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Ultimate gaming pc 

well if some of you remember i was asking what i should do to build a pc i want and i forgot about this video i saw and i was wondering what do you guys think about this PC? it is around $3,000 but like she said it is the ultimate gaming pc and im saving for it.


http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/6810..._Gaming_PC.html



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RE: Ultimate gaming pc 

Sounds like a sweet rig.

I may do some upgrades to my PC but no where near that power.

My list for upgrading is pretty simple:
1. New case and Power supply (reused old one, kinda cramped inside)

2. More RAM

3. Another copy of my graphics card for SLI or just a new better card.



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Ya it looks amazing i totaled it up without the screen to $3,125.


:) I guess i should find a job soon...

Also did you see it... it needed 3 fans for no overheating!



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RE: Ultimate gaming pc 

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it is around $3,000 but like she said it is the ultimate gaming pc and im saving for it.


Say's who, a girl with a skimpy outfit who reads the text from the monitor on the camera?
Just $3000 for the "Ultimate Gaming" PC? Has the Dollar gone that low since i last checked the Stock Market, hell, i can give you an even better system, but it really depends on several things, especially the game's your playing, the version of DirectX, because 10 might be the latest, its also known as one of the most non-optimized render engines available, hence such slow performance.

10.1 is alot more improved in regards to that, but currently all PC games are made with DX 9 really, only a few windows Vista exclusive marketing things, which aren't to be rated as games in the first place.
Those games are just for the sheep that think "W0W R0XXORX, N33D 2 Buy it N0\/\/"


Furthermore, depends what resolution you play on, you ought to be a bastard and get the biggest incher of Plasma TV you can find out there and hook it up your amazing quad SLi system giving you 8 graphic cores (if using the new 9800GX2's from Nvidia)
Such high resolutions do need it, but if your gaming on your 19" LCD Monitor, you dont need to look further then the 8800GT/GTS 512 really.


The Ultimate Gaming PC costs far more, because Ultimate would mean its completely future proof, you'd need atleast 4x HDD's with two running in Raid striping-data, for the fastest load times available, if your that much of a gaming whore and you have the patience of a rodent you'd need Soli State Flash drives, as they are "so" much more faster and reliable, the max i heard was around 250GB now, going for just $1200, you need 4 of those because 1x 250GB isn't that much (plus they are in raid so they both load different things = faster)

Let alone the massive power supply, and you'd need one hell of a case, plus watercooling, i mean what Zealous Gamer who wants the best performance still does classic aircooling (not dissing fans here), you'll melt that PC before you got it booting with all the stuff in it.



All in all, i like the video, but please, don't save up for Capitalism, just like Alienware, you pay 40% extra because it has the Alienware brand on it, nothing more really, same for Trendy Clothes like Adidas, all pants are made in the same factories in Asia, and each costs $3-4, what makes them expensive isn't the fancy gimmick fake shreds on them, or the patterns, nor the actual shipping, its the Company Brand, the logo & the "status" it has, that's where you pay +70 for, because they come from the same factory, just one can be bought at the supermarket, and the other at some fancy dedicated clothing shop.

A bit too much info i suppose, but it comes down to the same, You pay almost double just because its fancy brand, because i've truly seen cooler looking cases and better specs for the same price.








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RE: Ultimate gaming pc 

I would love to have a computer like that. Right now..I have a poopy computer with the most poopy set up..It has a Motherboard with agp slots for video card..Theres really no point in upgrading mine for high end gaming since I would have too change the Ram, Videocard,Motherboard altogether.

Are you pretty close to getting it? :)


NOTE:*The ammount of Fans needed for the computer is ridiculous!*



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I would love to have a computer like that. Right now..I have a poopy computer with the most poopy set up..It has a Motherboard with agp slots for video card..Theres really no point in upgrading mine for high end gaming since I would have too change the Ram, Videocard,Motherboard altogether.

