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In another thread someone told a story of someone they saw that had obviously been PL'ed. Here's mine:
I was in Croatoa with my first Warshade and met a team of another warshade "No Name1" and his PB friend "No Name2".
I asked about a power that the WS was using (Inky Aspect) and he said "It's the best power a WS has! Stick with me and I'll teach you the way of the Warshade".
Anyway, after a little while teaming with these clowns I realized pretty quickly something was wrong. No Name1 was having us go through HIS missions, but was just sitting there a lot of the time.
After a few battles, I noticed this and said something to him a few times. As someone who hates being ignored, I told the team to wait up, crept up to a chunk of enemies and Tp'ed NN1 right into the middle of them.
He instantly took the controls and started fighting screaming "WHAT'D YOU DO THAT FOR!?"
Then I told the rest they might want to abandon ship and quit the team.
I wish they had the player notes feature back then so I could have flagged their globals, but I'm pretty sure I haven't seen them again since then.
Anyway, point being, no one should have a Kheldian and be that much of a choad. Anyone else have a story?
***Edited By Phase***
Do not use other players names.
(Jordan - Whoops... Of course Phase, sorry.)
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I've seen this a lot.
This is may not be someone that was Power Leveled just to get a Kheldian. Some people are just lazy and expect others to run their missions for them. Although it could very well be the fact you mentioned. They don't know what they are doing to begin with so instead of helping they just stand and watch.
As for Teleporting them into a mob. You got to watch doing that kind of stuff because it is concidered griefing. If you were reported as such your reasons for doing that will not justify your actions taken. You could have just quit the team and went on your own way.
Bad teams happen, so do bad players. Its part of the MMORPG world. Not all of us are "Uber Gamers". I believe here at Gameamp we have a collection of some of the best players in whole game. There are a lot of people that specialize in diffrent aspects which makes our SGs/VGs so much fun.
The rating system is awesome. I use it when I have to team with people I don't know. Great way to keep up with who's who.
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| QUOTE | I've seen this a lot.
This is may not be someone that was Power Leveled just to get a Kheldian. Some people are just lazy and expect others to run their missions for them. Although it could very well be the fact you mentioned. They don't know what they are doing to begin with so instead of helping they just stand and watch.
As for Teleporting them into a mob. You got to watch doing that kind of stuff because it is concidered griefing. If you were reported as such your reasons for doing that will not justify your actions taken. You could have just quit the team and went on your own way.
Bad teams happen, so do bad players. Its part of the MMORPG world. Not all of us are "Uber Gamers". I believe here at Gameamp we have a collection of some of the best players in whole game. There are a lot of people that specialize in diffrent aspects which makes our SGs/VGs so much fun.
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Griefing or not, it was funny as heck :D
And he didn't die, I just wanted to see what he'd do.
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| 06/06/08 08:41 |
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Right,wrong, or indiffrent it can still get you in trouble.
I'm not saying he didn't deserve it. I'm just saying watch doing it.
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| QUOTE | Right,wrong, or indiffrent it can still get you in trouble.
I'm not saying he didn't deserve it. I'm just saying watch doing it. |
No worries. It was a one-time thing.
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My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.
Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Doctor Kev 50 Necro/Dark Mastermind
Grave Sally 50 Rad/Kin Corruptor (slowest combo in existance)
Mudnuke 42 Earth/Rad Controller
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PL'd characters tend to have very few badges (especially exploration ones), and also very few contacts. They're ALWAYS looking for farming missions, too, to get all the salvage and recipes they DIDN'T get while actually playing.
I got into a ten-minute-long /tell argument with a PL'er because I wouldn't help him PL (or fill for his team, either). Personally, I think PL'ing is stupid - with enough actual thought, you really CAN play through the content and a get a lvl 50 character in a reasonable amount of time. It's just the chowderheads who want access to EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW that I look at with pitying glances.
And of course, then you have the dufuses who actually PAY to PL their characters, but, well... here's my opinion of THEM...
*smirk* It's a visual thing, but it makes the point.
