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Making a character just for a self rez 

So I'm thinking of making a stalker on my second account and leveling her/him/it to 35 for the self rez. That way I can go to Warburg and continuously kill her with the rez on auto for the 400 rep badge.

First of all, would that even work? Can you put a rez on auto? Second, is there an easier way that someone knows? I don't have weeks to spend in constant PvP for this badge. If I'm ever going to see it, I'm going to need to get creative.

By the way, I'm aware that a tank can get a self rez at level 26 (which would be way better), but I don't think Jordan could KILL a tank with only a single power on auto-fire... What do you guys think? Unslotted tank at level 26, could a fully slotted defender take them down?

Keep in mind that this will be a willpower tank.
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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

You can also just fill your tray with Awakens, as that's what several folks I know do.



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

Whether this'll work depends on how fast the self-rez recharges. If it's really fast, it won't work. The same target doesn't count for a set period of time (don't ask me how long that is).

However, if the recharge is pretty long, I guess it could work.



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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You can also just fill your tray with Awakens, as that's what several folks I know do.


But that will only get you so many rezzes, where a self rez will last forever.




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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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Whether this'll work depends on how fast the self-rez recharges. If it's really fast, it won't work. The same target doesn't count for a set period of time (don't ask me how long that is).

However, if the recharge is pretty long, I guess it could work.


Self rez is 5 minute delay unslotted. I think the time-out is 10 minutes, but still. All that means is that only every other rez would count. Even then, if there's roughly one kill per 10 minutes, that 6 points per hour... Ouch. so it would take like 80 hours straight. 10 days of nighttime sessions.

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My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.

Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Shazel 35 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 35 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 36 Warshade, Jordan Yang 33 Peacebringer
Mudnuke 38 Earth/Rad Controller
Doctor Kev 38 Necro/Dark Mastermind
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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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Whether this'll work depends on how fast the self-rez recharges. If it's really fast, it won't work. The same target doesn't count for a set period of time (don't ask me how long that is).

However, if the recharge is pretty long, I guess it could work.


Self rez is 5 minute delay unslotted. I think the time-out is 10 minutes, but still. All that means is that only every other rez would count. Even then, if there's roughly one kill per 10 minutes, that 6 points per hour... Ouch. so it would take like 80 hours straight. 10 days of nighttime sessions.

This badge is a Beotch.


Hence why awakens is faster. But you're more than welcome to use the self-rez technique.





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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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Whether this'll work depends on how fast the self-rez recharges. If it's really fast, it won't work. The same target doesn't count for a set period of time (don't ask me how long that is).

However, if the recharge is pretty long, I guess it could work.


Self rez is 5 minute delay unslotted. I think the time-out is 10 minutes, but still. All that means is that only every other rez would count. Even then, if there's roughly one kill per 10 minutes, that 6 points per hour... Ouch. so it would take like 80 hours straight. 10 days of nighttime sessions.

This badge is a Beotch.


Hence why awakens is faster. But you're more than welcome to use the self-rez technique.


But I heard there's a delay where the kill won't count. In this case, faster is not as good. Especially since you couldn't leave it on overnight. You'd only be able to do it for a minute or two until your awakens ran out.




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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

Can I just interject something here?

Even if you managed this, with a power on Auto, your AFK timeout is still going to knock you offline.

If it DIDN'T, it would be considered Botting, which I understand is considered an exploit and against the EULA.

So you might not want to do that.



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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Can I just interject something here?

Even if you managed this, with a power on Auto, your AFK timeout is still going to knock you offline.

If it DIDN'T, it would be considered Botting, which I understand is considered an exploit and against the EULA.

So you might not want to do that.


I'm not so sure of that. People in the main forums say that you can take an Ouroboros TF to prevent the AFK timer from knocking you offline. I would assume that if that were common knowledge in the main forums and the devs don't make a stink about it, they don't have an issue with it the way it's being used.

As far as the EULA, I think that if you're not huring other players explicitly or implicitly and you're not farming for money (selling your accounts or services to someone else), then I don't see an issue with it.

For example, using the "Magic Desk" trick to float objects in bases is an "exploit", but the Devs put a sticky to the post about it in the forums. Just because it's an exploit doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong.