Are you pretty close to getting it? :)


NOTE:*The ammount of Fans needed for the computer is ridiculous!*


If you ever need, i can go component hunting for you, just make a topic, give a budget, and any preferred sites to order from and you got a list within a few days, see previous people i've helped:

http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/68302.php

http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/68625.php


Plus quite a few PM's regarding "this is my budget, what can you get with it" Questions, im sure the following persons can acknowledge that i've helped them:

Akela Xeroxz
IrishGrimReaper
dunkoro_flagger
Prokzimity
jaffar_al_kahyet
Cross
eiirish
anan saman

Im not yet entirely aware who and who hasn't yet got his new setup, i do know Jaffar should be getting his system very soon and he's going to built it himself, for those of the people in the list that have more or less bought components or the entire budget list, do give me a PM or tell me how it worked out, im pretty curious meself wether or not i made some people happy :P

Also, its all self-built, it saves alot on the price,Alot. And its too drat easy, just one question:

Can you handle a screwdriver?

If the answer is Yes, you are qualified to build your own computer, as the "where to put cables" is all in the manual, well, im sure you've been at school so your used to following things from the book.



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RE: Ultimate gaming pc 

Lol, I have to say I was hoping you Forumite would see this because you do help a lot of people with there computer building.


Anyway if it would be acceptable, I was wondering if I could tell you what I wanted in the PC I want.


If so the budget I would like to stay under would be $3,500 USD or so. And I would mainly want it for gaming, because I have 4-5 computer games I would like on there at a time, but my little desktop can't hold that much and still be running without lag every 3 seconds. (and if 4-5 games is to much I could cut it down and still be happy) I would be happy with any parts, just to be PC workable. also I would not like a notebook desktop thing like I have now. If you would be so kind would you help me build the PC I want.



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If so the budget I would like to stay under would be $3,500 USD or so. And I would mainly want it for gaming, because I have 4-5 computer games I would like on there at a time, but my little desktop can't hold that much and still be running without lag every 3 seconds. (and if 4-5 games is to much I could cut it down and still be happy) I would be happy with any parts, just to be PC workable. also I would not like a notebook desktop thing like I have now. If you would be so kind would you help me build the PC I want.


You Truly Truly with no offense from my side open a budget of 3.500 Dollars for a PC component list?




Ok, sorry for the empty lines my mind just had to explode, implode, explode again causing a time-continuum break so all time stopped then imploded again to normal size, you didn't notice cause ofcourse it stopped time.

Alrighty, i feel required as usual to give an advice first-off:

PC Gaming with no offense currently isn't in the highest peaks, im not saying PC Gaming wont ever have the edge anymore, its just that the current list of new-gen consoles basically are more popular, i'l give some reasons and urban myths that prove very cool in statistics, but are awefully flawed in reality:[i]


Consoles are popular because of this, $ simple, they are sold at dumping prices because the companies that build them earn the actual money back not on the console, but on the games sold because of the game developers.
Computers on the other hand cost alot more, because the part manufacturers don't earn scrap really whether or not your buying a game, so they are forced to sell them for higher prices.(The urban myth is that computers are inferior to Console Graphics, no, they are not, the latest Nvidia cards easily outdo the PlayStation 3, except as you can read above, the difference is the price.)

Consoles have existed throughout the ages, however, Consoles are for Games only, thus they have usually a wider range of games, though that depends on the console aswell, Computer Games going past history outdo most Consoles on game sales.Consoles = Gaming, Computer = Not Just Gaming. You ever made a school project on a Console?


No offense, but i do say that the coming years you are actually better off keeping $1000 in your pocket so it can be spend on upgrades, cause the gaming PC can last for the coming year or two, but we are looking at things that will happen next year:

-Introduction to either DDR3 proper working memory or a jump to the even faster (and less flawed) DDR4 memory, DDR3 currently is compared to DDR/DDR2 ratio inferior and weak, hence they've actually been trying to boost DDR2 memory speeds to over 1200Mhz.