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| QUOTE | PL'd characters tend to have very few badges (especially exploration ones), and also very few contacts. They're ALWAYS looking for farming missions, too, to get all the salvage and recipes they DIDN'T get while actually playing.
I got into a ten-minute-long /tell argument with a PL'er because I wouldn't help him PL (or fill for his team, either). Personally, I think PL'ing is stupid - with enough actual thought, you really CAN play through the content and a get a lvl 50 character in a reasonable amount of time. It's just the chowderheads who want access to EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW that I look at with pitying glances.
And of course, then you have the dufuses who actually PAY to PL their characters, but, well... here's my opinion of THEM...
*smirk* It's a visual thing, but it makes the point.
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yeah i've seen this a lot, the no badges, no real experience.
plus, that video was not only hilarious, but well done!
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| 06/06/08 10:39 |
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| QUOTE | PL'd characters tend to have very few badges (especially exploration ones), and also very few contacts. They're ALWAYS looking for farming missions, too, to get all the salvage and recipes they DIDN'T get while actually playing.
I got into a ten-minute-long /tell argument with a PL'er because I wouldn't help him PL (or fill for his team, either). Personally, I think PL'ing is stupid - with enough actual thought, you really CAN play through the content and a get a lvl 50 character in a reasonable amount of time. It's just the chowderheads who want access to EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW that I look at with pitying glances.
And of course, then you have the dufuses who actually PAY to PL their characters, but, well... here's my opinion of THEM...
*smirk* It's a visual thing, but it makes the point.
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Wait you did that video too? I LOVE that one! Especially the simple bow at the end.
You make a very good point about the badges. And you're right that it's easy enough to get to 50 without PL. I've found that since XP leveling, I've had to turn down my diff so I don't level too fast :D
Of course, that's great for my 10th or 15th toon on the same server that I just want to get up to the 30s so they can do the fun new stuff.
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My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.
Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Doctor Kev 50 Necro/Dark Mastermind
Grave Sally 50 Rad/Kin Corruptor (slowest combo in existance)
Mudnuke 42 Earth/Rad Controller
Shazel 38 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 38 Storm/Sonic Defender
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| 06/06/08 11:51 |
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That video was hilarious....and yes, the bow at the end was an awesome finish.
You can usually tell just by the way they play.
And if they keep dying and throwing the excuse.."man I can't believe this, this never happens..sry guys I gtg"
Also when you see the epic archtypes and the don't even have a 3 mos vet badge...might not wanna team with that toon.
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| QUOTE | | Also when you see the epic archtypes and the don't even have a 3 mos vet badge...might not wanna team with that toon. |
HA! OF COURSE!
How obvious a flag would that be :)
As much as I deactivate and come back, I still have 9months....
Of course, my second account has only about 2 months on it and I almost have a 50 Hero and Villain on it already :P
Well, still an awesome point :D
Jordan's Town
My lousy name for the comic that I did which can be found here CoH @ JeremyDuffy.com
My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.
Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Doctor Kev 50 Necro/Dark Mastermind
Grave Sally 50 Rad/Kin Corruptor (slowest combo in existance)
Mudnuke 42 Earth/Rad Controller
Shazel 38 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 38 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 38 Warshade, Jordan Yang 35 Peacebringer
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| 06/06/08 12:27 |
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A couple of things...and one thing to be careful of.
One, I got my first level 50 after playing for about 5 months. I have altitis, so I figure that if I had wanted, I could have easily hit 50 within the 1st three months. I also had 399 badges when I hit 50, so that's not a problem.
Two, I got my second 50 a few months later on the villian side, but decided to get experience and play the arcs and not worry about the badges...So I spend time planning and playing through the contacts as best I could.
Three, Jorden, I believe you were the one asking about getting help with evening out your two accounts so they were both due at the same time. If I had a second account, I would certainly be able to get a character to 50 and not have played much...especially if I needed a pocket healer to team with my brute or such. Does not mean I am a bad player....or inexperienced...
