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M De Treville
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Well today is Earth Hour, I know most of you on the east coast already missed it but ya can still do it. :P
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| 03/29/08 21:16 |
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TheBeano
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Don't want you to feel alone here... I just finished observing this. Hopefully there's others that have too...
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| 03/29/08 22:14 |
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BobDown
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We did it at 8pm last night! (Australia)
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| 03/29/08 22:30 |
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M De Treville
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One of the many city's that participated.
Talk about lights out!
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| 03/30/08 02:44 |
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doesnt it cost more energy to switch a light on and off then to keep them on for a whole day?
anyways, looks pretty cool, shame i missed it
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| 03/30/08 05:21 |
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-Leppis
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Turku also participated:
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| 03/30/08 05:31 |
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This if pretty funny. It's not really going to help or anything =$ It has actualy the opposite effect. People think they have done só much against global warming now, they asume they can grab the car more often (for example).
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| 03/30/08 05:54 |
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stanzhao1
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| QUOTE | | This if pretty funny. It's not really going to help or anything =$ It has actualy the opposite effect. People think they have done só much against global warming now, they asume they can grab the car more often (for example). |
i dont think its an effort to save energy for that 1 moment, i think its more of an effort to make people more aware. i certainly would never had heard of it had they not done something like this.
Things like this are done often, as i said, not to save energy for that one moment, but to make people more aware so they will save energy all the time...
...i think thats the theory anyways
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| 03/30/08 06:02 |
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BobDown
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | This if pretty funny. It's not really going to help or anything =$ It has actualy the opposite effect. People think they have done só much against global warming now, they asume they can grab the car more often (for example). |
i dont think its an effort to save energy for that 1 moment, i think its more of an effort to make people more aware. i certainly would never had heard of it had they not done something like this.
Things like this are done often, as i said, not to save energy for that one moment, but to make people more aware so they will save energy all the time...
...i think thats the theory anyways |
Exactly!
That is what the whole event was for. Just to create awareness of global warming, and to show that people are willing to act. Obviously turning off lights for an hour won't do anything to help prevent it, but a global event like this certainly gets the message across to people.
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| 03/30/08 06:33 |
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Heard about it, could really care less :P To me 'Global Warming' is another government conspiracy. :)
"People are like slinkies; Basically useless, yet so amusing to watch fall down the stairs."
"No! He would kill you like a small dog. Let your anger be as a monkey in a pińata... hiding amongst the candy... hoping the kids don't break through with the stick!" - Master Tang
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| 03/30/08 06:41 |
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| QUOTE | | Heard about it, could really care less :P To me 'Global Warming' is another government conspiracy. :) |
yeah O.o
i c dem metlin ice caps wiv hairdryrs
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| 03/30/08 06:52 |
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| QUOTE | | Just to create awareness of global warming, and to show that people are willing to act. |
If you haven't heard of Global Warming by now you live under a rock (or you were freed from under the ice because it melted).
It was a nice symbolic act but (more or less) a bith too late.
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| 03/30/08 07:19 |
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I find this a hopeless sad act made for the wrong kind of group on this planet, the public hears "Global Warming" everyday in several combination of words, the public is a minor percentage in the actual "Heating".
Its the Industries that need to be looked upon, i get silly adverts and leaflets wrapped in plastic from time to time, now that's actually something that destroys the planet, failed attempt in my opinion, the public knows, and some act, but there's money to be made from global warming, its the trend;
Any company that now says: "We are Environmental Friendly" And manages to actually produce things 5% cleaner (you never see how much they actually save huh?) are declared Awesome and get all the funding etcetera, its just a little game, just keep delaying and when needed say you managed to go 1% more Anti-Global Warming to grab all that funding, Ka-Ching" ;)
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| 03/30/08 07:36 |
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Mr.Hobo
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And you guys are trying to stop global warming, while I freeze in Michigan... I need the heat. =/
Mr. Hobo
EDIT: Michigan is experiencing record lows for this time of the year, so brrrrr!
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| 03/30/08 07:57 |
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TheBeano
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OK, now you guys have me started. Way to go... :)
| QUOTE | I find this a hopeless sad act made for the wrong kind of group on this planet, the public hears "Global Warming" everyday in several combination of words, the public is a minor percentage in the actual "Heating".