- DirectX 10.1, the latest 3D Enviroment Rendering, more optimized and cooler, one of the games in production that will more or less probably will atleast have an optional for DirectX 10.1 is Far Cry 2, (like Crysis), this one will once again kill any gaming machine existing. They've unleashed monsters on Crysis to beat it and even they still broke a sweat, Far Cry 2 is released ''Technologically'' even earlier then Crysis, imagine the power needed.

- What games do you play, you have no reason to pump your pixels through Quad Graphics cards when it's *just* Guild Wars. Unless you game on ridiculous resolutions and extreme Anti-Aliasing, its more of a waste of cash then smart buying.
Keep in mind yourself, no offense, we Humans love bragging to eachother, but sometimes you got to consider what to spend things on, you are easier off bragging about the body kit for your new car which you spent your cash on then that PC that only a select few see. Just my Opinion.

- Electricity Bill, i can give you something which requires its own Nuclear Reactor, but i'm unsure your going to like the extra numbers on your bill's every month.



Anyways, i can continue, just give it a thought, or let's play it even, you give me an optional budget like *just* $2000, and im sure i can dig up something which'll keep you content already, cause im all for giving you overkill, but for just 6 games, i don't know, its your call in the end really.

Any preferred websites or should i unleash havoc on TigerDirect and such again?














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RE: Ultimate gaming pc 

Ya, I see now $3,500 is to much since computers upgrade each year. I see what you mean and move my budget down I wanna try $1,000 USD (I know i went down a lot, but as I think about it $3,000 is to much for me to make) Though I still would like if you can help me make a computer not for gaming only, but good for the internet, fast loads and everything. I really couldn't care what the site is or parts you advise, unless they are crappy. If you can, the best I cant get for my budget I feel like I am asking to much for you and if you don't want to search for what I would like I understand fully. I just hope if you do, do this I'm not wasting your time.



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Ok, im free from school tommorow, im sure i can squeeze in an hour or so to look around for parts, please do list things you already have that i don't need to get, e.g monitor, keyboard, mouse you know the lot.




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If you ever need, i can go component hunting for you, just make a topic, give a budget, and any preferred sites to order from and you got a list within a few days, see previous people i've helped:

http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/68302.php

http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/68625.php


Plus quite a few PM's regarding "this is my budget, what can you get with it" Questions, im sure the following persons can acknowledge that i've helped them:

Akela Xeroxz
IrishGrimReaper
dunkoro_flagger
Prokzimity
jaffar_al_kahyet
Cross
eiirish
anan saman
Liquide

Im not yet entirely aware who and who hasn't yet got his new setup, i do know Jaffar should be getting his system very soon and he's going to built it himself, for those of the people in the list that have more or less bought components or the entire budget list, do give me a PM or tell me how it worked out, im pretty curious meself wether or not i made some people happy :P

Also, its all self-built, it saves alot on the price,Alot. And its too drat easy, just one question:

Can you handle a screwdriver?

If the answer is Yes, you are qualified to build your own computer, as the "where to put cables" is all in the manual, well, im sure you've been at school so your used to following things from the book.


yeah, you really helped me alot man!
I havent got my system yet, because the case was late first time, and when it díd arrive(at the company where I ordered it) it was broken.
I might get the parts in a few days.
I was already planning to give you a reward when it's fully working(like half a zaishen key or something)
I'm sure to tell you when the parts are arrived and when it's ready to rock.




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Yep Forumite has helped me. I haven't built the system yet but I was more into seeing if my line of thought on what I was wanting to do was reasonable. It had been awhile since I looked at computer parts so just wanted to see if I had gotten back up to date on things and their work value vs. their cost. Trust him he can get you set up with a good computer. Thanks again Forumite.



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Any preferred websites or should i unleash havoc on TigerDirect and such again?


TigerDirect is made of WIN!!!

As a bit of food for thought before Forumite makes your list; Do you have a preference as to Processor brand? AMD or Intel?

Personally I like AMD.