Lastly, and this is the one you have to be careful of. It has to do with the PB/WS that seems not to know much about the game. My whole family plays. Me, my wife, and my kids. My son got two level 50 characters on the villian side but wanted to make an AR blaster on the blue side. One of his goals was to get as many of the rifles unlocked as possible. My wife assisted him in this by taking him to various areas and helping to defeat the necessary bad guys to unlock them...such as the Fake Nems for the Nemesis rifles. Along the way, people would yell at him for being in a zone he shouldn't be in. They were both rude and vulgar at times. He didn't bother anyone and for pete's sake, he is 12....Along the way, my wife ran across a Peacebringer that was having trouble....low teens character that was being lambasted for asking what was termed as a 'stupid &&$#$# question' and was being rippied apart as a power leveler who was PLd to 50 and had no idea how to play the game.
My wife communicated with the person to see about helping them and found out that it was a 10 year old child who had made a character on his Mom's account and was playing the game for the 1st time. Since his mother had several 50s it allowed him to choose the epics as well. He told my wife that his mom sits with him when he plays, but had to go take care of the baby real quick (something my wife and I understand having a 2 year old) The kid got stuck in game and asked a question for help while his mother was changing a diaper and got ripped apart for it.
So please, ESPECIALLY for those of us that play on the blue side, ACT like the heroes we try to portray and help people. Spend a few moments to find out what the story is....If the person is complete jerk, then blast away...but just pullin out your flame gun and ripping into every person you think is a cheater, PLer, Farmer, or anything else that you think is bad, find out what the true story is.
You really gotta feel stupid when you realize you have been verbally pummeling a 10 year old who needed some help.
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I can't let this rest...my god....more and more keeps hitting me...
I also remember a time when we had a family team not long after starting the game. My wife, myself, our two sons ( 11 and 10 at the time) and my wife's 26 year old brother, were all grouped up and having some fun. We noticed a few people lookin for teams and invited them. We added three outsiders to our family group of 5.
Our 10 year old was a very astute player and with an incredible grasp of the english vernacular, passes as an adult when chatting online. (His mother is an English teacher). He is quite good in battle and understands strategy very well. His only problem was that he was a blaster and quite trigger happy from playing so many first person shooters... So he would mash his fire keys over and over...and as Many of you know...one hit of the button will target the next mob after one dies, and the next depress of the same button will fire.
Every once and a while, he would end up pulling another group, realize what he had done and dive behind his mother, the tank. His uncle was and IS an incredible defender and would ALWAYS keep us alive in these situations. So it wasn't a big concern.
Instead of asking what was going on, one of the three people we added started sending tells to the 10 year old asking "What the @#@$%% was wrong with him and why doesn't he delete his @#$%#$ account and go play something simple like tiddlywinks."
My son leaned his head over from his computer and asked my wife what tiddlywinks was....Which started the explosion...She went over and read what the person was typing to her son and imediately ripped into him for his ignorance while explaining that he was trying to rip apart a child who was playing a game with his entire family.
She booted the guy from the group and explained to the others what was happening. Turns out the other two in the group were a husband and wife with children our son's age and were wondering how to get everyone set up to play together...We have been great friends with them ever since.
I have to imagine that the idiot that was screaming at our son has no regrets about doing it....as that is what most idiots do...they do something stupid and never regret doing it. But I would like to think that somewhere in his little brain he did feel a little bad when he realized that he had been screaming at a child..
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Wait you did that video too? I LOVE that one! Especially the simple bow at the end.
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Yep, that was me as well. I've done six or seven different CoX videos now. "The Value of PWNage" is proving to be a favorite. :D
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"I make videos. People watch them. People like them, too. Now it's what I'm known for. Not because I'm nice, not because I'm a good player. I'm just 'that chick who makes videos.' Which now half the players want to be in, for some reason..."
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| 06/06/08 18:24 |
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| QUOTE | PL'd characters tend to have very few badges (especially exploration ones), and also very few contacts. They're ALWAYS looking for farming missions, too, to get all the salvage and recipes they DIDN'T get while actually playing.