But even if you're right, I can still use the technique of logging all my characters into the account and killing them one at a time. It will take a while, but what else can I do?



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Estimated next play month starts May 26th

My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.

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Shazel 35 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 35 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 36 Warshade, Jordan Yang 33 Peacebringer
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Doctor Kev 38 Necro/Dark Mastermind
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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

The floating desk trick shouldnt be labeled an exploit because it just looks cool and give your characters no advantage over toons who's desks obey the laws of gravity.

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As far as the EULA, I think that if you're not huring other players explicitly or implicitly and you're not farming for money (selling your accounts or services to someone else), then I don't see an issue with it.


that doesnt mean it's not technically an illegal action. I eat candy from the bins at the grocery store, but it's still shoplifting.


The ouroboros TF thing may be true, but it's still not a PvP zone. And I guarantee it will be fixed relatively soon, probably within at least a month. They usually don't fix exploits immediately. They wait until a few things need changed at once unless they completely break the game.


The only way you could get around this is to get a ball bearing or small paper weight heavy enough to hold down your space bar all night long.



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

Right, if it's a major exploit (game breaking) they'll fix it right away. This doesn't really HURT anyone, but it's a way to get a badge and reputation without actually doing anything. It's the whole "reward with little or no risk" thing.

The point of reputation is that you're ACTUALLY beating people in PvP, not botting to get the badge.

There's the whole "damage and healing" exploit too that isn't a big deal, but still is considered an exploit. (Sit in a door mission with a few minions beating on you while you have Reconstruction or another self heal on auto...or teamed with a defender with Heal Aura so you both build up badgey goodness)

Not game breaking, but still a "cheap win".



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

if u really want the rep badge so bad might i suggest just pvping for it?



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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Not game breaking, but still a "cheap win".


Agreed. I hate to even consider it, but if I am ever to expereience some of the game play, this is my only option. Though I've played CoX since it's release, I only got my 9 month Vet reward badge this last week because I'm inactive so much of the time.

And the magic desks floating can make bases harder to raid compared to one that doesn't have them.




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Estimated next play month starts May 26th

My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.

Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Shazel 35 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 35 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 36 Warshade, Jordan Yang 33 Peacebringer
Mudnuke 38 Earth/Rad Controller
Doctor Kev 38 Necro/Dark Mastermind
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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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if u really want the rep badge so bad might i suggest just pvping for it?


It looks like the rep system is built pretty much so that's about the only way to actually get it which is a shame. The fact is that a Defender alone has almost no chance of surviving PvP let alone actually being able to kill someone (lack of damage). Especially in a system where it can take weeks of focused play just to get enough rep.

I may have to give up on this badge.




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Estimated next play month starts May 26th

My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.

Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Shazel 35 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 35 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 36 Warshade, Jordan Yang 33 Peacebringer
Mudnuke 38 Earth/Rad Controller
Doctor Kev 38 Necro/Dark Mastermind
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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

Get two or three like-minded players to assist you. Take turns killing each other, alternating so that no one gets killed twice in a row by the same person. This is the method most folks use, not dualboxing.



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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if u really want the rep badge so bad might i suggest just pvping for it?


It looks like the rep system is built pretty much so that's about the only way to actually get it which is a shame. The fact is that a Defender alone has almost no chance of surviving PvP let alone actually being able to kill someone (lack of damage). Especially in a system where it can take weeks of focused play just to get enough rep.

I may have to give up on this badge.


Team. With good teams, you can EASILY get 400 rep after several nights of active PvPing.

Now, even though I only play this game for PvP, and take pride in my rep badges, Ill give you an easier way to get the rep. On the 2nd account, level 8 (for maximum results, you can even level more. Less works, but is slower) toons to 15. This is the minimum level for Bloody Bay. Next:
1) Take the badge toon to Bloody Bay
2) Load in EVERY SINGLE 15+ toon on the 2nd account into a SECLUDED area of Bloody Bay (Awakens optional).