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RE: Ultimate gaming pc 

Hardly the "ultimate" gaming machine. To truly have the ultimate gaming machine, you also have to say "money is no object."

Check you the Falcon Northwest Mach V \"Bragging Rights\" build.

For the low low cost of $15,876.16, you can truly have the ultimate gaming machine that even the magazine "Maximum PC", in their annual "dream machine" issue cannot beat.



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Do you have a preference as to Processor brand? AMD or Intel?


I kinda like both meself, i got AMD this time, but my previous computer (now used by my younger brother) has an Intel.

They both really really have good pro's and con's, though i must admit truthfully, AMD Messed up big time with the new Quadcores. The current shipments are fixed but the TLB bug i explained before which causes a Guaranteed error once every 2 weeks if a PC would be at 100% full load (which comes down to a once every 2 months guaranteed freeze) really gave them a dent.

AMD Isn't dead though, far from, they have a rough time yes, but if you see the investors pumping money into them they'll be here for a while.


- Intel Camp:

Pro's:

~ Energy Efficient CPU's.
~ Top of the Line CPU's available.
~ Low Heat Production.
~ Awesome Over-Clocking Availability.

Con's:

~ Expensive, even mid-range models.
~ Stock Cooling is known to be noisier then AMD's Supplied fans.
~ Uses sometimes confusing codenames, whereas AMD simply multiplies, 2x 1200Mhz = +3400 (dualcores)



- AMD Camp:

Pro's:

~ Cheap yet reliable CPU's, especially their Dual Cores.(since of May the Quadcores (Phenom) are also reliable)
~ Known to have an edge over Intel Chips with calculating things for Games, while Intel Chips are sacrificing that but are better in the area of Video/Audio Decoding and so on.
~ Great for any budget-minded person, really nice things, you get what you pay for.
~ Silent Stock Cooling & Efficient stock cooling supplied.

Con's:

~ Limit at you get what you pay for, Awful Over-Clocking support.
~ CPU's aren't the most environmental friendly electricity drinkers.
~ Bite the dust when De/Encoding Video/Audio.




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If you ever need, i can go component hunting for you, just make a topic, give a budget, and any preferred sites to order from and you got a list within a few days, see previous people i've helped:

http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/68302.php

http://guildwars.gameamp.com/forum/showTopic/68625.php


Plus quite a few PM's regarding "this is my budget, what can you get with it" Questions, im sure the following persons can acknowledge that i've helped them:

Akela Xeroxz
IrishGrimReaper
dunkoro_flagger
Prokzimity
jaffar_al_kahyet
Cross
eiirish
anan saman

Im not yet entirely aware who and who hasn't yet got his new setup, i do know Jaffar should be getting his system very soon and he's going to built it himself, for those of the people in the list that have more or less bought components or the entire budget list, do give me a PM or tell me how it worked out, im pretty curious meself wether or not i made some people happy :P

Also, its all self-built, it saves alot on the price,Alot. And its too drat easy, just one question:

Can you handle a screwdriver?

If the answer is Yes, you are qualified to build your own computer, as the "where to put cables" is all in the manual, well, I'm sure you've been at school so your used to following things from the book.



Thats would be great! But first of all.. wouldn't you say it is better to get a pci videocard/motherboard than to get a agp? I've heard that many of the higher end(better) stuff is on the pci side..which makes the agp highend like a low end pci?

I will be sure to pm you:)

O...Please dont worry about the screwdriver thing ;), i build computers for a company from scratch. I have the basic knowledge of where things go. you are defaniately right about the price thing, it really is cheap buying everything cheap and than just building it for yourself. I just haven't got around to researching...



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Thats would be great! But first of all.. wouldn't you say it is better to get a pci videocard/motherboard than to get a agp? I've heard that many of the higher end(better) stuff is on the pci side..which makes the agp highend like a low end pci?

I will be sure to pm you:)


Make it public unless you are going to ask me to find you a PC Casing which features +18 rated paint jobs, it also helps out the less techwizards cause they can go like: "ahah" you know.


