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ZenSelai
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ok i guess i just wanted some opinions on guilds and since im pissed off atm please forgive my swearing etc.
i joined a guild a few weeks back, they were nice to me, said i should join etc. did some dungeon runs, that was ok. then all of a sudden, they go quiet to me. i brought 5 of my friends there to so they gained more members including my fiance and after a while there was fuck all interaction from them as a guild towards the average member except their 'circle of friends'. they use voip proggys so the guild channel is barely used, and the actual alliance its in is like being in a teenagers party room (im 30 with kids).
so i leave, join another guild who was after some australian flavour (yes im aussie:p) and it happens again. im not rude, im always polite, willing to participate in events etc. im starting to realise there are a lot of guilds out there who dont give a crap about anyone except getting numbers through the door.
how do you find the right guild for you?
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| 03/04/08 09:29 |
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Deathaxe
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Look on forums.
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| 03/04/08 09:35 |
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maddog199
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Trial&Error.
You don't like the Guild anymore (like this case) or perhaps you don't have enough time anymore to play (for now) just leave and find another one.
Impossible? Hardly
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| 03/04/08 09:38 |
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My first requirement for joining a guild is that they don't use teamspeak or ventrillo or anything like that. Those programs are evil! Whenever people start using it the comradery that used to be in the guild gets replaced by small cliques. Unfortunately too many guilds seem to think it is needed.
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| 03/04/08 09:39 |
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ZenSelai
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and then i get bombarded with questions as to why i did leave. i went back to the original guild i first mentioned thinking they'd be active and talking lots but nup, all on that voip mumble shit so im back to square one.
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| 03/04/08 09:39 |
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I think it will be hit or miss for a bit. Best thing is before you join willy nilly, play with one or two of the members to see if your personalities get along. If so, then join and see what happens from there. If this is what you did with the last 2 guilds...all I can say is keep trying. At least it is free for you to join and if they do the freeze out, leaving is free too.
Or...you could just make your own guild. If you brought 5 people over to that one, you at least know you will have 5 members off the bat. lol
Whatever you decide, good luck. I was lucky and joined a great guild almost 3 years ago now. Though most of the people in it are part, part, part time players lol (away from the game weeks at a time) the core every dayers are what keep me coming back to GW even when I am feeling a bit wore out over the game. I hope you find an awesome guild like that. :)
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| 03/04/08 09:41 |
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ZenSelai
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whats the timezone of your guild and name?
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| 03/04/08 09:43 |
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Serenity
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If you are asking me....we are all over lol I have no clue as to what our time zones are in GM time, but I can tell you we have 4 New Zealanders on our guild..one an officer. Had an Aussie too, but he hasn't been on in a year...since he found his girl. lol Keep hoping he will pop on to say hi, miss him. Anyway back on topic...guild name is The Wolf Brotherhood...TWBh.
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| 03/04/08 09:57 |
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ZenSelai
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oh wow thats great:) 4 new zealanders is better than no australians lol i spose. are u in gw atm?
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| 03/04/08 09:58 |
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| QUOTE | | My first requirement for joining a guild is that they don't use teamspeak or ventrillo or anything like that. Those programs are evil! Whenever people start using it the comradery that used to be in the guild gets replaced by small cliques. Unfortunately too many guilds seem to think it is needed. |
lol....it is 100% needed with any sort of pvp guild and extremely helpfull with higher end pve
my guild has been using vent for months and there havent been "cliques" forming so to automatically say any guild using vent/ts is going to behave like a 13 yr old girl in high school is a little outlandish
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| 03/04/08 10:03 |
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ZenSelai
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all i know is that ive noticed that when they use a voip the in game chatting drops almost to zilch in the actual guild channel.
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| 03/04/08 10:04 |
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Serenity
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Just wanted you to know that I moved out discussion to PM. lol
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| 03/04/08 10:21 |
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hikimi
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number one try these fprums. thats how i found hugs.
or just wander aropund cities and waity for a guild to come along. how i found my first and favroute guild. WoD. i loved them. but they alll left *cry*
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| 03/04/08 10:21 |
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Finding a ''good'' & proper guild is hard, if the person who is recruiting doesnt ask if you have any questions about the guild, then just ask your own, barrage him if needed, and if it seems good join.
If you notice he was lying, Leave, their problem, not yours.
Good guilds are few and far between, and theres alot of them out there, a combination of numbers + friends is one of the best, you got friends and people you know on this side, and always the odd person on the other side that can accompany you for example in places.
Friends-only guilds often tend to be small, very small and the craving to expand is stopped simply because when they get someone new, that person often will feel like an outcast cause the rest already knows eachother.
Numbers only guilds brim with activity, but its nothing more then a hive of anonymous people, good for having bodies for missions, but trusting or relying upon such people can be disastrous.
Each guild is different though, but if you must, ask a recruiter how the guild is laid out according to ''social'' ranks.
Cause we have a 10 Man core group of people we know, around 15-20 people who are playing in the guild for a month or so but haven't yet opened up so to say, and another 10-15 of ''fresh'' people who are recruited in the past week or so.
It works quite well, you got trustworthy friends, capable members you know only as a character name, and a few newlings here & there that might be able to just provide some help, e.g spare materials, need extra cannon fodd- i mean, person to help with this mission, and the like.
Still, finding *that* guild, can take up to 4-5 days before you got an idea of what the guild you joined is like, many think you can sketch an idea within the hour, often they find themselves hopping week to week until they just get tired and settle with perhaps, the worst guild ever simply because they are led to believe every guild is bad.