From now on, the Badger will be "B" and the alts will be "A1" thhrough "A8"

2) Log in B, and A1. Kill A1, and send him to the base hosp (a hospital-compatible base is very easy to make,even solo). When A1 rezes in the base with 1 hp, load in A2.
3) Repeat Step 2 over and over, until you have killed/sent to base/logged out A8. Then, restart the chain by logging in A1. He will zone in right where he was killed (in front of B, if you havnt moved) with 1 HP.
4) Kill him, repeat Steps 2-3 til you get the badge.

It requires actual participation to pull off, but then again, thats the point of badges :)




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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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The fact is that a Defender alone has almost no chance of surviving PvP let alone actually being able to kill someone (lack of damage).


*Buzzer* Wrong. Guess what build is considered the most powerful dueling build in the game? Rad/Psi. That's right, a defender.

Defenders get 30% of their debuffs as unresistable. Lets take into account your particular build, assuming you mean Jordan Yen. Your forte is tohit debuffs. Guess how many powers in the game resist tohit debuff? TWO! Both are only available to heroes, being Targeting Drone from /Devices for Blasters, and Focussed Accuracy, available only to Tanks and Scrappers, from Epic power pools, meaning they are only viable for Arena matchups and in Recluse's Victory.

You have a very powerful set up there, man. (almost called you honey, you play all females, its confusing me, lol.)

Not only do you have one of the most debilitating primary effects in the game, but villains literally have no protection from it! Now, lets add in some more advantages. You have a cone fear effect. Guess how many powersets villainside resist fear? Three. Dark Armor for Brutes and Stalkers, Willpower for Brutes and Stalkers, and Ninjitsu for Stalkers. Guess what man? Dark Armor is *not* a set that'll often be used for PvPing. It's lack of a reliable heal and PBAoE (easily avoidable) mitigation effects neuter it in PvP. Willpower ain't that good for PvP either. It's *ok* for stalkers, because it does have a built in self heal for them, but beyond that, it's protection is too limited for protection against a well built hero. So unless you plan on only facing /Nin stalkers, you will have no problems gettin players to stop moving. Then you can just toss tar patch down on them, and you get an automatic, unavoidable 60% resistance debuff, 20% of which is unresistable!

Lets go further. You have a hold built into your primary. This is a good thing. Set it up so you can stack it fast, and you can hold corruptors, masterminds, and the occasional Dominator (when they don't have dom up, they are squishier than a blaster). And this stuff is BUILT INTO YOUR PRIMARY! Why do you think Dark Miasma is considered the second best Mastermind secondary? Because it rocks! Only Poison can out debuff it!

Now, lets look at Twilight Grasp. 6.25% tohit debuff, that no villains can resist. 50% regen debuff, which very few villains can resist, and about 16% of that debuff is unresistable anyway! And a 12.5% damage debuff, 4% of which can't be resisted. Know how many powers in the game resist damage debuffs? None that I've ever heard of. Instantly your enemy (I should say victim) is doing less damage to you, while you heal back nearly half your HP in one swing. Every 8 seconds, no less. Thats a better self heal than Healing Flames! Of course, it has to hit, so you slot it well with accuracy. Get some IOs that give you an accuracy or tohit buff. You can buy a Kismet +6% accuracy unique for about 5 million influence, and slot it in Shadow Fall. Instantly you now have 56% base tohit, to go with your accuracy slotting. So, one power reduces your opponents damage, makes it harder for them to hit you, makes it harder for them to naturally heal back damage you do, and gives you almost half your HP back. You were saying about being weak?

Lets talk Darkest Night. At its base values, it gives an 18.8% tohit debuff. And its autohit. As a toggle that you can keep on them for the entire fight. It's also a 37.5% Damage debuff. Again, I know of nothing that can resist Damage debuffs, for heroes or villains. Harder for them to hit you, and when they do, they do one hell of alot less damage.

Lets talk about what could be your best power. Howling Twilight. This power scares me. First off, it's autohit. I'm 90% certain that it is, indeed, autohit in PvP, as you cannot slot it for accuracy, at all, ever. Lets talk about what it does. First off, its got a 500% regen debuff. 500% Thats amazing. And guess what? 160% of that can't be resisted, even by the few powersets that do have -regen resistance! It has a 62.5% recharge debuff. 62.5% movement debuff. Know how many powers villainside have slow resists? Quickness for /SR stalkers and Lightning Reflexes for /Elec Brutes. Everyone else is gettin roughed up by this. And for those two sets that do resist this slow effect? 20% of it can't be resisted, because you are a Defender. So there. Not only that, but it's got a mag 2 stun, just for kicks! That means most Masterminds and Corruptors are now stunned. Dominators, too, if they don't have domination active.