I got into a ten-minute-long /tell argument with a PL'er because I wouldn't help him PL (or fill for his team, either). Personally, I think PL'ing is stupid - with enough actual thought, you really CAN play through the content and a get a lvl 50 character in a reasonable amount of time. It's just the chowderheads who want access to EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW that I look at with pitying glances.
And of course, then you have the dufuses who actually PAY to PL their characters, but, well... here's my opinion of THEM...
*smirk* It's a visual thing, but it makes the point.
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You stated everything i as going To. I dislike PLing of course Warron and I disagree and tend to argue a bit over it. Very funny video
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| 06/06/08 21:59 |
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I have a short story of a possible PL'er (or someone using anothers account) that made me wonder...
He was a level 50 Stone Tank and didn't want to use "Taunt" because in his (I assume it was a him) opinion it just causes aggro...
Now I took my first AT to 26 (Ice Tank) without Taunt or fitness Pool because I didn't know any better, however once I learned the merits of Taunt and was asked why I didn't have either Fitness or Taunt during a mission (kept resting to get end back) that I decided to do a respec and add them... Thusly Anachron was born and draws so much aggro even trigger happy blasters have trouble pulling the enemy away (all the debt badges by level 34 lol.)
| QUOTE | | I was in Croatoa with my first Warshade and met a team of another warshade "No Name1" and his PB friend "No Name2". |
| QUOTE | | Stick with me and I'll teach you the way of the Warshade". |
If this was on Champion server then I have met them (or someone with a remarkably similar name) who liked to quote remarkably similar quotes.
| QUOTE | | PL'd characters tend to have very few badges (especially exploration ones) |
Got to be careful of the "Few Badges" in the list of a lvl 50 being considered a PL'er.
I have my Arachnos Soldier to lvl 32 and only have 52 Badges (11 are Vet badges) (4 are exploration) I am more interested in how the AT plays and running missions so have done no badge hunting and only really have badges for inventing IO's, Vet, damage, earned etc and the ocassional (end of arc badge.)
It is possible to get to a 50 and have very few badges, heck I would have way less if my new VEAT was... well nm...
Point i'm making is you can have a high level AT with a low number of Badges and still have ground through missions or joined same level teams with skilled players (no PL'ing required) just depends on that persons skill, luck and slotting.
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| 06/07/08 06:11 |
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Got to be careful of the "Few Badges" in the list of a lvl 50 being considered a PL'er.
I have my Arachnos Soldier to lvl 32 and only have 52 Badges (11 are Vet badges) (4 are exploration) I am more interested in how the AT plays and running missions so have done no badge hunting and only really have badges for inventing IO's, Vet, damage, earned etc and the ocassional (end of arc badge.)
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I'm pretty sure 52 was not what he meant by very few badges. Many, many players are not bothering with exploration and history badges and have even fewer than 50 at level 50. It's when you see a level 50 who doesn't even have half that many that you have to stop and wonder, especially if he's missing such hard-to-avoid badges as Soul Binder and Tough. I only know one way to get to 50 in under 4 years without getting the Tough badge, and that's power leveling.
Oh, yeah. One other thing to watch out for is a 50 who has lots of debt badges, but few other badges. Debt badges are desirable only to hard core badge collectors. Only the most determined badge collector will deliberately solo Lusca over and over to get some debt to pay off. People who don't care about badges are getting those debt badges by getting defeated in their missions - or yours.
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| 06/07/08 15:57 |
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| QUOTE | | Oh, yeah. One other thing to watch out for is a 50 who has lots of debt badges, but few other badges. Debt badges are desirable only to hard core badge collectors. Only the most determined badge collector will deliberately solo Lusca over and over to get some debt to pay off. People who don't care about badges are getting those debt badges by getting defeated in their missions - or yours. |
i've seen this on a lot of PL bridgers, they repeatedly kill themselves so they stay at lvl 46 for longer, thus increasing their sidekick's xp.
