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HackingHippie89
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I've been gone for a few days and it seems shit has hit the fan...why has jarm reduced themselves to an idiotic flamer?
Also....why the hell would it matter that the new GM plays pvp more than pve, he is still highly proficient at both and this will offer alot more to the site than a pve only GM
i really thought you were smarter than that...
if anyone is curious, i will be holding a funeral for GW:GA monday, june 30th
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| 06/08/08 21:07 |
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Cocky Rocky
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Is it really that bad......?
Only the flamer part is new the idiotic part was always there and one person having a problem with a pvp admin is really nothing to be worried about.
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| 06/08/08 21:23 |
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HackingHippie89
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if it were just some random nobody bitching about wyat then yeah, no big problem
but when its an old member of the community that has never before acted like...well frankly a complete child
you say "its just one person"...what if kanna starts randomly flaming people about absolutely meaningless crap
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| 06/08/08 21:54 |
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killerforce
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Well doesnt help also that admin also start to flame also ...they should be acting better
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| 06/08/08 22:23 |
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Hydras First
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If you ask me, some people got a little to sensitive and forgot to laugh when things were meant to be a joke.
Got that in before this becomes locked.
'Sort of' is such a harmless thing to say. Sort of. It's just a filler. Sort of - it doesn't really mean anything. But after certain things, sort of means everything. Like after 'I love you' or 'You're going to live' or 'It's a boy.'
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| 06/08/08 22:28 |
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TheBeano
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Yup, I think we all need to take a step away for a while and have a look at this again tomorrow. I think we've got too many egos conflicting here.
What we all need to remember is that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you don't agree with it, fine, but it doesn't need to result in flaming. It's really quite simple. Take it to a PM if you have a "flame-like" comment.
Anyway, here's to hoping this gets cleared up soon, without too many people leaving us...
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| 06/08/08 22:51 |
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Ataxia
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Wyats horrible, jarm b!tchs to much.
That being said, this site was dead the moment jeni left, dru got promoted, and screwed the site into the pile of crap we have now, grift took over when she "resigned" (aka got fired) and hasn't done a thing since he took over besides promote people who are incompetent and biased. (as in, he never responded to any of Kannas msgs. about the site, gettin things fixed etc etc etc...)
I know for a fact that afew long standing members left here, don't like it very much anymore. I see something funny on the forums and its a chore to get them to go look at it/respond to the thread.
The site gets no new people because of the malware warnings, the devs can't do much for the site anymore since they had to get extra jobs to help keep the site active. Reason for this, GA Core. The people they got to write the program screwed them over, and they had to start from scratch with a new company and its costing alot of money.
Other parts of the site are dead, many of them haven't had a post in weeks/months and I'm sure the devs could save a little bit by shutting them down.
I'd say more, but I don't know for sure what is OK to say anymore, this place has been a pain in my ass for a long time, cya at the funeral, come see me on the AoC side if you guys can run it.
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| 06/08/08 23:42 |
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The Guardian of Amp
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but when its an old member of the community that has never before acted like...well frankly a complete child |
Not the first time this has happened.
There is a long( in terms of GW any way) history between Wyat and Jarm, not a real good one.
I give them credit for what they (staff) do, on the same token wonder on some of their decisions. Ultimately the site is in their hands.
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| 06/09/08 00:00 |
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Rogue
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PvE drama? WTF...
Monsters explode when you look at them, how do you compare skill...
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| 06/09/08 02:14 |
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Ataxia
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What you mean rogue? I don't see any "PvE" drama here...
Oh and like I've said before, PvP in GW requires far less skill then PvP in AoC... At least when your playing a balanced class. Had a 1v1 that went on for 10 mins... and neither of us were a healer, just kiting and natural regen lol, ended in us walking away with no kill xD.
