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bytekhan
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I think we've all heard of people that have soloed an AV but I'm just wondering how they are accomplishing this? What archetype are people using? I've been told by a number of blasters that they've solo'ed an AV but I find it hard to believe. They can deal the damage but sooner or later health has to become an issue. I could possibly see a tank soloing an AV but it seems like at best it would be a draw. Can a 'troller with some pets/debuffs/etc do it?
Is a temp power necessary?
Just wondering...
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| 02/21/08 17:25 |
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Esh
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Having done it on most of the ATs, I don't think it is too hard for even something squishy like a controller. You just need a Shivan shard from Bloody Bay, and a full tray of inspirations. 4 purples is enough to make you almost untouchable to most AVs, though against one with a defense debuff 5-6 is needed. Just fight it like you would a normal boss, and if you get aggro, purp up. If you are a solo AT, you might be able to do it without a Shivan, though it can be hard.
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| 02/21/08 17:58 |
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I've done it with my Stone/SS tank. Tossed out a shivan and a couple of nukes from warburg and went to town on him. Having Rage really helped to put out the damage necessary to overcome the AVs regen.
Most Rad defenders probably could do it, as Rad's debuffs would leave them pretty safe while allowing them to put out alot of damage. Add in the -regen from Lingering Radiation, and maybe a shivan and/or warburg nuke, and you should be able to do it. Dark Miasma is another set that has a good amount of debuff safety, while having a means to reduce resistance in Tar Patch, and having two sources of -regen, namely Twilight Grasp and Howling Twilight.
Rad controllers, especially those more offensively built, like Grav and Fire, probably could take down an AV as well, again, with assistance from Shivans and/or Nukes.
I've seen videos of Thug/Dark, Nin/Dark, Thug/Poison, and Nin/Poison all take down AVs. Again, the awesome debuffs result in relative safety, and increased damage output. Add in sources of -regen and Shivans/Nukes, and it can pretty easily be done.
A challenge I've laid for myself is to attempt it with my Kat/SR scrapper. I'm sure I can manage to avoid the incoming damage rather easily, especially when I get my set bonuses going, so that it'd just be a matter of putting out the damage, most likely with the help if Shivans and Nukes. =D
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| 02/21/08 18:42 |
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Yeah, it can be done with anybody, and even my arctic has done it, though the damage peice is the killer. Gotta love HVAS :)
Now with purps, yeah that's the easy answer, sometimes its just the build combo, but its not impossible. Shivans are the easiest answer to help, mostly due to the -def adding up with its EB dmg to be abel to counter that, and your hitting more. Warburg Nukes do the same thing, and last for 3-5 min, more than enough for the debuff/buff combo to drag an AV down to size.
The easiest AT to do this with is MMs. Their combo of pets and debuffs will translate into a rather funny fight. There is no reason most MMs can't accomplish it, aside from the regen of the AVs. Hence, the debuffs making it easy.
Tanks come second. Mostly due to their survival ratings, then probably scrappers and brutes a close 3rd. All others rank someplace under that, but rely far more heavily on insp and tactics to do it.
Kinda reminds me of the other night, me (Big Chill) and a srcapper and blaster trio took out Manticore and Positron automatons, with only a HVAAS backup for manti. Man that was fun.
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| 02/21/08 20:44 |
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I soloed most of the AVs thru the Praetorian arc with my fire/elec blaster, most with the help of a shivan, but some without. The only one that gave me issues was ShadowHunter, he handed me my... shivan... :)
Just approach em carefully, use whatever tactics you need to and don't thnk less of it if you drop a shivan for the debuffs.
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| 02/21/08 21:36 |
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rad/rad fenders are the easiest to do it with. my SG leader is known as the Tankfender on guardian, ive 2 manned many AVs with him having aggro, and never even losing health. ive also heard of him soloing those same ones, and since all i am is a little extra damage, i dont doubt any of it
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| 02/22/08 02:13 |
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Are we actually talking Arch Villain or Elite Bosses?
I have never bothered with loading up a team, then spawning the map to insure an AV ( requires 5 on team if I recall ), only to Solo them. Elite Bosses on medium to high difficulty are pretty challenging anyway, seemed like a lot of extra time and work, and as a Tank, having a team enhances the experience, also the XP on the mission is better . I have done a few solo over the years, when the team would break up before we got it done. With Marine (Inv/SS Tank), pop about 5 Reds, an orange, hit Rage and if necessary hit Unstoppable to finish them off. With Livingston (Stone/Axe Tank) a few reds, Granite, Rooted and Hasten (and pop blues as needed). Have never tried with Goldfever (Ill/Kinetic Troller) but haven't done any of my own AV Arcs with him yet, plus he needs a bit of Enhancement rework, still almost all SO. With Fulcrum Shift properly slotted I would think he could pull it off, with a few purples or oranges, and hasten to keep Phantom Army from having long lapses.
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| 02/22/08 04:20 |
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Back in early issues soloing av's was fairly easy, especially if you were a regen scrap. Back then, instant healing was a toggle, it was fantastic.
Nowadays, I can solo most any Elite Boss level arch-villian, but certainly not av's. Of course, I also don't use shivans or nukes for the most part. Running elude on my sr scrapper, I have taken down a few EB's but if I don't get the job done before the crash, I'm toast. I haven't had the best luck with blasters and EB's, they just output too much dmg too quickly for me to survive.
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| 02/22/08 09:37 |
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MightySmiter
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if we are talking about EBs then yeah ive soloed the entire tyrant story arc, so ive fought them all lol. even soloed the lvl 50 TF in orborous. definetly not hard as a scrapper, just load up on purples
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| 02/22/08 10:39 |
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Assuming the OP is referring to AV-class (as opposed to EB-class) villains: yes, it is possible. I built an Illusion / Radiation Controller for just this purpose. It is certainly possible without Shivans, Warwolves, or other temp powers. I refer you to this guide I wrote recently:
http://cityofheroes.gameamp.com/guide/view...42.php!orderBy=
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| 02/22/08 11:12 |
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