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So I've noticed a bit of love towards pve mesmers and comments such as them being the greatest/most powerful class.
However I don't think I've ever seen a very effective mesmer build for pve that another class couldn't accomplish better. The builds I've seen are either overly specific and will generally only help with 1 creature in a mob that normally wont be worth devoting 1/8 characters to or will just have a bunch of single target degen which really isn't very useful in pve. I'm hoping for some experienced pve mesmer (or someone with knowledge of them) to give a specific example of a good mesmer build for PvE. By good in pve I don't mean can get to the end of a campaign it has to be functioning in hardmode in some of the more difficult area(s).
*note* this isn't a shot at flaming mesmers I just want some good examples of how one could be effective (assuming they can be). Please don't just give comments like mesmers are the greatest class with out some evidence.
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Support is nice from mesmers via spells like Ancestors and Splinter, along with HEV and enchant strips. But there's really only room for one in any build, and in PvE it's easy to swap one out for another class. Jarm will defend to death that mesmers are the most amazing class in PvE and PvP, but he's wrong. And so is anyone else who tries to tell you that. Their DPS isn't all that great, and in PvE, DPS and passive defense is really all you need. Mesmers can provide support for both of those at the same time via other professions skills. However as a standalone class, they're really nothing special.
Mesmers are nice for shutdown. But I've always found shutdown to be useless in PvE, because by the time it's taken for a diversion to be cast, whatever it was being cast on is already dead.
The people who defend mesmers like that, do it with pure energy and zealotry, not logic or evidence. Someone please prove me wrong.
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I don't feel mesmers are the greatest or most powerful class in general. However if you boil down to basics of one profession versus another in a 1 on 1 match where either profession could use whatever skills they want. Then I would say memsers are the best class.
Every battle I've faught with other guildies or allies in a 1 on 1. I've always won...however...except for battles against other mesmers. Then it really turns into a battle of wits and clicking speed :D
Just my opinion...
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Mesmer PvE - Boring.
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| QUOTE | Support is nice from mesmers via spells like Ancestors and Splinter, along with HEV and enchant strips. But there's really only room for one in any build, and in PvE it's easy to swap one out for another class. Jarm will defend to death that mesmers are the most amazing class in PvE and PvP, but he's wrong. And so is anyone else who tries to tell you that. Their DPS isn't all that great, and in PvE, DPS and passive defense is really all you need. Mesmers can provide support for both of those at the same time via other professions skills. However as a standalone class, they're really nothing special.
Mesmers are nice for shutdown. But I've always found shutdown to be useless in PvE, because by the time it's taken for a diversion to be cast, whatever it was being cast on is already dead.
The people who defend mesmers like that, do it with pure energy and zealotry, not logic or evidence. Someone please prove me wrong. |
Thanks I've pretty much felt this way as well glad I wasn't completely missing something.
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The other day i vanquished from Camp Rankor to Beacons the other day with a few peeps. I took my mes and ran this build.
Energy Surge
Empathy
Backfire
Ether Nightmare
Cry Of Frustration
Leech Signet
Arcane Conundrum
Res
I dont play my mesmer much, so i havent unlocked a lot of skills, but doing that run, i had a lot of fun with that build, and it seemed to help out a lot.
Casting AC on a whole group of Griffons and interrupting spell breaker on all of them makes the run a lot less painful and quicker. Same goes for the dudes who are constantly using Giants Stomp. Using Cry of Frustration on a mob when they use that is also a massive help to your monks.
And there are quite a few mobs of doylaks with 1 or 2 monks in the pack. If there are 2 monks, cast backfire on one and AC on the other. I found that it really helped in HM, as any group with 2 monks is always a pain.
Same goes for bosses, when your facing a monk boss, it can be almost impossible to kill when they can keep spamming RoF as a lvl 30 char. But backfire just lets them kill themselves ignoring any armor, same goes for Empathy with any warrior boss.
And i know ether nightmare is a PVE only skill, but thats what you asked for, ether nightmare is a good skill for getting degen on a whole mob, and Energy Surge is another good skill for hitting mobs.
But seeing as i mainly play my ele, i enjoy using skills that hit a whole mob rather than just shutting down 1, in that skill bar, 4/7 attacking skills effect a mob as a whole.