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| 06/09/08 02:24 |
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mriswith
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There is a lot i can/would say about this matter; but i won't. Simply because it is no avail to throw things around that won't help this discussion from ending. So i will try to keep it simple:
Wyatt might be a PvP player; does that mean he can't be an SM? I always felt those were seperate subjects. A SM must have affination with the game for which he is SM on this site: Wyatt is that. A SM has to be a general source of knowledge of the game, for which Wyatt applies as well.
Another major aspect is that he has to be able to get people to do things; we can't check that on the public fora; but there is a reason grift has promoted him. I have always seen grift as a good staffer and thejeni always praised him highly; and gaining her faith was never easy: you had to prove yourself. Staffers that didnt, did not last long.
Surfacing the subject Drucilla will not help either. Yes; she has done wrong in a lot of aspects (been there done that... SM'ing under her reign wasnt much fun to say the least); but it seems that people forget the good things she has done. For instance: close contact between devs and SM's for requested updates/fixes (i know the ones i asked for happened: for instance the fix of the armorsection. Images couldnt be uploaded; elite armors couldnt be sorted as such and so forth, didnt happen fast; but it did happen in the end after pushing a lot) and she was busy with sponsors. Sadly those didnt stick around; but hey: she tried and put a lot of effort in it.
Fact that GW @ AMP is dying is due to GW getting stale. Everything is uncovered; everything is done; no-one needs help anymore. When was the last time that someone asked for 'real' help on this forum? About 2 years ago when NF came out. The common topics are random, about virusses and how much GA is dying and how it is the fault of the staffers. Reminder: A community is made by its members: not the staffers. Staffers are merely there to aid when needed and to add content to the site.
The content editing has been lacking for some time (skill updates etc) but then again: who reads them nowadays? I know i do not.
The fact that Jarm is displeased about Wyatt being SM might have its roots in things that have happened, and yes; i agree to the fact that he could have been a bit more subtle with this. But since the tight 'thejeni' rules have been dropped; a lot of people have started to get a bit more aggresive. Cause and Effect: loosen rules: people will use it and express themselves in such ways.
Also the fact that GA gets hit by virussus and spyware doesnt really help to keep things alive here. But without the google ads; GA wont be here for long anymore. It's choosing out of 2 evils.
Lets all take a step back; take a deep breath and lets try to make this a better place again. All members need to put in the effort; otherwise it simply won't happen. And in that case it's simply over. And saying the staff is the cause of it is bull; as i said: members make the community; not the staff.
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| 06/09/08 02:35 |
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stanzhao1
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I give them credit for what they (staff) do, on the same token wonder on some of their decisions. Ultimately the site is in their hands. |
... no pressure then... O.o
and why cant we all just get along?
and saying the staffers should always be setting the good example? what about the actual members of this site acting dare i say it... normally?
you cant rely on the staffers to babysit everyone here. The members of the site are what makes or breaks this place, and when everyone is being a douche, you start a downward spiral.
Honestly, i'm not exactly sure why everyone keeps acting this way. it puzzles me as to what the aim of this kind of behaviour is. If its just attention seeking while getting everyone to dislike you in the process, you have been successful. So what next? When will you be happy?
What is it about the internet that makes you feel so right about what you say? because you can hide behind a keyboard it makes it ok to act stupid?
please, someone tell me because i'm having a really hard time understanding
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| 06/09/08 02:38 |
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Rogue
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Oh and like I've said before, PvP in GW requires far less skill then PvP in AoC... At least when your playing a balanced class. Had a 1v1 that went on for 10 mins... and neither of us were a healer, just kiting and natural regen lol, ended in us walking away with no kill xD.
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Depends on your definition of balanced. AoC is balanced for 1v1 combat, GW is balanced for 8v8 combat.
In AoC as soon as you get a guild vs guild rampage thing going on, stuff just blows up and you can't do anything about it.
Also: Gank.
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| 06/09/08 02:40 |
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Ataxia
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Umm... no... its balanced around 48v48 siege fights... Unfortunately those aren't really being done yet because theres maybe 4 guilds in the world that have the funds/max level players to do that.
