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https://microsoft.order-5.com/windowsvistaS...t/shipping.aspx
Click the link and sign up. It only works for US though. :X
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| 07/08/08 11:56 |
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anyone wanna get me a copy and mail it to the uk?
srlsy, been wanting to try vista before buying, but really dont want to have to go to certain "sites" and use certain "p2p" software to do it just to get an out of date buggy version of vista.
sometimes i wish i lived in the us, just sometimes tho ;)
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b....but
vistas baed
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| 07/08/08 12:27 |
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| QUOTE | b....but
vistas baed |
QFT
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| QUOTE | anyone wanna get me a copy and mail it to the uk?
srlsy, been wanting to try vista before buying, but really dont want to have to go to certain "sites" and use certain "p2p" software to do it just to get an out of date buggy version of vista.
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Download it and install it, 30 days to try it out unless you go buy a valid key (or find a crack :P ).
As far as I am aware, the 30 day "trial" gets all the updates and everything, and can be reset from what I've read, 3 times.
PS: There are ways to crack vista to be fully activated, its up to you and google to find them though.
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vistas baed |
Only if your a computer nub.....I've been running Vista Ultimate 64x for ~1.5 months and I have not had any problems with it. Infact, its running better than XP ever did.
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| 07/08/08 12:38 |
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Isn't 64-bit just way better to use? Why use 32 Bit, the issues it causes was with XP, Vista 64-Bit is pretty much clean, its just the price that does not make it worth for me buying, it doesn't offer me anything new under the sun that i don't have right now.
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| 07/08/08 12:48 |
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| QUOTE | | Only if your a computer nub... |
And if you got enough RAM, which now a days isn't that much of a problem.
Sidenote: Would giving it to a laptop with 512MB RAM be 'nub'? Then the people at a well known electronicsstore are nubzorz.
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| QUOTE | | Sidenote: Would giving it to a laptop with 512MB RAM be 'nub'? Then the people at a well known electronicsstore are nubzorz. |
It depends what the computer is being used for. If its just for web browsing or something, then 512 should be fine. If its for casual gaming, 1GB minimum, if its meant strictly for gaming, 2GB minimum.
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| 07/08/08 14:33 |
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Regarding the laptop, if you got a USB stick, you can use it as virtual RAM using the options in the configuration of windows, i've seen several kids last year doing that with their laptops to play games, like WoW, sure its lesser, but it still requires quite some RAM.
Im not sure if its any performance boost, but they prefered it over normal HDD virtual memory.
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| QUOTE | Regarding the laptop, if you got a USB stick, you can use it as virtual RAM using the options in the configuration of windows, i've seen several kids last year doing that with their laptops to play games, like WoW, sure its lesser, but it still requires quite some RAM.
Im not sure if its any performance boost, but they prefered it over normal HDD virtual memory. |
Vista Only im guessing?
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Vista Only? No not at all, its in Control Panel > System > Advanced > Performance
There you can set what drive to put how much virtual memory on, aka page file.
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| 07/08/08 14:53 |
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| QUOTE | Vista Only? No not at all, its in Control Panel > System > Advanced > Performance
There you can set what drive to put how much virtual memory on, aka page file. |
Vista actually has this software called ReadyBoost.
It basically uses a flash drive as RAM. The reason they do this is because of the seek times. On a typical (mechanical) HD, seek times are at best around 4ms. This seems fast, yes, but RAM and flash drives have almost no seek time because there are no moving parts. This means when the computer tells the device to find info, it is found much faster than a typical HD can find it, which leads to better performance in a sense.
The only drawback is it has a slower transfer time, so even though it finds the data faster, it takes longer to go to and from the flash drive than it does a standard hard drive. But most of the time the data store on the HD and flash drives is not in use, so its transfer time (going from HD/flash drive to memory) doesnt really make that much of a difference.
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| 07/08/08 15:04 |
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As for reasons to use vista over XP;
1. Vista loads and runs applications faster than XP
2. For gaming there is only a 3-5 FPS loss between the platforms which isnt incredibly noticable.
3. The fast drive indexing of vista allows you to run any application on your system just by knowing its name, regardless of knowing where it was installed.
4. Vista will actually show you where your current running programs are running from, opposed to just the name of what is running.
5. Vista is far more stable than XP.
6. It doesnt require 4gig of addons to make it look nice, its already very pretty.
7. The enhanced networking features make it easier to create, join, and manage personal networks.
8. DX 10
9. Vista Utilizes your RAM far better than XP does, and if you run a 64bit copy, you will actually notice a major performance upgrade between 4, 6, and 8 gig of RAM.
10. Vista has Boosting capability for those who have limited RAM slots, where you can use a 1,2,3,4,ect... GB flash drive to generate VRAM, and increase performance.
For those who do not want to wait on shipping, and have a reasonably fast connection, here is the direct download link to obtain Vista SP1 from Microsoft, this release covers, Home(Basic/Premium/Ultimate/Business/Business Ultimate) essentially all versions of Vista to date.