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| 06/07/08 17:52 |
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i dont mind PLers at all. dont judge everyone that PLs on a few idiots. i have good friends ingame who have been playing just over a year and have more 50s than i have alts. the difference is they know how to play the game, no matter what character they are on.
its not the fact that a person PLs their characters that can make them a bad player. it the fact that they are just a bad player that makes them a bad player.
and about the badges thing, i didnt PL my troller to 50, just bridged once i hit 46. i dont think i even have 100 badges on her because its just not important to me to get badges on any toon. if i stumble into one, thats great, but i dont go looking
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| 06/07/08 20:29 |
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| QUOTE | i dont mind PLers at all. dont judge everyone that PLs on a few idiots. i have good friends ingame who have been playing just over a year and have more 50s than i have alts. the difference is they know how to play the game, no matter what character they are on.
its not the fact that a person PLs their characters that can make them a bad player. it the fact that they are just a bad player that makes them a bad player.
and about the badges thing, i didnt PL my troller to 50, just bridged once i hit 46. i dont think i even have 100 badges on her because its just not important to me to get badges on any toon. if i stumble into one, thats great, but i dont go looking |
Exactly how I look at it! +cred for you.
W.P.
Edit to add: One thing that shows me who cares about their character is the Witch Hat from Katie. Of course, anyone can get it, but I show it on all my characters because its like a badge for me. I take pride that I took the time to get it.
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| 06/07/08 21:07 |
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I have almost 300 badges on Marine X, but the other high levels toons have no where near that. The TP beacons are already acquired etc., I do sometimes enjoy Badge Hunting just for the hunt.
One thing that will indicate a PL toon to me is the Inability to buy their own Inspirations, especially Awakens, because they have yet to ever mature a contact to the point they could. Granted you would have to be on a team with them usually, but more than once I have had people PM me when on Talos at Wentworths or on Peregrine and ask if I would sell enhancements to them, or purchase them for them. Sad.
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| 06/08/08 06:19 |
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| QUOTE | A couple of things...and one thing to be careful of.
One, I got my first level 50 after playing for about 5 months. I have altitis, so I figure that if I had wanted, I could have easily hit 50 within the 1st three months. I also had 399 badges when I hit 50, so that's not a problem.
Two, I got my second 50 a few months later on the villian side, but decided to get experience and play the arcs and not worry about the badges...So I spend time planning and playing through the contacts as best I could.
Three, Jorden, I believe you were the one asking about getting help with evening out your two accounts so they were both due at the same time. If I had a second account, I would certainly be able to get a character to 50 and not have played much...especially if I needed a pocket healer to team with my brute or such. Does not mean I am a bad player....or inexperienced...
Lastly, and this is the one you have to be careful of. It has to do with the PB/WS that seems not to know much about the game. My whole family plays. Me, my wife, and my kids. My son got two level 50 characters on the villian side but wanted to make an AR blaster on the blue side. One of his goals was to get as many of the rifles unlocked as possible. My wife assisted him in this by taking him to various areas and helping to defeat the necessary bad guys to unlock them...such as the Fake Nems for the Nemesis rifles. Along the way, people would yell at him for being in a zone he shouldn't be in. They were both rude and vulgar at times. He didn't bother anyone and for pete's sake, he is 12....Along the way, my wife ran across a Peacebringer that was having trouble....low teens character that was being lambasted for asking what was termed as a 'stupid &&$#$# question' and was being rippied apart as a power leveler who was PLd to 50 and had no idea how to play the game.
My wife communicated with the person to see about helping them and found out that it was a 10 year old child who had made a character on his Mom's account and was playing the game for the 1st time. Since his mother had several 50s it allowed him to choose the epics as well. He told my wife that his mom sits with him when he plays, but had to go take care of the baby real quick (something my wife and I understand having a 2 year old) The kid got stuck in game and asked a question for help while his mother was changing a diaper and got ripped apart for it.
So please, ESPECIALLY for those of us that play on the blue side, ACT like the heroes we try to portray and help people. Spend a few moments to find out what the story is....If the person is complete jerk, then blast away...but just pullin out your flame gun and ripping into every person you think is a cheater, PLer, Farmer, or anything else that you think is bad, find out what the true story is.
You really gotta feel stupid when you realize you have been verbally pummeling a 10 year old who needed some help. |
Point well made, but I wanted to clarify that the reason this particular person bothered me so much was that he was going to "teach me the way of the warshade" and yet he was a clueless leecher.