As for PCI, Its in any form better then AGP, even the lowest PCI-Express 4x is faster then AGP. Keep in mind, its not PCI, its PCI-E or Express, because PCI slots are of olden times, its where you connect your Audio Cards, Network & Extra USB port cards on, PCI (non Express) Video Cards still exist at some places, mostly just for tweakers who want to have something as reserve incase their overclock of the GPU BIOS goes wrong and they got to reset it. (long story short, they do things that your not supposed to be at at all)


PCI-Express is high-end, although PCI-E 2.0 is coming, PCI-Express 16x is still the Market standard for Graphics Processing Units, and it makes a very big difference.
Also, PCI-Express can send more Electricity (and faster speeds), depending ofcourse on the videocard, some AGP ones especially those from 2-1 year back who are one of the last generations sucked enough power that the AGP couldn't supply.

Though honestly said, you'll still have to plug in a cable nonetheless as the jump from AGP to PCI-E caused the GPU's to also become more power hungry :P



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Sorry for late post Family Guy was on. Ok back on topic you said what parts I already have. I have the mouse and keyboard... Ya my family has 4 computers 1 for each of us we have 1 desktop and 3 notebooks. Also thank you so much for your help I am very thankful.



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Ya it looks amazing i totaled it up without the screen to $3,125.


:) I guess i should find a job soon...

Also did you see it... it needed 3 fans for no overheating!


the part that really scared me was it needs a heatsink about the size of a camcorder just to keep the cpu from melting!!!!!!!!

also....150gig hard drive seems really really small for that kind of pc price.



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Every Ultimate Gaming PC meets Moore's Law and becomes a common in 18 months due to that law.

Funny thing is, it's not even a real law, yet it holds true.
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Bump for Tryops, i haven't forgot the request, im going to grill a list for you tonight, so come later and see what i made for dinner.


Also, you got any things you will keep? E.G Monitor, Speakers, Mouse & Keyboard? Or even the case? Unless you want me to dig up a nice looking one, i spotted this one which you might like unless you got something like that already, might aswell spend an extra tenner and go for miniature Las Vegas lighting:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...7938&CatId=1842



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Ok, i got the PM of the things i can skip, being only the Keyboard and Mouse.


First, il get on the Processors, as im putting the budget you had from 3500 to 1000 myself to around $1500, which is plenty enough, and puts me at some *freedom* to give optional prices:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz, 4MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Dual-Core, Socket 775

$299.99 = $ 300


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...1546&CatId=2396

The price/performance ratio of the E6600 is unrivaled, however, the E6600 was not in the list on TigerDirect, therefore im going for the highest in the segment, the E6850 running at 3 Ghz, we'll get on the price soon, i've got another one.


Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 2.40GHz, 8MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB, Quad-Core, Socket 775

$279.99 = $ 280


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...5631&CatId=2758

Now here's the catch, you can either take a Dual Core that rev's up faster, or you can pay slightly less but get 4 cores.
Now, the trick here is seeing what you truly need, because in *theory*, 4 = 4 and 2 = 2, 2 being the lowest number. If your heavy into CPU processes, such as games or programswith lots of threads then 4 cores can easily outrun a perhaps faster dual core simply because they can handle more threads simultaniously.
However, a 3Ghz dualcore has more power for example Encoding Video & Audio, though ofcourse, for a higher price you can also get a faster Quadcore.

This processor basicly equals the price of the Dual Core, however features 4 cores, but only runs a mild 100 Megahertz faster, but the price gone up by $20, my own opinion is that it doesn't exactly will make a stunning increase in performance, infact, you can even overclock it with a default stock fan to 2.50Ghz.

Now onto the Motherboard, good enough both CPU's need Socket 775, so i don't have to actually browse around for different Mobo's.