Now lets talk Black Hole. Yeah, for PvE its really situational. For PvP? It's a lifesaver. Know how many sets resist intangibility? NONE Zilch. Nada. You get into a fight and it isn't going your way? Boom, Black Hole em and run like hell. That's very hard to beat.

The one power in the whole set that is difficult to take advantage of is Tar Patch. That's because its location based, meaning you have to get them into it. Guess what? TP Foe works wonders, and really isn't all too resisted by villains or heroes. Sure, if they have the foresight that they are going to be teleported, they can pop an orange and hope it protects them. And sure, some skilled players can keep moving through a teleport and might be able to avoid being caught in the patch. Most of the less skilled players, like those who haven't read my guide, won't know to do this, and will just get stuck. /SR and /Elec can escape the slow. Everyone else? Pwnt. -Fly. -Jump. -95.3% runspeed. Once in it, you are stuck. Even SR and Elec will have a hard time getting out of it. The only saving grace for a victim would be to have teleport and the wisdom to use it immediately. Teleport isn't that popular a power among pvpers, as its hard to chase an opponent by teleporting after them. Most casual zone PvPers won't have it at all, because it isn't a FoTM power to have. So, TP them to your patch, then go to town on them. 60% resistance debuff, 20% of unresistable! Thats literally going to amount to you, on average, having about 45% more damage dealing ability!

So, lets tally up your Primary debuffs, once you get them in your grasp. At base values, 43.65% tohit debuff. Thats almost floored tohit. 60% resistance debuff. Thats literally 60% more damage that you'll do to them. -550% regen. They ain't healing anything back naturally. 40% damage debuff. That's literally 40% less damage done by attacks that manage to get through all your tohit debuffs. On top of that, you can use the most unresisted mezz in the game to keep them in place for you, namely Fear. And yes, the Fear cone will stop all of a Masterminds pets, too, leaving you free to whale on the MM alone. Or you can hold them outright, stacking Holds as best you can to possible break through a mezz protection shield, and leave them helpless. Plus, if you do start taking some damage (doubtful, but possible none the less) you can Heal back about half your HP every 8s, provided you hit, which with Tactics, the Kismet Unique, and slotting 3 accuracy SOs or IOs, you'll likely hit. And if that isn't enough, you can always just send them to another dimension and run away.

Wow, pretty amazing Defender you have there, isn't it. Now, lets talk (a little less, I've said alot already) about your secondary, Dark Blast. Guess what man? Negative Energy isn't very resisted in this game. Matter of fact, the only set that has capped negative resistance outside of a Tier 9 Power (easily avoided by pvping in Siren's and Bloody Bay) is Dark Armor, and I already spoke of how unpopular DA is for PvPing. Not a whole lot of villains are going to have much protection from your damage. You may not do huge numbers like a blaster or scrapper can, but your numbers will add up. And don't forget, each one of your attacks had -tohit component, stacking very well with all the -tohit from your Primary. Lets see. You have an immobilize built into your secondary, that with proper slotting can be stacked to overcome most forms of protection from immobilize. CJ is just about the only thing you won't overcome. Hmm, you also have a Stun, that can stack well with Howling Twilight to really mezz Corruptors, Masterminds (its aoe, their pets are stunned too) and the occasional Dominator that isn't in domination mode. Hmm, you also have a snipe, which will be pretty easy to pull off, simply because they are so debuffed they can't hit you to interupt it, and that'll rack up damage pretty quickly.

So, you may not have the *best* blast set for a defender, but it is more than workable. And your primary frightens mean, and I don't mean just the Fear cone you have. I'd hate to go toe to toe with a Dark/Dark defender. I'd have my ass handed to me, literally.