It's funny that you bring up the kids playing though. A few ampers and I did a PI mission with my daughter (8 years old) player her LEVEL 1 blaster :)
I think that people who are rude to others for no reason are chumps and I always respond to help requests. I want CoX to be a game where people can feel welcome (unless they're gold farmers or rude, but that's another story).
Jordan's Town
My lousy name for the comic that I did which can be found here CoH @ JeremyDuffy.com
My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.
Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Doctor Kev 50 Necro/Dark Mastermind
Grave Sally 50 Rad/Kin Corruptor (slowest combo in existance)
Mudnuke 42 Earth/Rad Controller
Shazel 38 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 38 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 38 Warshade, Jordan Yang 35 Peacebringer
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| 06/09/08 08:22 |
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Jorden_Yen
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| QUOTE | I can't let this rest...my god....more and more keeps hitting me...
I also remember a time when we had a family team not long after starting the game. My wife, myself, our two sons ( 11 and 10 at the time) and my wife's 26 year old brother, were all grouped up and having some fun. We noticed a few people lookin for teams and invited them. We added three outsiders to our family group of 5.
Our 10 year old was a very astute player and with an incredible grasp of the english vernacular, passes as an adult when chatting online. (His mother is an English teacher). He is quite good in battle and understands strategy very well. His only problem was that he was a blaster and quite trigger happy from playing so many first person shooters... So he would mash his fire keys over and over...and as Many of you know...one hit of the button will target the next mob after one dies, and the next depress of the same button will fire.
Every once and a while, he would end up pulling another group, realize what he had done and dive behind his mother, the tank. His uncle was and IS an incredible defender and would ALWAYS keep us alive in these situations. So it wasn't a big concern.
Instead of asking what was going on, one of the three people we added started sending tells to the 10 year old asking "What the @#@$%% was wrong with him and why doesn't he delete his @#$%#$ account and go play something simple like tiddlywinks."
My son leaned his head over from his computer and asked my wife what tiddlywinks was....Which started the explosion...She went over and read what the person was typing to her son and imediately ripped into him for his ignorance while explaining that he was trying to rip apart a child who was playing a game with his entire family.
She booted the guy from the group and explained to the others what was happening. Turns out the other two in the group were a husband and wife with children our son's age and were wondering how to get everyone set up to play together...We have been great friends with them ever since.
I have to imagine that the idiot that was screaming at our son has no regrets about doing it....as that is what most idiots do...they do something stupid and never regret doing it. But I would like to think that somewhere in his little brain he did feel a little bad when he realized that he had been screaming at a child.. |
Great story! I mean, terrible story, but you know what I mean. I've had the same problem with people before. Once I teleported someone who'd just been added to the team and he started flipping out reaming me for TP'ing him when he wasn't ready. He was so rude that one other member of the team quit right then and there.
The leader dropped him and asked the other person to come back instead, but the rest of the team was just stunned wondering why, if he hates it so much, he didn't just turn on prompt TP.
In either case, I think we can agree that rude players suck. Period. I for one never give people a hard time for being new or inexperienced. It's generally attitude that gets me.
Jordan's Town
My lousy name for the comic that I did which can be found here CoH @ JeremyDuffy.com
My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.
Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Doctor Kev 50 Necro/Dark Mastermind
Grave Sally 50 Rad/Kin Corruptor (slowest combo in existance)
Mudnuke 42 Earth/Rad Controller
Shazel 38 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 38 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 38 Warshade, Jordan Yang 35 Peacebringer
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| 06/09/08 08:27 |
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Jorden_Yen
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | PL'd characters tend to have very few badges (especially exploration ones), and also very few contacts. They're ALWAYS looking for farming missions, too, to get all the salvage and recipes they DIDN'T get while actually playing.
I got into a ten-minute-long /tell argument with a PL'er because I wouldn't help him PL (or fill for his team, either). Personally, I think PL'ing is stupid - with enough actual thought, you really CAN play through the content and a get a lvl 50 character in a reasonable amount of time. It's just the chowderheads who want access to EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW that I look at with pitying glances.