Motherboard:

Asus P5N-T Deluxe Motherboard

$ 269.99 = $ 270


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...6897&CatId=1533

The range of motherboards to choose from is massive, however, many especially if your aiming for Quadcore will be a bottleneck, let alone that some need a new BIOS when you are booting up the first time cause they won't recognise your quadcore instead. Thus i've looked around a bit, this motherboard isn't cheap, nor too expensive, it features alot, including SLi for future upgrades, and even the newest 1066Mhz RAM DDR2, though that means its heavily overclocked until ''Specialized'' DDR2 Ram comes out for such speeds, haven't seen em yet, and the price probably isn't too kind for your wallet.


RAM:

Corsair Dual Channel TWINX 4096MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz

$74.99 = $ 75


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...8139&CatId=2261

We need some RAM, this is 4GB, which easily suffices for now, you can always upgrade with an extra 2x 2GB batch whenever you want, do make sure you got a 64-Bit Operating System to utilized it fully, but unless your heavily into video, image or audio editing you wont need 8GB RAM for now. (FOR NOW :P)
This is the fastest RAM i could find, i recognise it from last time when i advised it to someone else.



Power Supply:

OCZ / StealthXStream / 600-Watt / ATX / 120mm Fan / SATA-Ready / PCI-e Ready / Active PFC / Power Supply

$69.99 = $ 70


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...2557&CatId=1483

OCZ is a company not too dedicated to Power Supplies, but their products are of very high standards, and the price they ask isn't that much, though other brands more mass produce PSU's, which is the difference.
This is a 600 Watt power supply, i don't care what people you meet in your life that will tell you you need more, because you won't, they dont have a clue what they talk about.
600 Watt doesn't mean you PC ever sucks 600 Watt, the setup you'll get maybe averages during peaks at 500 Watts, unless you got 6 Hard Drives and Triple SLi. Then you *might* actually need more.



Casing:

NZXT Apollo Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side, Front USB, Firewire and Audio Ports

$69.99 = $ 70


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...7938&CatId=1842

You needed a Casing aswell, you didn't mind that much but i think someone with your budget can spend an extra $20 to receive his own miniature Las Vegas lightdisplay, features also a transparent side so you can say Good Morning everyday, hey dont ask me, everyone has their traits ;)


Hard Drive:

Samsung HD753LJ SpinPoint F 750GB Hard Drive - 7200, 32MB, SATA-300

$159.99 = $ 160


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...29748&CatId=139

Expensive, but the best Hard Drive you can find on the market currently, it almost is equal to Western Digitals Raptor which only offers 74GB's, this baby gives you 750GB's, i say you can store alot, and i mean, Alot on it.
Features 300MB/s SATA2 Connection, 32MB Cache, and rev's at 7200RPM, the difference in speed isnt that it's not 10K RPM, but the fact it has multiple "platters" from which it can read.
Good thing, Good thing, im getting one myself at the end of this month :3

Tip: If formatting it newly with Windows, make a small Windows Partition of around 50-80GB, just for windows and perhaps some files like Photoshop you name it, so if something goes wrong, you dont lose all your movies, games and etcetera.


Speakers:

You need speakers obviously, browse here a bit if you like:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/ca....asp?CatId=2891


Logitech X-530 Surround Sound Speaker System

$69.99 = $ 70


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...60&Sku=L23-7110

An Excellent sound system, i bought it myself last week, for 80 euro's ($110) so your lucky with the price really. I've had 5.1 before, but it was aging and sound quality improvement over a timeline of 5 years is good i can tell you. Your Motherboard by default provides 5.1 Sound, though i advise a SoundCard for crisp sounds and to ease some processing of the CPU (not needed, but onboard chips dont deliver that good sound, same as dedicated graphics really)


Videocard:

XFX GeForce 8800 GT

$249.99 = $ 250


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...2055&CatId=1558

Before someone explodes into a mist of "WTFness WHY", i'l explain:

The 8800GTX and so on maybe slightly better, your paying literally $ 100 more for a 10% increase in performance at best, not worth anything. It would be more easier to later on as the prices go down to add another 8800GT (or better when Nvidia gets their software done for different cards to work in SLi) for 40% increase in performance.(Vista = Win for SLi)

