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Midnight-Ice
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Hey GA, i was searching the guides in CoH and wondering if Rad and Storm are good combo for Ill, and if it is, i wonder which is better, I tend to solo a lot, so i think Radiation fit me better, then again i like to PvP, so Storm also fits me fine, but i dont know which is better OVERALL.
And a build might be cool, Please and Thank you!
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| 05/28/08 15:35 |
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Mech beta
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Well......I dunno much bout controllers, so I'll summerize what I do know about Rad and Storm..
Storm has some good slows, KBs, and all around controlling a mob powers, like Snow Storm, Hurricane, and Freezing Rain.
Rad has powers that debuff like crazy, that make it easier to kill, and control, such as Lingering Radiation's -def and such.
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| 05/28/08 18:49 |
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Midnight-Ice
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So which do you think is best overall?
Triumph: Where your suppose to be!
Extreme Pyro lvl 50 controller Fire Control / Kinetics
Extreme Kaiser lvl 18 stalker Energy melee / Ninjitsu
Maxx Vicious lvl 46 tanker Superstrength / Willpower
Kritical hero lvl 33 Scrapper Spines / regeneration
Midnight Ice lvl 18 Blaster Ice Blast / Energy melee
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| 05/28/08 21:10 |
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Epsilon Unit
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Illusion does not pair good as good with storm as it does Rad, illusion has the most damage oriented controller set compared with all the other sets, this goes well with the huge resistance debuffs in Rad, they solo extremely well, i beleive they can, when well IOed solo AVs without breaking a sweat, Ive heard of them soloing giant monsters, not confirmed ive never seen it, but its a rumor, they are also one of the few trollers capable of completing the RWZ challenge, ive seen this and i have the persons build, it is as follows, This is also among the greatest pvp builds, as it is easily on par with a perma dom if not better, this puts you at Perma Hasten, Perma AM, Perma Indom Will, and about 2 seconds away from a permanent Phantom Army
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php
Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Blind
(A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
(3) Decimation - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(3) Decimation - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
(5) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(5) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 40
Level 1: Radiant Aura
(A) Doctored Wounds - Recharge: Level 53
(19) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 53
(23) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 53
(34) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 53
(36) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 53
Level 2: Radiation Infection
(A) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow: Level 50
(7) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff: Level 50
(15) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge: Level 50
(17) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance: Level 50
(17) Deflated Ego - Chance for Recovery Debuff: Level 20
Level 4: Accelerate Metabolism
(A) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(7) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
(19) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
(21) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
(21) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50
Level 6: Combat Jumping
(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30
(9) Kismet - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
(36) Kismet - Defense/Recharge: Level 30
(36) Kismet - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(37) Kismet - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
Level 8: Flash
(A) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold: Level 50
(40) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold: Level 50
(40) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge: Level 50
Level 10: Superior Invisibility
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 53
(11) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 53
(11) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 53
(13) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 53
(13) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 53
(15) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 53
Level 12: Enervating Field
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 14: Super Jump
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 16: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 18: Phantom Army
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(40) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 20: Lingering Radiation
(A) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Slow: Level 53
(37) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 53
(37) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow: Level 53
(39) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Damage/Slow: Level 53
(39) Tempered Readiness - Range/Slow: Level 53
Level 22: Health
(A) Healing IO: Level 50
Level 24: Stamina
(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50
(25) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
(25) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
(31) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
Level 26: Spectral Terror
(A) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 53
(27) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Fear/Recharge: Level 53
(27) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 53
(29) Glimpse of the Abyss - Endurance/Fear: Level 53
(29) Glimpse of the Abyss - Fear/Range: Level 53
Level 28: Choking Cloud
(A) Hold Duration IO: Level 50
Level 30: Assault
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 32: Phantasm
(A) Kinetic Crash - Accuracy/Endurance/Knockback: Level 50
(33) Kinetic Crash - Damage/Endurance/Knockback: Level 50
(33) Kinetic Crash - Damage/Knockback: Level 50
(33) Kinetic Crash - Accuracy/Knockback: Level 50
(34) Kinetic Crash - Endurance/Knockback: Level 50
(34) Kinetic Crash - Recharge/Knockback: Level 50
Level 35: Tactics
(A) To Hit Buff IO: Level 50
Level 38: Fallout
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 53
(42) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 53
(42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 53
(42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 53
(43) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 53
Level 41: Deceive
(A) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Coercive Persuasion - Confused: Level 50
(46) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge: Level 50
(50) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge: Level 50
Level 44: Indomitable Will
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(46) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(46) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 47: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 49: Vengeance
(A) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 2: Rest
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 1: Containment
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Set Bonus Totals:
+11% DamageBuff
+3.15% Max Endurance
+33% Enhancement(Accuracy)
+4% Enhancement(Confused)
+4% Enhancement(Heal)
+86.3% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
+1.5% Enhancement(Slow)
+2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
+81.3 (6.75%) HitPoints
+Knockback (Mag -3) to Self
+MezResist(Confused) (Mag 1.65%)
+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 4.95%)
+MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 2.2%)
+19% Recovery
+26% Regeneration
+2.5% Resistance(Smashing)
+6.62% Resistance(Fire)
+6.62% Resistance(Cold)
+3% RunSpeed
+1.5% Debt Protection
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| 05/28/08 22:46 |
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pathofwrath
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I love my Ill/Storm. She's a ton of fun to play.