And of course, then you have the dufuses who actually PAY to PL their characters, but, well... here's my opinion of THEM...
*smirk* It's a visual thing, but it makes the point.
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You stated everything i as going To. I dislike PLing of course Warron and I disagree and tend to argue a bit over it. Very funny video |
There's nothing wrong with PL'ing in general. For example, I'll be PL'ing my second account villain so I can have a VEAT on both account playing together. She made it from level 1 to 34 mostly by being a "pet healer" to my main villain anyway instead of actually doing any missions or arcs of her own so that's a bit of a PL too I figure.
Either way, I don't see anything wrong with people who PL certain characters for certain reasons. I don't even see a problem with someone new having their very first toon PL'ed so long as they understand that they are not "teh UBER pLayaz!" considering they've barely played the game.
Jordan's Town
My lousy name for the comic that I did which can be found here CoH @ JeremyDuffy.com
My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.
Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Doctor Kev 50 Necro/Dark Mastermind
Grave Sally 50 Rad/Kin Corruptor (slowest combo in existance)
Mudnuke 42 Earth/Rad Controller
Shazel 38 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 38 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 38 Warshade, Jordan Yang 35 Peacebringer
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| 06/09/08 08:29 |
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| QUOTE | He was a level 50 Stone Tank and didn't want to use "Taunt" because in his (I assume it was a him) opinion it just causes aggro...
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You made me laugh. Ten points automatically :)
Jordan's Town
My lousy name for the comic that I did which can be found here CoH @ JeremyDuffy.com
My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.
Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Doctor Kev 50 Necro/Dark Mastermind
Grave Sally 50 Rad/Kin Corruptor (slowest combo in existance)
Mudnuke 42 Earth/Rad Controller
Shazel 38 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 38 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 38 Warshade, Jordan Yang 35 Peacebringer
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| 06/09/08 08:31 |
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Jorden_Yen
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| QUOTE | | People who don't care about badges are getting those debt badges by getting defeated in their missions - or yours. |
Not that you need the points, but 10 for making me laugh.
The thing I don't get is when people don't bother to get the badges for the accolade powers. People will pay millions for an IO that increases a stat, but the accolades which are permanent and free they don't bother with?
Any toon I like enough to play past level 14, I take the trouble to work towards every accolade bonus there is. In fact, with 3 numina TFS, all my heroes will have TF commander and they all have Atlas medallion already. Still working on the others.
Jordan's Town
My lousy name for the comic that I did which can be found here CoH @ JeremyDuffy.com
My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.
Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Doctor Kev 50 Necro/Dark Mastermind
Grave Sally 50 Rad/Kin Corruptor (slowest combo in existance)
Mudnuke 42 Earth/Rad Controller
Shazel 38 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 38 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 38 Warshade, Jordan Yang 35 Peacebringer
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| 06/09/08 08:36 |
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| QUOTE | I have almost 300 badges on Marine X, but the other high levels toons have no where near that. The TP beacons are already acquired etc., I do sometimes enjoy Badge Hunting just for the hunt.
One thing that will indicate a PL toon to me is the Inability to buy their own Inspirations, especially Awakens, because they have yet to ever mature a contact to the point they could. Granted you would have to be on a team with them usually, but more than once I have had people PM me when on Talos at Wentworths or on Peregrine and ask if I would sell enhancements to them, or purchase them for them. Sad.
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I second this. I only have four "badge hunters" One main on hero side (Jordan of course) and a main on my Villain side (Doctor Kev, my highest villain and a dark/necro MM).
I have two back-ups just because I entertained the thought of having those two characters be my main badgers for a while until I realized that without AoE damage it would take freaking forever to get some of the badges, but all other toons only get badges if there's a point (accolades, arena, weapons, or title) or if it's an accident.
Who has the time to be a badge hound on every toon, and why would they bother anyway?