Any way, thats just a build i used and found it really helpful towards the team, and also was a lot of fun to play, but as i said, i dont play my mesmer too often. And i'm not gonna lie, its because i dont find it as fun sometimes, and it can be hard to run a decent PVE build in all situations.
But thats just my 2 pence. They can be fun, but are in no way the greatest, as Rogue has already explained.
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| QUOTE | I don't feel mesmers are the greatest or most powerful class in general. However if you boil down to basics of one profession versus another in a 1 on 1 match where either profession could use whatever skills they want. Then I would say memsers are the best class.
Every battle I've faught with other guildies or allies in a 1 on 1. I've always won...however...except for battles against other mesmers. Then it really turns into a battle of wits and clicking speed :D
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I use to think mesmers were the best in 1vs1 until i was againts my friend who used ele.. echo + obsidian flesh. -.-
How can you win that with an mesmer?
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I use to think mesmers were the best in 1vs1 until i was againts my friend who used ele.. echo + obsidian flesh. -.-
How can you win that with an mesmer? |
isn't there a signet of disenchants?
anyway PvE mesmer are fun try using PvE skills for some total destruction hehe
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little bit offtopic but...
can you do 1v1 on guildwars
i dont mean scrimmage and neither hero battles
is there a way to do 1v1 which is rated?
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I use to think mesmers were the best in 1vs1 until i was againts my friend who used ele.. echo + obsidian flesh. -.-
How can you win that with an mesmer? |
isn't there a signet of disenchants?
anyway PvE mesmer are fun try using PvE skills for some total destruction hehe |
Signet of Illusions, Asura Summon skill, Arcane echo & Ebon vanguard assassin support really pwns
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well I guess I can bring my 2 cents
| QUOTE | | Jarm will defend to death that mesmers are the most amazing class in PvE and PvP |
amazing in pve yes, if you have a bit of knowledge on how to use
pvp no idea I could not care less about pvp never done any dont like it :)
now to defend pve mesmer
doing a few HM with kanna and some peeps in AMP I use some of my other toon (Jarmina is officially retired in tyria and cantha) it goes well enough except for seaboard, tried with ele, rit, warrior and no go dorian dies, I get a bit annoyed and take Jarmina there for revenge. the peeps with me can attest, we had to check we were in HM, this is but 1 exemple
normally I run a full illusion bar similar to that
ineptitude
conjure phantasm
image of remorse
leech sig
cry of pain
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rez of sort
and 1 slot for various other skill
to me it works and I really enjoy using my mesmer in pve nm or hm
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Fast casting and the ability to take on any spell as your own (yeah I'm looking at you sig of illusion).
suits some peoples playing style making for some clever combinations.
I have to stare at mes skills record them onto Dictaphone and play them back over and over while I sit in a high backed leather chair drinking wisky and mumbling, rosebud.
Depends what you want to do sometimes taking energy adrenalin and health from a foe makes them useless (team wont notice that it died 3 seconds sooner thus equating to 7 people attacking for three seconds) but it tends to be bosses that you notice it on.
yes imo mesmers in the right situation improve a team by an amount that cant really be measured in the traditional thump on the head = x damage model used.
And I'm not saying that model is wrong because its right they aren't the highest damage dealers.
What I'm trying to say is that a team made of different people playing as one playing the way they like to play in pve quite often works. The game is not ballanced on damage how stupid would the game look if it was. A whole range of different shaped warrior monks with the full set of skills (thump and heal). I'm slowly sinking into my role here :/
People look for the most efficient killing machine in GW they see the numbers and if you cant see it its not real.
I like to play a class to get to know it and people sometimes question the logic of the things I say.
If I didn't say it no one else would but its my belief that no one class is better than any other by my standards because I rate them on playability and I played em all!
Even if you grab a pvp character and take it to the isle of barrel targets your better than most. see what 12 fast casting feels like and consider how long you have been playing the same skills day in day out. Ok I'm not going to delete this one but its a typical example of the stuff I write then delete because its not worth the backfire.
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| QUOTE | Fast casting and the ability to take on any spell as your own (yeah I'm looking at you sig of illusion).
suits some peoples playing style making for some clever combinations.
I have to stare at mes skills record them onto Dictaphone and play them back over and over while I sit in a high backed leather chair drinking wisky and mumbling, rosebud.
Depends what you want to do sometimes taking energy adrenalin and health from a foe makes them useless (team wont notice that it died 3 seconds sooner thus equating to 7 people attacking for three seconds) but it tends to be bosses that you notice it on.
yes imo mesmers in the right situation improve a team by an amount that cant really be measured in the traditional thump on the head = x damage model used.
