta Test event and started the Live Servers.
These Rikti and their Communications Officers, opened Portals from which more and more Rikti came. Killing these spawned Rikti resulted in the same experience you would get from killing any enemy...since you still had to work to kill it. Then came the Vile Exploiters! They used this Rikti Power to their advantage, making bots to gain experience while they were AFK!
So the developers "nerfed" the experience from any beings that come out of portals. But, knowing this would cause a problem with the user community, they boosted the experience from the portals themselves to make up for it. (Same went for CoT portals and the demons coming out of them)
Now, months later, the Rikti Warzone is introduced, allowing the userbase to have unlimited Rikti missions. So because of this, our Wonderful Development Team has decided that the portals are giving too much experience and BAM! No more.
So...I suspect there will be an uprising once more.
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| 02/14/08 18:18 |
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Thank you... it helps to have some of the history behind the decisions made. Like I said, I understand why they did it, that was way to much XP for something that was really pretty easy to take out.
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| 02/15/08 06:16 |
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IMO, they should have at least kept it Minion level experience. You had to work to make sure the portal got opened. If you had any kind of AoE with a damage component, the Comm Officer wouldn't open the portal. So there was actually effort there to get the experience.
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| 02/15/08 08:11 |
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I all ways thought the xp for portals was odd, in a basic story telling way. I all ways hit the comms officer 1st as it seemed that is what you'd normally do in "real life", maybe I'm just odd :)
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| 02/15/08 15:39 |
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RonJ73
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Initially portals didn't really give any or much experience, but because the minions spawned by the portal were nerfed, they increased the portal experience.
Now the portal experience has been nerfed and the Comm Officers were boosted. So new tactic, kil...err..."arrest" the Comm Officer first.
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| 02/16/08 09:21 |
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