So, still think you can't do well in a PvP zone? I know you are on Triumph, and Triumph isn't known for its Skilled PvPers. Most zone players will be casuals who have some Power leveled FoTM build that they don't even know how to play well. IOs can make things a little more dangerous, but then, you can do some farming with all your AoE debuffs and Attacks and get some IOs for yourself, too. Now, if you want build advise, either post Jordan's current build here, or PM it to me, and I'll help ya out. Hell, if you want, I'll even work up a PvP ready Respec build you could use to really own the zones. Believe me, it can be done.

I've faced off against Dark Miasma users on Virtue, with my Spine/Regen (a pvp god), my Fire/Fire (not a bad build), my Fire/EM (another pvp god), and my Stone/SS tank. When I've won, its been because of poor skill on their part, or luck, or happening to have the right inspirations in the right amounts to counter all the damn debuffs. More often than not, I've just been killed outright. I'm literally afraid of Dark Miasma, and will go out of my way to avoid it, like the plague. I have an easier time countering Radiation Emission users than I do countering Dark Miasmists.

Trust me, you can do well in PvP.

W.P.

Edited to add this: I forgot that Dark Miasma's Shadow Fall gives Fear protection. You can use this to your advantage against the rare Stalker that takes the Presence pool for Intimidate. Know this, you can also recognize when a Corruptor or Mastermind is using Dark Miasma as well, and not waste your time with Fearsome Stare. However, I would still use it, because even though it won't fear the victim, it will still add a base tohit debuff a 18.8% to every affected victim. Love that power, its just so unfair.



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

Also, do not forget:
PvP Reputation is spread evenly between teammates that are close enough when the PC foe is defeated, and is awarded to the player/team that dealt the final blow.

PvP Reputation degrades at the rate of 2.0 reputation per day. so you have to earn it and fight to keep it. Each day (24 hour period) that passes, and you are not actively involved in PVP, you lose 2 points of reputation. You gotta fight to earn it, and you gotta keep fighting to keep it.



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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Trust me, you can do well in PvP.



Holy information overflow Batman!

That's some post Warron. You really have me re-thinking the whole PvP thing... I know that other defenders have more punchk, but I've NEVER done well in a PvP fight.

HOWEVER, I haven't PvPed in a long time and I've learned Jordan better as well as added some powers that I'd ignored previously (like fearsome stare). I also have been slowly building her IO goodness (which is pretty decent now).

I've always known I can make most people unable to hit me, but my reflexes make it hard to do so before I get nailed. Assuming I can work on that and pin them down, it's hard to believe that I could do enough damage to hurt them before they get out of it or someone else comes and ganks me from somewhere... But...

After what you've said, maybe I should give it another try.

I won't be able to get the badge right now since my account ends in two days, but I'll be reactivating in June for a month so maybe then.





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Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Shazel 35 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 35 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 36 Warshade, Jordan Yang 33 Peacebringer
Mudnuke 38 Earth/Rad Controller
Doctor Kev 38 Necro/Dark Mastermind
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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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*Buzzer* Wrong. Guess what build is considered the most powerful dueling build in the game? Rad/Psi. That's right, a defender.


Actually, with IOs, fire/em blasters and ice/rad trollers are now considered the top dueling builds.

Just sayin :o



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

WOW, Warron. Talk about a mega post. Almost makes me want to jump on my own DarkDark and see what I can do with him. Granted, he hasn't been lvled as high as the infamous Jordan Yen, but I may have to dust him off regardless and see where I can tweak his build. I honestly never really thought about the pvp potential of a dark defender.

There is one thing I am curious about though. In pvp, what travel power would you recommend for a dark given that most darks I've ever seen take flight for travel?




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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

For Knick: Same as for any PvP build, CJ/SJ/Acro. Also, pick up TP Foe. Stand on top of building with tar patch out, see villain go flying by, snag and kill. =D

Rad/Psi fully IO'd out will annihilate Fire/Em and prolly match up with Ice/Rad for good fun.

W.P.



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

WP, when you get the time, PM me a possible build. I'm considering getting into pvp a bit, and this seems like a prime way to do it. Thanks in advance.




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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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WP, when you get the time, PM me a possible build. I'm considering getting into pvp a bit, and this seems like a prime way to do it. Thanks in advance.