And I'm not saying that model is wrong because its right they aren't the highest damage dealers.
What I'm trying to say is that a team made of different people playing as one playing the way they like to play in pve quite often works. The game is not ballanced on damage how stupid would the game look if it was. A whole range of different shaped warrior monks with the full set of skills (thump and heal). I'm slowly sinking into my role here :/
People look for the most efficient killing machine in GW they see the numbers and if you cant see it its not real.
I like to play a class to get to know it and people sometimes question the logic of the things I say.
If I didn't say it no one else would but its my belief that no one class is better than any other by my standards because I rate them on playability and I played em all!
Even if you grab a pvp character and take it to the isle of barrel targets your better than most. see what 12 fast casting feels like and consider how long you have been playing the same skills day in day out. Ok I'm not going to delete this one but its a typical example of the stuff I write then delete because its not worth the backfire. |
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| QUOTE | | Mesmer PvE - Boring. |
What an...Insightful post? Dont post if you're going to be like that....
Anyways back on topic, I have seen some amazing mesmers in PvE. They can really help (if they know what theyre doing :P) I have a Mesmer in the making, hopefully i can get the hang of it, and be as good as everyone says Jarm is ^^
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only reason i chose mesmer was for fast casting. i wanted all those ele skills, just faster delivery.
for pve i always take ether nightmare and cry of pain, since they are pve only skill, it makes sense that they work well together.
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He copied your avatar, then defiled it, the horror!
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| 03/18/08 09:58 |
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hmm perhaps I should make my own avatar :/
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| QUOTE | | Mesmer PvE - Boring. |
he's probably just saying that because its a class thats beyond his intellectual ability
My gf chose mesmer when she first started the game and her build has evolved through the ages, now i think its something like this
Arcane Echo
E-Surge
Ether Nightmare
Cry of Pain
Cry of Frustration
Pain Inverter
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Res
if you use pve mes bring this or jarm's ineptitude build, while the slot is probably better off as an ele or necro inept/clumsiness/wandering eye does do decent dmg to warrior mobs and takes some pressure off your monks with those HM warrior bosses hitting for 100's of dmg per swing
For PvP mesmer's are a different story entierly...you will rarely see me on a team without a mesmer as in the right hands they are invaluable be it inept, e surge, or GoR
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| QUOTE | I don't feel mesmers are the greatest or most powerful class in general. However if you boil down to basics of one profession versus another in a 1 on 1 match where either profession could use whatever skills they want. Then I would say memsers are the best class.
Every battle I've faught with other guildies or allies in a 1 on 1. I've always won...however...except for battles against other mesmers. Then it really turns into a battle of wits and clicking speed :D
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1vs1......it proves nothing to be honest its just LOOK I CAN BRING BETTAR COUNTARZ0RS U NAab!!! and yes its only logical mesmers win 1vs1 cuze they can shutdown any1 GW is a teamgame not 1vs1 and though im convinced that mesmers are a great pvp class and have nice team builds i have no faith in PVE for mesmers but thats just me.
(some people gonna hate me for what im about to tell)
mesmers are like hammers to me there very usefull in PVP but they lack in PVE most skills arent designed for PVE.
possesed one- everything a necro can be.
E N E M Y of god- hammer/axe warrior
innocent cute girl-sword/hammer/farmer warrior
fast mercanery-random self made builds lol
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | I don't feel mesmers are the greatest or most powerful class in general. However if you boil down to basics of one profession versus another in a 1 on 1 match where either profession could use whatever skills they want. Then I would say memsers are the best class.
Every battle I've faught with other guildies or allies in a 1 on 1. I've always won...however...except for battles against other mesmers. Then it really turns into a battle of wits and clicking speed :D
Just my opinion... |
1vs1......it proves nothing to be honest its just LOOK I CAN BRING BETTAR COUNTARZ0RS U NAab!!! and yes its only logical mesmers win 1vs1 cuze they can shutdown any1 GW is a teamgame not 1vs1 and though im convinced that mesmers are a great pvp class and have nice team builds i have no faith in PVE for mesmers but thats just me.
(some people gonna hate me for what im about to tell)
mesmers are like hammers to me there very usefull in PVP but they lack in PVE most skills arent designed for PVE. |
Hah, thats funny. I use hammers, alot, in PvE and rock mobs with AoE Damage.