EDIT: On the subject of ganking... I have just this to say, you rolled on a pvp server, your gonna get ganked qqmoar carebear. (not you but in general)
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| 06/09/08 03:19 |
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Calypso_FtW
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all blame drucilla for destroying the site imo he/she/it was a horrible person in many aspects
No ur not, ur a ranger.
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| 06/09/08 04:18 |
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lord_gkar
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| QUOTE | | to an idiotic flamer |
I dont think so I have my reason and I believe they are valid, I did not say the innvolve party do not deserve what they achieve just that I believe them to be bias.
hippie you knnow me well enough to know that I base my comment to fact not speculation.
thus seeing as of late the many promotion and I dare say those that did gett promoted deserve the honor because of there hard work and dedication, namelly mimori and stan.
my main issue we all know.
but I am not here to plead for mercy, but just to let you know I do not run from this site. Why you ask, mainly cause I learn too much from many peeps on here, Rogue, kanna and yes even wyat (and I believe he learn fromm me on his pvp mesmer too but oh well)
so all be told, we shall see how this transpires inn the future, one thing for sure I will be watching
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| 06/09/08 06:54 |
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RevBudGreen
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| QUOTE | | all blame drucilla for destroying the site imo he/she/it was a horrible person in many aspects |
I agree with that. Had my issue, privately, with him/her. Simply put she was wrong, I proved it, and she didn't like it.
With that being said.....
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the staffers here volunteers? They aren't getting paid for this. Be glad you have a forum to express your self. Even if it comes with a little censorship.
PETA....IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER
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| 06/09/08 06:56 |
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-Leppis
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I beliebe the forums are getting better and more active when the GW2 gets released. Or at least the GW2 section.
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| 06/09/08 07:09 |
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Kikuta
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| QUOTE | | I know for a fact that afew long standing members left here, don't like it very much anymore. |
A few maybe, but not all. I'm still here, granted no-one cares.
It's normally easy enough to ignore the flame-storms, but lately a number of you have just gotten all too confident. I don't understand why you need to publicly post your grievances about site staff and administration, rather than keeping it between yourselves. What I don't understand at all is why you haven't been dealt with.
Half the people that have posted in this thread already shouldn't be on here anymore. In fact, most of them are the prime causes of the recent flux in crap we've been seeing. I don't need to name anyone, we all know who you are and so do you.
It's the keyboard warriors that have the digital balls to stand up to the admins and openly break site rules that are f***ing everything over. We don't care about your opinions regarding PvP; we don't care if someone gives 'bad' or 'wrong' advice - we don't need 3 pages of two people in a flame war where anyone that interjects cops a 3rd degree burn!
You know what I think? Lengthy bans to all the people that have been involved in all this stupidity, so that the less 'hardcore' members don't have to listen to it anymore. It's killing off visitors, and surely disgracing the AMP alliance (I may not be a member anymore but it's not as if I have an agenda against them like the vast majority of non-members here).
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| 06/09/08 08:01 |
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-Leppis
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | I know for a fact that afew long standing members left here, don't like it very much anymore. |
A few maybe, but not all. I'm still here, granted no-one cares.
It's normally easy enough to ignore the flame-storms, but lately a number of you have just gotten all too confident. I don't understand why you need to publicly post your grievances about site staff and administration, rather than keeping it between yourselves. What I don't understand at all is why you haven't been dealt with.
Half the people that have posted in this thread already shouldn't be on here anymore. In fact, most of them are the prime causes of the recent flux in crap we've been seeing. I don't need to name anyone, we all know who you are and so do you.
It's the keyboard warriors that have the digital balls to stand up to the admins and openly break site rules that are f***ing everything over. We don't care about your opinions regarding PvP; we don't care if someone gives 'bad' or 'wrong' advice - we don't need 3 pages of two people in a flame war where anyone that interjects cops a 3rd degree burn!