Ex. Screaming Gale HAD to have the "Weathergirl" badge from Faultline for her title :D
Jordan's Town
My lousy name for the comic that I did which can be found here CoH @ JeremyDuffy.com
My favorite guide - Advanced Costuming. How to work your costume into your character's theme, story, and playstyle.
Jordan Yen 50 Dark/Dark/Dark Defender
Doctor Kev 50 Necro/Dark Mastermind
Grave Sally 50 Rad/Kin Corruptor (slowest combo in existance)
Mudnuke 42 Earth/Rad Controller
Shazel 38 Fire/fire/fire blaster
Screaming Gale 38 Storm/Sonic Defender
Jordan Yin 38 Warshade, Jordan Yang 35 Peacebringer
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| 06/09/08 08:40 |
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Well, anytime I see someone not knowing what they are doing on the team I usually will wait to see if there is any conversation from that or those character(s)...if not, I usually assume somrone is playing for the first time or close to it. If they start talking smack...and everyone is dying all the time and they continue to do it...I just quit, no need to waste my time with those players. I never talk smack because of the reason there is such a wide age range playing online game in general.
I have played with a toon before and there was no response and it was obvious they were learning the game. About 15 minutes later I get a message apologizing, that his 6 year old son was playing on his account. I said no problem, let me know if he needs any help or he can just follow around.
He did, we died numerous times in the hollows and I did not care, I just thought it was kinda cool just helping a newer player out. I knew what it was like 4 years ago when I was just learning the game and I have met some really cool peeps in game and I have met a few not so cool peeps too. The cool out weighs the not so cool. If there is just some complete moron that is flaming, griefing and a pain in the rear, just quit, report and ignore... don't waste good playing time dealing with a downer. I always help new toons out as long as they stay cool and remeber it is only a GAME...have fun with it and if you can't do that move on.
Sorry for the novel.
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| 06/09/08 16:46 |
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After all the years i've played this game, I think I can spot em pretty well. they are the ones with the high level chars that have either picked all the wrong powers (ex: ive been on a second respect tf, which is well in the 30's mind you and found out that the stone tank on our team only took all the passive armors. . .but had all the travel powers and seemed to like flurry alot lol) or just play inexperienced. It also sucks to be on a team with someone who is trying to two box (run two accounts and two comps at the same time) and doesnt let the team know that they are running two chars. I can whole heartedly understand and empathize with jordans frustration with the jerk on the team. Personally I would have thought it funny to have witnessed the tp on him.
As far as PL'ing in general. Ive played through the story arcs on blue as well as red side and with all these new char slots in my account . . .well needless to say my supergroup does condone power leveling. However most of us keep it insulated to just our group. It also builds a bit of unity with us as we all pull together to get a few lvl 50's and then team up with a few others within our sg who want a few levels. it helps us build base prestige as well as those who contribute the 50's earn recipes as well as prestige and influence. Our group sees it as a win/win
Dont worry, none of the members from my group will be pestering anyone at peregrin isle for pl'ing lol. Gods only know ive been harrassed enough by those kind of desperate and xp starved souls when my lvl 50's show up there.
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Big Puppy-lvl 50 super strength/energy aura brute
Silver Puppy-Lvl 50 Peacebringer
Gargoyle Icestorm-Lvl 50 ice/storm controller
Candella Midnight- lvl 50 ill/kin controller
Kyra Tangleroot-Lvl 50 Plant/Sonic Controller
Captain F Bomb-lvl 38 dark/elect defender
Porcupine X-lvl 37 spine/willpower scrapper
Nether Puppy-lvl 28 Warshade
Various others. . .altoholic maximus
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| 06/10/08 06:58 |
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The main way to spot a PL'ed type is lack of basic skills and moves for level. Which lift door do they take, do they charge blindly into a room (if not the Tanker :), blasters who line up with the tanker with no or few melee powers, defenders who are too busy shooting to heal or buff etc. Combine this with no background and you have the PL'er, out of the box.
As for the harshing others for bad or poor play, is not on! If you must make a suggestion to others, do it in the team channel and be nice about it. Others might not like your style as well.
If after that, if they still are failing to take notice, finsh the misson and leave. Always play nice and you'll get more out of the game.
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