That's a no-go Knick. People always ask for builds, and builds don't help you learn the powers. If you want me to critique a build you make, post it up or PM it to me, and I'll give advice. But I'm done making builds for people off the bat, simply because it's not really all that helpful. It just gives a recipe, without giving you a taste of the cake.

And the cake is a lie. (Just had to!)

W.P.



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

You are forgetting one huge problem in getting this badge. Triumph PvP, which is where Jordan would be going for it, is either empty or filled with some of the best in the game. Its no coincidence that a lot of the SGs that actively participate on Test server PvP are on Triumph. The other extreme is that because Triumph is such a small server, you can go long times without finding a single other person in the zone to kill. This isn't Freedom where you can find a fight any time. So yes, a self rez power would work just fine for farming it, and its no more of a bot then a heal farm. And about the Oro TF being an exploit, its not. You can use a real TF if you wanted, but then you have to get enough people to start it up.



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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

Im on triumph and if need be i can help with the badges, time restrictions do apply though, also i'ld like to point out that triumph isnt always filled with the best or the none, but alot of the people who dont do pvp or are bad at it or destructively good are on global hide

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Epsilon Assassin, lvl 50 spines/regen
Winters-Fury, lvl 50 Ice/Kinetics
EpsiIon Assassin, lvl 29 EM/Ninjutsu

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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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You are forgetting one huge problem in getting this badge. Triumph PvP, which is where Jordan would be going for it, is either empty or filled with some of the best in the game. Its no coincidence that a lot of the SGs that actively participate on Test server PvP are on Triumph. The other extreme is that because Triumph is such a small server, you can go long times without finding a single other person in the zone to kill. This isn't Freedom where you can find a fight any time. So yes, a self rez power would work just fine for farming it, and its no more of a bot then a heal farm. And about the Oro TF being an exploit, its not. You can use a real TF if you wanted, but then you have to get enough people to start it up.


10 points cred for bringing some reality and perspective to the conversation and also making me feel less like a cheating hack.

By the way, you're very right about the "empty" or "best" scenario. Maybe that's why I've had such poor luck when I DID try it and why I can go through an entire PvP zone and find no one (like yesterday... So much for trying it out :P)

At the least, that helps a lot with badge hunting (which I pretty much only do with Jordan and one main villain). It's so much easier to get Shivans, nukes and badges when there's no one there getting in the way :D




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My lousy name for the comic that I did which can be found here CoH @ JeremyDuffy.com

Estimated next play month starts May 26th

My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.

Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Shazel 35 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 35 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 36 Warshade, Jordan Yang 33 Peacebringer
Mudnuke 38 Earth/Rad Controller
Doctor Kev 38 Necro/Dark Mastermind
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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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Im on triumph and if need be i can help with the badges, time restrictions do apply though, also i'ld like to point out that triumph isnt always filled with the best or the none, but alot of the people who dont do pvp or are bad at it or destructively good are on global hide

-Cya'all Topside Eps


:) I'll keep ampers in mind when I try for this badge. I have two accounts though so I can do a lot by myself when the time comes. I'll probably use a combination of actual PvP, kill my own characters when no one else is around, and use a self-rez trick overnight to pull up a few more points. All together, it's probably going to be more effective, faster, and more fair while still getting me that badge.

By the way, your kill to death ratio should be 2.96:1 not 1:2.96 :)





Jordan's Town
My lousy name for the comic that I did which can be found here CoH @ JeremyDuffy.com

Estimated next play month starts May 26th

My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.

Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Shazel 35 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 35 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 36 Warshade, Jordan Yang 33 Peacebringer
Mudnuke 38 Earth/Rad Controller
Doctor Kev 38 Necro/Dark Mastermind
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RE: Making a character just for a self rez 

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Rad/Psi fully IO'd out will annihilate Fire/Em and prolly match up with Ice/Rad for good fun.

W.P.


Actually, a Fire/Em can (and will, regularly) shred Rad/Psi Defs in the arena. There is simply nothing above Fire/Ems when it comes to winning an arena match (in general). And a good Ice/Rad will only allow a Rad/Psi to get close enough to fire MAYBE 2 blasts before it is slowed to hell.





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