I'd say just browse the Top-Guilds list here aswell, see what might sound nice, and if you notice something, GIVE a suggestion first, if they dont accept it ''cause hes the leaderguy'', leave, guilds that do not adapt to their members wishes often fall.
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| 03/04/08 10:23 |
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there is a guild for more mature members infact there are allot.
House of Moon [MOON]
This is the one I have picked for you return once more if it doesn't suit. bit of a coincidence you looking for a guild that is almost a jigsaw fit of gotm.
edit : Voices in the Wind [VW] but to a lesser extent
Actually I found that guild... I'm sure I met one of their members in Nightfall I think kodonur crossroads anyway nice enough.
The Older Gamers [TOG]
hope this helps
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| 03/04/08 10:33 |
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ZenSelai
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ah thanks man i'll check them out.
the problem with some guild is they get so damn upset when u leave. i had one complain cos it cost them money. im like, if you can afford a guild hall with the trimmings and farm your ass off daily whats a pissy little amount of gold doing? i appreciate the amount of invites ppl can send but still, its a fucking game. its not 'real' money.
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| 03/04/08 10:43 |
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| QUOTE | ah thanks man i'll check them out.
the problem with some guild is they get so damn upset when u leave. i had one complain cos it cost them money. im like, if you can afford a guild hall with the trimmings and farm your ass off daily whats a pissy little amount of gold doing? i appreciate the amount of invites ppl can send but still, its a fucking game. its not 'real' money. |
Easy Easy on the words there, remember what you said about yourself ;)
I agree though, officers in my guild are refund for ''successful'' invites, if the member stays around for a week (usually they stay for a longer period anyways), then they get a refund, if they invite every guildless person and they leave the next day, no refunds, keeps people from just standing in PRE sending an invite to all the guildless players appearing there -_-
Still, 100 gold is nothing, not even 1K, a monthly cape change isn't even expensive, so he has no reason to complain, his failure in guild leadership is his alone, and the burden must be carried.
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| 03/04/08 10:49 |
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ZenSelai
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sorry:) just its all fresh and up until i started looking into joining a guild i thoroughly enjoyed guild wars. as soon as ppl get involved, i lost that love because i got sucked into that 'having to be involved' thing. which is fair enough as long as they're involving all members and not just their mates. otherwise, they shouldnt hire strangers.
its actually a 'she' alliance leader who got upset over the cost. i paid it back, offered to which is fine. just, was weird to see someone get upset over that.
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| 03/04/08 10:53 |
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Ive had your problem alot, but through all the guilds ive been in ive made alot of friends, which later we made a guild and theres been no problems. And about Vent/TS Most of the guilds ive been in always use both Guild and Voice Chat. The only guilds i cant stand are ones that look at officers like gods, they can get away with anything. But when members do that same thing they get kicked. (not gonna name any names :P )
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| 03/04/08 12:10 |
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| QUOTE | My first requirement for joining a guild is that they don't use teamspeak or ventrillo or anything like that. Those programs are evil! Whenever people start using it the comradery that used to be in the guild gets replaced by small cliques. Unfortunately too many guilds seem to think it is needed.
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I must say, from experience, I totally agree.
My previous guild, which I was with for a good 2 years used to be the ideal guild for me with all the GC nonsense and all, but after I started to lose time to play, and was only online at weekends there was a clear divide in the guild, with those that used our vent server on one side, and the rest on the other side.
Although I do agree that vent is helpful for pvp it kills GC and leaves thsoe that dont use it left out.
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| 03/04/08 14:38 |
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Vent+mic is very vital to pvp guilds. I bet you that all the top guilds have it. Does that mean they are bad? I rarly chat in gw, instead its over vent.
Vent lets you tell sarcasm and the mood of people. Also, people can talk AND play. Instead of pressing space bar and then type something really quick.
Voice chat is very vital for any organized team. If you dont think so, then that your loss.
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| 03/04/08 15:03 |
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just form you own guild my and my mate did that after we encountered what you are going through we use are guild for just are friends and yeah we let other people in but its still mostly friends
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| 03/04/08 15:10 |
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| QUOTE | Vent+mic is very vital to pvp guilds. I bet you that all the top guilds have it. Does that mean they are bad? I rarly chat in gw, instead its over vent.
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I didnt say it wasnt, and i agree that the top pvp guild would use it, all I said was that it kills GC, and those that dont use vent within the guild are left out, thus causind a divide, and groups. This is reassured with the fact that you say you rarely chat in gw.
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| 03/04/08 17:07 |
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As has been said, finding a good guild is trial and error. I found a good guild, and have been with them for 2 years now, so it really all depends on the luck you have with finding a nice group of people.
What I find really helps is when the guild lays down some guidelines, chat rules, etc.
I like to have people join our guild and know that we do have restrictions on the chat, and enforce that.
So, when you first join a guild, see if the officers look to be reasonable people, and hopefully show some respect towards you and everyone else.
-Magical Samurai
EDIT: Oh yeah, a chat rule - enforced. "If you can't agree to that, Warned, then booted when a problem arises."
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| 03/04/08 19:43 |
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I usually find that making lots of friends in GW from PuGs (or sites) is usually better than most guilds. That way you can be involved in a few different guilds you can play with by contacts. If you find a good guild that call on you a lot you should probably join them as they'll know and talk to you.
Joining a random guild, they're usually more about getting loads of members than trying to play with people together. Unless people ask for help in the guild, in which case try your best to say you'll help, that way you'll get involved and they'll keep on asking you, and you'll get to know everyone.
I can't really read everything 'cause im lazy, but if any of this hasn't been said then yeah :]
And im not saying you don't ever offer help (I don't even know you :D) but thought I may aswell say it while im here :D
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| 03/05/08 10:34 |
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