Its the Industries that need to be looked upon, i get silly adverts and leaflets wrapped in plastic from time to time, now that's actually something that destroys the planet, failed attempt in my opinion, the public knows, and some act, but there's money to be made from global warming, its the trend;
Any company that now says: "We are Environmental Friendly" And manages to actually produce things 5% cleaner (you never see how much they actually save huh?) are declared Awesome and get all the funding etcetera, its just a little game, just keep delaying and when needed say you managed to go 1% more Anti-Global Warming to grab all that funding, Ka-Ching" ;) |
Interesting take on things and there is some truth to this. I am definitely a person that looks for companies to be ecologically sound. The thing to remember is that events like this are to raise public awareness. I'm willing to bet that just about everybody on this site is from a democratic nation. Who holds the power in a democratic nation? The people. The idea is to get enough of us on the bandwagon so that we can influence policy-makers - the government. If the public puts enough pressure on politicians (or doesn't elect those with that lack "green" attitudes), then the governments around the world can enact some changes (hopefully sooner than later).
Time is running out on this cause and we're getting behind the 8-ball. One thing to be aware of when talking a out climate change is that it is NOT NECESSARILY "global warming." Yes, the trend may be that the planet will gradually warm over time, but we may be seeing the extremes become more extreme as well. Hobo, if you're going through a colder winter, this could be a good sign that climate change is taking place. Also, what about the whole slough of powerful hurricanes we've had over the last few years? Anybody in the central US seen any bad tornadoes lately?
I will wrap this up shortly, I promise.
Efforts like Earth Hour are a great thing for public awareness. In order to make a difference in the world, you don't have to do a lot. Try to do one "green" thing a day. Try to think about what you're buying and how it can impact the environment - make a "greener" choice. All these little efforts can add up to something big. Most importantly, though, for those of you who are old enough to vote (and even those who are not), look at who we're electing to public office. Are they the best choice to save the planet?
One closing remark. Lots of people still don't believe that climate change is happening. To them, I say that everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but encourage them to look at some of the science behind this. If you still don't believe, then think of this: Would we not benefit from a cleaner environment anyway? How can you argue that pumping pollution (CO2 and other nasty stuff) into our environment is good for us as a whole?
Thanks for listening to my rant. Just so you all know, I speak from a very educated position on this. My first degree was in Environmental and Conservation Sciences.
It's great to see people discussing something like this, even on a gaming forum.
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| 03/30/08 10:54 |
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Mordakaida
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| QUOTE | doesnt it cost more energy to switch a light on and off then to keep them on for a whole day?
anyways, looks pretty cool, shame i missed it |
So small that it does not affect your bill.
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I believe earth hour is a feel good way of Ohhhh I am helping when in fact you are doing nothing to help the planet. Creating awareness is great but turning lights out for a hour then doing nothing for the next 364 days of the year means nothing.
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| 03/30/08 11:19 |
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Its just more bourgeoisie propaganda. Instead of of dealing with the CO2 thats produced by there industry (90% of which green house gases are produced from), they instead create some event that makes the public think they are helping the environment and diverting the public eye away from the CO2 they are producing.
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| 03/30/08 11:42 |
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God is my Judge
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| QUOTE | | Its just more bourgeoisie propaganda. Instead of of dealing with the CO2 thats produced by there industry (90% of which green house gases are produced from), they instead create some event that makes the public think they are helping the environment and diverting the public eye away from the CO2 they are producing. |
The majority of green house gases doesnt come from factories or things like that. The majority comes from animals, especially animals like cows and bulls. And more greenhouse gases are produced from the cars we drive daily than from factories, just look at LA or Beijing or Mexico City.
And on the whole Earth hour thing, I find it idiotic. What is one hour of low lights gonna do? Push the world to find a solution for greenhouse gases. No, it will be a nice distraction that will allow people to say "Hey, I did my part to solve the problems of greenhouse gases". And in 2 weeks people will have moved on to new things like the start of MLB season in the US or Russias new President.
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| 03/30/08 11:49 |
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| QUOTE | doesnt it cost more energy to switch a light on and off then to keep them on for a whole day?
anyways, looks pretty cool, shame i missed it
So small that it does not affect your bill. |
actually it doesnt. its roughly the same as keeping it on for like a second.
and i live in britian so we didnt do this. and yea this is all just feel good stuff. its just governemnts trying to divert our eyes away from the problems of the industrys they get all that tax money from. most of which goes to making war stuff. which is also bad for enviroment.
those planes and tanks dont run cheap ya know.
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| 03/30/08 11:50 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | Its just more bourgeoisie propaganda. Instead of of dealing with the CO2 thats produced by there industry (90% of which green house gases are produced from), they instead create some event that makes the public think they are helping the environment and diverting the public eye away from the CO2 they are producing. |
The majority of green house gases doesnt come from factories or things like that. The majority comes from animals, especially animals like cows and bulls. And more greenhouse gases are produced from the cars we drive daily than from factories, just look at LA or Beijing or Mexico City.
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Feel free to disagree with me, but I'm not going to go in to a discussion to how Im right or wrong - Im just here stating a view point.
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| 03/30/08 11:58 |
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