That being said, I'm not sure what you mean when you ask which is better. To me, having fun is more important than being able to solo everything. I love being on teams. So what exactly are you looking for in your toon?
Path of Wrath - Storm/Elec/Elec Defender - 50
Miss Trinidad - Ill/Storm/Ice Controller - 50
Miss Cote d'Ivoire - Dark/Regen/Dark Scrapper - 50
Posey Punk - Grav/Kin/Stone Controller - 50
Mr. Azerbaijan - Kin/Psy Defender - 50
Laccolith - Earth/Rad Controller - 35
Geriatric Justice - Willpower/SS Tanker - 38
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| 05/29/08 01:04 |
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Chunkaliscious
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Here is a link to a way in depth guide to Ill/Storm from the OBs Click Me
Global @chunkaliscious
thanks Anachron
Triumph
COH ~ Triumph
Belluriel Swiftbow ~ 50 Kin/Arch/Power Mastery Defender
Gravity Killz ~ 44 Grav/Strom Controller
Belle Z'Errego ~ 36 Warshade
Whaka Zhashi ~ 33 Kat/DA Scrapper
Cerulian Ray ~ 30 Nrg/Nrg Blaster
Cpl. Punishment ~ 22 AR/Device Blaster
Nit Bipply ~ 20 Ice/Ice Blaster
Mesa Stone ~ 19 TA/Archery Defender
Cement.Mixer ~ 18 Stone/Storm Controller
Sable Stryke ~ 16 DM/Will Scrapper
COV ~ Triumph
Dread Pyrite Roberta ~ 42 Merc/Dark/Ghost Widow MM
Borzha Daragahi ~ 26 DB/WP Stalker
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| 05/29/08 01:37 |
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Electro
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And here's a linkie to an absolutely awesome guide to the Ill/Rad, right here on our very own site: http://cityofheroes.gameamp.com/guide/view...42.php!orderBy=
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| 05/29/08 10:21 |
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Midnight-Ice
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| QUOTE | Illusion does not pair good as good with storm as it does Rad, illusion has the most damage oriented controller set compared with all the other sets, this goes well with the huge resistance debuffs in Rad, they solo extremely well, i beleive they can, when well IOed solo AVs without breaking a sweat, Ive heard of them soloing giant monsters, not confirmed ive never seen it, but its a rumor, they are also one of the few trollers capable of completing the RWZ challenge, ive seen this and i have the persons build, it is as follows, This is also among the greatest pvp builds, as it is easily on par with a perma dom if not better, this puts you at Perma Hasten, Perma AM, Perma Indom Will, and about 2 seconds away from a permanent Phantom Army
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php
Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Blind
(A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
(3) Decimation - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
(3) Decimation - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
(5) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
(5) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 40
Level 1: Radiant Aura
(A) Doctored Wounds - Recharge: Level 53
(19) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 53
(23) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 53
(34) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 53
(36) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 53
Level 2: Radiation Infection
(A) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow: Level 50
(7) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff: Level 50
(15) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge: Level 50
(17) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance: Level 50
(17) Deflated Ego - Chance for Recovery Debuff: Level 20
Level 4: Accelerate Metabolism
(A) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(7) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
(19) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
(21) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
(21) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50
Level 6: Combat Jumping
(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30
(9) Kismet - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
(36) Kismet - Defense/Recharge: Level 30
(36) Kismet - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
(37) Kismet - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
Level 8: Flash
(A) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
(9) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(39) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold: Level 50
(40) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold: Level 50
(40) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge: Level 50
Level 10: Superior Invisibility
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 53
(11) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 53
(11) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 53
(13) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 53
(13) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 53
(15) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 53
Level 12: Enervating Field
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 14: Super Jump
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 16: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 18: Phantom Army
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(40) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 20: Lingering Radiation
(A) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Slow: Level 53