Why im not going ATi is not a fanboy thing, the performance is better then the 8800GT, but the Dual Core Cards are expensive, and frankly, suffer from internal bugs so to say, as the performance *should* double right? No, only a rough 40-50% increase at best, dont fret, these are the firstborn childs of the Dualcore generation for GPU's, just like the CPU at first was full of optimization flaws, so are these. Best to stay away unless you like spending alot of cash, same goes for Nvidia's 9800GX2, im not a fanboy of both, Nvidia has my preference, but even i keep it real enough to say they also aren't totally good at Optimizing their Dual Cores *yet*.

If you must, go for the 8800Ultra then, but its price starts at $400, and the increase, a big 15% at best. See the Price/Performance ratio yourself.



DvD/CD Drive:

Philips SPD6104BD LightScribe Internal Drive DVD Burner - 20X DVD±R, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+RW, 48x24x CD-R/RW, SATA, Retail Black

$39.99 = $ 40


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...427283&CatId=89

Im not too well known to DvD Drives, but i think this one is good enough, you can burn, read, it cant do your dishes nor your laundry though, but for the rest i think it'll do, feel free to browse really, their all made to be inside your Computer.

Optional, Soundcard:

Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio

$64.99 = $ 65


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Se...4531&CatId=2771

Creative has good cards, but the only bad side is support & patches, they tend to be slow with that, slower then Windows even. Still, a soundcard is advisable, because its just better then onboard and you wont hear "white noise", Motherboards tend to do that, even high-end ones.

The 7.1 might seem overkill unless you go for 7.1 Surround, but these cards also feature more advanced sound technology, so they only promise better quality. Though in the end, which speakers you have depends still mainly on the quality, as they are the actual output, careful balance oh balance ;)




Monitor are a thing of choice and what you like, feel free to browse and if you find a few, just post the links and il see what i can find about them, i cant advise anything as its really a thing of how big you think you need them.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Ca...me=Monitor-LCDs


According to my decade old Calculator as a souvenir from Japan, i get $1370, [size=1(i rechecked with more modern things, its just a nostalgic thing, read: "everyone has their awkward traits")
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I think thats a nice price, and it includes the Soundcard and speakers aswell, plus the dualcore which adds +$20 instead of the quadcore.
Feel free if you want to post a slightly different setup if you want, your budget allows more so far i've seen, but this is what i can come up that is best this Month, as technology develops i won't get the same list for the same price next month for example :)




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3000 USD = 2000 €
2000 € = 1250 beers in the pub

1250 beers / 365 = 3.425 a day :D

Now that ain't a hard descission lol.



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3000 USD = 2000 €
2000 € = 1250 beers in the pub

1250 beers / 365 = 3.425 a day :D

Now that ain't a hard descission lol.


Computers tend to last less longer yeah, Brain Damage lasts forever whoop.



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Don't forget that that PC takes huge power supply :P and you need a monitor keyboard mouse etc... and if something breaks youre screwed, and that brain damage wont be that bad I guess. Im still fine lol (no im not drinking 3/4 a day, but its optional :P)



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i don't care what people you meet in your life that will tell you you need more, because you won't, they dont have a clue what they talk about.
600 Watt doesn't mean you PC ever sucks 600 Watt, the setup you'll get maybe averages during peaks at 500 Watts, unless you got 6 Hard Drives and Triple SLi. Then you *might* actually need more.


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and if something breaks youre screwed)


Warranty, plus i don't see how anyone these days can screw up doing this, its just put in slot, done, next slot, put chip in, done, next slot. Plug in Cables Done. Bingo.
The manual covers it 12 times over in various languages, only if your Dutch you have the natural trait of never bothering with manuals, otherwise it's fine.

Also, i only once heard someone literally screw up his PC, after he managed to get his Screwdriver right through his Graphics Card, don't ask me how though.



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Bump for Tryops, either he reads this or his PM, whichever is first xD



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