You know what I think? Lengthy bans to all the people that have been involved in all this stupidity, so that the less 'hardcore' members don't have to listen to it anymore. It's killing off visitors, and surely disgracing the AMP alliance (I may not be a member anymore but it's not as if I have an agenda against them like the vast majority of non-members here). |
The bans are pretty much useless.. u can always use those proxy servers so you cannot be banned and always come back.
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| 06/09/08 08:22 |
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| QUOTE | | The bans are pretty much useless.. u can always use those proxy servers so you cannot be banned and always come back. |
Not naming any names :P
I must use my staff powers only to annoy.
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| 06/09/08 08:39 |
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Kikuta
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| QUOTE | | The bans are pretty much useless.. u can always use those proxy servers so you cannot be banned and always come back. |
And anyone that's pathetically driven enough to bypass a ban on a forum with such a small regular-posting user base as this will only show us how much of a waste of air they are.
They can create new accounts, but so can the admins can route them out and ban them again, and again, and again.
If GA were stricter about their rules, it'd just be too much of a mission for the trolls/flamers to keep going. If they want to make a new account and keep being an ass about things on there, they'll be banned. If they make a new account and keep quiet, everyone wins because they're not doing anything worth banning them for.
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| 06/09/08 09:12 |
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Rogue
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| QUOTE | Umm... no... its balanced around 48v48 siege fights... Unfortunately those aren't really being done yet because theres maybe 4 guilds in the world that have the funds/max level players to do that.
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That's the problem though, with open PvP you cannot balance it perfectly. Or with REALLY large scale PvP even. Even Guild Wars isn't balanced in terms of 8v8. It just gets worse the larger you get. Look at WoW for instance. AoC is alot of fun and all, but I'm just scared that they'll be like WoW and never achieve anything resembling balance.
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| 06/09/08 11:16 |
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Aeon
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| QUOTE | | if it were just some random nobody bitching about wyat then yeah, no big problem |
lord_gkar has always been a random nobody.
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| 06/09/08 11:16 |
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Aeon
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Learn facts before you talk crap kthx.
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| 06/09/08 11:18 |
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Aeon
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | to an idiotic flamer |
I dont think so I have my reason and I believe they are valid, I did not say the innvolve party do not deserve what they achieve just that I believe them to be bias.
hippie you knnow me well enough to know that I base my comment to fact not speculation.
thus seeing as of late the many promotion and I dare say those that did gett promoted deserve the honor because of there hard work and dedication, namelly mimori and stan.
my main issue we all know.
but I am not here to plead for mercy, but just to let you know I do not run from this site. Why you ask, mainly cause I learn too much from many peeps on here, Rogue, kanna and yes even wyat (and I believe he learn fromm me on his pvp mesmer too but oh well)
so all be told, we shall see how this transpires inn the future, one thing for sure I will be watching |
Quite frankly, you're an idiot.
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| 06/09/08 11:19 |
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Aeon
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | The bans are pretty much useless.. u can always use those proxy servers so you cannot be banned and always come back. |
And anyone that's pathetically driven enough to bypass a ban on a forum with such a small regular-posting user base as this will only show us how much of a waste of air they are.
They can create new accounts, but so can the admins can route them out and ban them again, and again, and again.
If GA were stricter about their rules, it'd just be too much of a mission for the trolls/flamers to keep going. If they want to make a new account and keep being an ass about things on there, they'll be banned. If they make a new account and keep quiet, everyone wins because they're not doing anything worth banning them for. |
If people didn't take everything so seriously and cry about someone on the internet, there wouldn't need to be stricter rules.
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| 06/09/08 11:21 |
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-Leppis
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what am i aeon? :D
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| 06/09/08 11:22 |
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stranger of kryta
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Where to begin?
messin :D but not really 0_o
I must use my staff powers only to annoy.
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| 06/09/08 11:24 |
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Aeon
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A hypocrit?
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