(37) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 53
(37) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow: Level 53
(39) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Damage/Slow: Level 53
(39) Tempered Readiness - Range/Slow: Level 53
Level 22: Health
(A) Healing IO: Level 50
Level 24: Stamina
(A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance: Level 50
(25) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
(25) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod: Level 50
(31) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(31) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
Level 26: Spectral Terror
(A) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 53
(27) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Fear/Recharge: Level 53
(27) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 53
(29) Glimpse of the Abyss - Endurance/Fear: Level 53
(29) Glimpse of the Abyss - Fear/Range: Level 53
Level 28: Choking Cloud
(A) Hold Duration IO: Level 50
Level 30: Assault
(A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 32: Phantasm
(A) Kinetic Crash - Accuracy/Endurance/Knockback: Level 50
(33) Kinetic Crash - Damage/Endurance/Knockback: Level 50
(33) Kinetic Crash - Damage/Knockback: Level 50
(33) Kinetic Crash - Accuracy/Knockback: Level 50
(34) Kinetic Crash - Endurance/Knockback: Level 50
(34) Kinetic Crash - Recharge/Knockback: Level 50
Level 35: Tactics
(A) To Hit Buff IO: Level 50
Level 38: Fallout
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 53
(42) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 53
(42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 53
(42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 53
(43) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 53
Level 41: Deceive
(A) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
(43) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance: Level 50
(43) Coercive Persuasion - Confused: Level 50
(46) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge: Level 50
(50) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge: Level 50
Level 44: Indomitable Will
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(46) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(46) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 47: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
(50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 49: Vengeance
(A) Defense Buff IO: Level 50
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 2: Rest
(A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 1: Containment
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Set Bonus Totals:
+11% DamageBuff
+3.15% Max Endurance
+33% Enhancement(Accuracy)
+4% Enhancement(Confused)
+4% Enhancement(Heal)
+86.3% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
+1.5% Enhancement(Slow)
+2.75% Enhancement(Terrorized)
+81.3 (6.75%) HitPoints
+Knockback (Mag -3) to Self
+MezResist(Confused) (Mag 1.65%)
+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 4.95%)
+MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 2.2%)
+19% Recovery
+26% Regeneration
+2.5% Resistance(Smashing)
+6.62% Resistance(Fire)
+6.62% Resistance(Cold)
+3% RunSpeed
+1.5% Debt Protection
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GREAT HELP EPS! i was always wanting to get perma Hasten and Perma PA, but when will i be a perma hasten and perma PA?
Triumph: Where your suppose to be!
Extreme Pyro lvl 50 controller Fire Control / Kinetics
Extreme Kaiser lvl 18 stalker Energy melee / Ninjitsu
Maxx Vicious lvl 46 tanker Superstrength / Willpower
Kritical hero lvl 33 Scrapper Spines / regeneration
Midnight Ice lvl 18 Blaster Ice Blast / Energy melee
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PanzerEXE
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I have a level 35 Illusion/Storm troller, and I LOVE it. My debuffs and slows from Storm Summoning are wonderful in conjunction with all of Illusion's pets. Trust me, Storm Summoning is extremely underrated. Tornado will save your life if used wisely, as will Hurricane. It really is a great build, although greatly underestimated by players.
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James Iscariot- Level 35 Illusion/Storm Controller
Arbiter Darkwind- Level 33 Thugs/Dark Mastermind [R.I.P.]
Jerimoth- Level 33 Super Strength/WillPower Brute
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I think I made up my mind with this mystery... Illusion/rad
yeah the thought of killing Giant monsters r amazing and the debuffs mite be nice for pvp nd nice also wiff soloing, seeig all the guides lean towerds rad, ill go wit it
Triumph: Where your suppose to be!
Extreme Pyro lvl 50 controller Fire Control / Kinetics
Extreme Kaiser lvl 18 stalker Energy melee / Ninjitsu
Maxx Vicious lvl 46 tanker Superstrength / Willpower
Kritical hero lvl 33 Scrapper Spines / regeneration
Midnight Ice lvl 18 Blaster Ice Blast / Energy melee
Purple Drop: 9
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Midnight-Ice
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and thanks for the links with the guides!
Triumph: Where your suppose to be!
Extreme Pyro lvl 50 controller Fire Control / Kinetics
Extreme Kaiser lvl 18 stalker Energy melee / Ninjitsu
Maxx Vicious lvl 46 tanker Superstrength / Willpower
Kritical hero lvl 33 Scrapper Spines / regeneration
Midnight Ice lvl 18 Blaster Ice Blast / Energy melee
Purple Drop: 9
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