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1vs1......it proves nothing to be honest its just LOOK I CAN BRING BETTAR COUNTARZ0RS U NAab!!! and yes its only logical mesmers win 1vs1 cuze they can shutdown any1 GW is a teamgame not 1vs1 and though im convinced that mesmers are a great pvp class and have nice team builds i have no faith in PVE for mesmers but thats just me.
(some people gonna hate me for what im about to tell)
mesmers are like hammers to me there very usefull in PVP but they lack in PVE most skills arent designed for PVE. |
You clearly haven't ran with a Mesmer in PvE have you? Every class is useful for something whether it be PvP or PvE. Hammers are fine in PvE as well.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | Mesmer PvE - Boring. |
he's probably just saying that because its a class thats beyond his intellectual ability
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Made a mesmer and came to southern shiverpeaks. Really boring PvE play. Blame it on me or the boring skills i had, whatever.
Anyways they are super fun PvP.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | QUOTE | I don't feel mesmers are the greatest or most powerful class in general. However if you boil down to basics of one profession versus another in a 1 on 1 match where either profession could use whatever skills they want. Then I would say memsers are the best class.
Every battle I've faught with other guildies or allies in a 1 on 1. I've always won...however...except for battles against other mesmers. Then it really turns into a battle of wits and clicking speed :D
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1vs1......it proves nothing to be honest its just LOOK I CAN BRING BETTAR COUNTARZ0RS U NAab!!! and yes its only logical mesmers win 1vs1 cuze they can shutdown any1 GW is a teamgame not 1vs1 and though im convinced that mesmers are a great pvp class and have nice team builds i have no faith in PVE for mesmers but thats just me.
(some people gonna hate me for what im about to tell)
mesmers are like hammers to me there very usefull in PVP but they lack in PVE most skills arent designed for PVE. |
Hah, thats funny. I use hammers, alot, in PvE and rock mobs with AoE Damage. |
you mean the earthshaker crude swing combo???yes ofcourse it works very nicelt but still i prefer sword or axe in PVE and in PVP i say hammers are better i never said hammer sucks in PVE i have plenty of fun builds for them.
as for mesmers in PVE never said they where bad in PVE either i just find them funner to play in PVP.
possesed one- everything a necro can be.
E N E M Y of god- hammer/axe warrior
innocent cute girl-sword/hammer/farmer warrior
fast mercanery-random self made builds lol
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No, not the wiki Earthshaker.....Ive got my own..
"People are like slinkies; Basically useless, yet so amusing to watch fall down the stairs."
"No! He would kill you like a small dog. Let your anger be as a monkey in a piņata... hiding amongst the candy... hoping the kids don't break through with the stick!" - Master Tang
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Mesmers can be extremely efficient in either PvP or PvE.
IF THEY ARE USED RIGHT.
A Mesmer can completely shut down enemy monks thus leaving the whole mob helpless. Then they can Ineptitude the melee mobs, followed by Epidemic.
The whole picture is:
Enemy mob: blind, cannot hit and cannot heal = dead.
Your team: collecting loot.
Rinse and repeat.
Not to mention the words "Interrupt FTW"
What can any character do against a Mesmer if he cannot activate a single skill? Correct, nothing.
Adrenaline denial, Energy denial, Skill shutdown or interrupt, the possibilities are really amazing, if you know what are you doing.
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| QUOTE | Mesmers can be extremely efficient in either PvP or PvE.
IF THEY ARE USED RIGHT.
A Mesmer can completely shut down enemy monks thus leaving the whole mob helpless. Then they can Ineptitude the melee mobs, followed by Epidemic.
The whole picture is:
Enemy mob: blind, cannot hit and cannot heal = dead.
Your team: collecting loot.
Rinse and repeat.
Not to mention the words "Interrupt FTW"
What can any character do against a Mesmer if he cannot activate a single skill? Correct, nothing.
Adrenaline denial, Energy denial, Skill shutdown or interrupt, the possibilities are really amazing, if you know what are you doing. |
I still don't get how you can kill elementalist in 1vs1.. obsidian flesh with echo and then he/she nukes u down..
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | Mesmers can be extremely efficient in either PvP or PvE.
IF THEY ARE USED RIGHT.
A Mesmer can completely shut down enemy monks thus leaving the whole mob helpless. Then they can Ineptitude the melee mobs, followed by Epidemic.
The whole picture is:
Enemy mob: blind, cannot hit and cannot heal = dead.
Your team: collecting loot.
Rinse and repeat.
Not to mention the words "Interrupt FTW"
What can any character do against a Mesmer if he cannot activate a single skill? Correct, nothing.
Adrenaline denial, Energy denial, Skill shutdown or interrupt, the possibilities are really amazing, if you know what are you doing. |
I still don't get how you can kill elementalist in 1vs1.. obsidian flesh with echo and then he/she nukes u down.. |
^.^ Can kite like a 'Lil Noob until they get bored and leave xD of course then you cant say you killed em, but you can go around saying that they gave up :P
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"No! He would kill you like a small dog. Let your anger be as a monkey in a piņata... hiding amongst the candy... hoping the kids don't break through with the stick!" - Master Tang
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| QUOTE | | I still don't get how you can kill elementalist in 1vs1.. obsidian flesh with echo and then he/she nukes u down.. |
Well, first of all, you can't use Obsidian Flesh along with Echo, as both are elites. Unless you mean Arcane Echo.
Then I have two options. I can use Signet of Humility to disable his elite, or I can interrupt either Obsidian Flesh, or Arcane Echo, or both. With that done, I can put a load of degeneration on him, or shatter his Aura, so he cannot heal when casting. Deny him energy, or Energy Burn him down.
So let's see. One Elite Skill shutdown signet. Two interrupts. One massive degen. One energy denial. One enchantment shatter. One energy burn. That's seven skills on my bar, leaving one space optional. I can bring something like Backfire or a skill that makes them cast 100% longer, to make my job with interrupting easier. Or a self heal skill.
I'm not saying that it's a piece of cake to take an Ele down. It's actually hard as hell. But with enough practice I can learn to interrupt even half second casts.
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| 03/19/08 01:03 |
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| RE: PvE mesmers, whats so great? |
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normally I run a full illusion bar similar to that
ineptitude
conjure phantasm
image of remorse
leech sig
cry of pain
e-tap
rez of sort
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The problem with this is its elite and most of the bar except for the 2 interrupts rez and e tap is devoted purely to damage. The dps of this bar is significantly lower than that of a ranger or ele. When it comes to utility you have 2 interrupts a blind and e tap. E tap provides nothing to the team really except for letting you use low dps skills more. The blind is on 1 target and not really of any significant use. The 2 interrupts can be useful but its not really anything a ranger couldn't do except interrupt aggro range 3/4s on reflex which in 99% of areas doesn't matter very much.
Mesmers seem perfectly capable of most areas but when it comes to efficiency it seems that almost all the time swapping them out for the spot a ranger ele or necro would normally take up just isn't worth it unless theres an excess of annoying hexes for HeV and shatter hex.
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| 03/19/08 01:05 |
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*sigh* another post where it really boils down to an indivdual's skill level and not the profession itself.
c'mon, it's PvE, there isn't a single profession that would hinder a PvE group so long as the player knows what they're doing and has a diverse selection of builds for various situations and area difficulities.
whereas a crappy play of any profession hinders any group...
that's simple logic. a good mesmer in a group is better than having a crappy *insert anyother profession here* in a group.
now, that's cleared up, we can get into good vs. good, in that case, there are definate advantages / disadvantages among the professions and buids chosen.
i use my own little spin off i guess what's know on this forum as "jarm's ineptitude" build (something Kanya, my first mesmer, was my first elite skill i used with a mesmer nearly 3 years ago, first elite i captured back in may 2005 on my mesmer, that and E-surge, thought those were the two greatest ever)... anyway... the bar i use is decent for all areas and does very wonderful specified damage and a tiny bit of AoE in PvE. =)
my Rt and necro deal out way more DPS (i don't really use anything else these days in PvE for offensive professions) my paragon offers a balance of dmg and defense and then there's my monk, who wouldn't hurt a fly ;)
PvE boil down on mesmer (btw, i LOVE playing my little school girl mesmer when i have time and love their devious little ways and just the general fun of playing a mesmer, i think they're great and in my top 5) ...
really they aren't levels or fathoms above any other profession out there. that was direct and to the point. thank goodness there is sort of a balance out there between prof's and their usefullness in PvE =)
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| 03/19/08 01:31 |
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