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| 07/08/08 15:26 |
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| QUOTE | As for reasons to use vista over XP;
1. Vista loads and runs applications faster than XP
2. For gaming there is only a 3-5 FPS loss between the platforms which isnt incredibly noticable.
3. The fast drive indexing of vista allows you to run any application on your system just by knowing its name, regardless of knowing where it was installed.
4. Vista will actually show you where your current running programs are running from, opposed to just the name of what is running.
5. Vista is far more stable than XP.
6. It doesnt require 4gig of addons to make it look nice, its already very pretty.
7. The enhanced networking features make it easier to create, join, and manage personal networks.
8. DX 10
9. Vista Utilizes your RAM far better than XP does, and if you run a 64bit copy, you will actually notice a major performance upgrade between 4, 6, and 8 gig of RAM.
10. Vista has Boosting capability for those who have limited RAM slots, where you can use a 1,2,3,4,ect... GB flash drive to generate VRAM, and increase performance.
For those who do not want to wait on shipping, and have a reasonably fast connection, here is the direct download link to obtain Vista SP1 from Microsoft, this release covers, Home(Basic/Premium/Ultimate/Business/Business Ultimate) essentially all versions of Vista to date. |
Imma put it in Virtual PC 2007
>.> NVM i thought it was some sort of dl of the free trial of vista as the OP posted without shipping blah
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| QUOTE | As for reasons to use vista over XP;
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2. Agreed, I have a somewhat older computer (one of AMD's first dual cores) and I barely noticed any difference at all in terms of game performance when I went from XP to Vista.
3. Best feature ever.
5. Havent had a single crash as of yet, running Vista on 2 seperate computers for over a month.
8. Thats a double edged sword....first you need a newer graphics card, then you need to be ok with getting lower framerates for better looks. I personally dont care for DX10....take crysis for example. Runs find on my system and looks great, yet I am running it in DX9.....DX10 only looks a little better and isnt worth it compared to the fps drop that follows it. Graphics arent everything, gameplay is, and DX10 doesnt change gameplay.
10. Fully agree....I only have 2gigs and with my standard startup apps running I have around 1 gig free. I have played Crysis and Mass Effect and never seen it fall below ~400MB free.
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For those who do not want to wait on shipping, and have a reasonably fast connection, here is the direct download link to obtain Vista SP1 from Microsoft, this release covers, Home(Basic/Premium/Ultimate/Business/Business Ultimate) essentially all versions of Vista to date. |
That is only SP1 for Vista itself, not Vista, someone would still need Vista to be able to use that download.
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From: WINVSP1ddek@microsoft.catalysis.com
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Shuuga Da Bleeah,
Thank you for your interest in Windows Vista®. Due to the high demand from our business customers wanting to evaluate Windows Vista we have run out of inventory for the Windows Vista Desktop Deployment & Evaluation Kit and are unable to ship you a kit. For more information, tools, and resources to help you evaluate Windows Vista, visit Microsoft's Springboard Series site or contact your Microsoft account representative directly.
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so does readyboost really makes the comp/laptop faster a bit. I have a shared graphic card, so i could use some more RAM =]
i want to try readyboost, not sure if it works good enough.
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| QUOTE | so does readyboost really makes the comp/laptop faster a bit. I have a shared graphic card, so i could use some more RAM =]
i want to try readyboost, not sure if it works good enough. |
From what I hear it works pretty decent. Basically as it says, it uses thumb drives as ram, thumb drivers are solid-state (no moving parts) therefore there access times are much faster than your HDD. They have a lower read/write speed, but cached memory on HDD doesnt need to read or write as quickly as active memory. The faster access times allow it to find what it needs (therefore access what it needs) much quicker than your HDD, so it in turn is better than using your HDD for your cached memory.
The only problem is thumb drives have a limited read/write cycles, but its such a high number it would take a few years to wear out from using readyboost.
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | so does readyboost really makes the comp/laptop faster a bit. I have a shared graphic card, so i could use some more RAM =]
i want to try readyboost, not sure if it works good enough. |
From what I hear it works pretty decent. Basically as it says, it uses thumb drives as ram, thumb drivers are solid-state (no moving parts) therefore there access times are much faster than your HDD. They have a lower read/write speed, but cached memory on HDD doesnt need to read or write as quickly as active memory. The faster access times allow it to find what it needs (therefore access what it needs) much quicker than your HDD, so it in turn is better than using your HDD for your cached memory.
The only problem is thumb drives have a limited read/write cycles, but its such a high number it would take a few years to wear out from using readyboost. |
What exactly is a shared graphics card? I've come across 1 in my entire life, it was 128MB/64MBx2 shared or something i never understood it..
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it means its on your motherboard. So it uses the work memory. I only have 1 GB, the graphic card uses 187 MB. Its recommend to have 2 GB for vista.
So its pretty bad for this laptop :P
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| QUOTE | | What exactly is a shared graphics card? I've come across 1 in my entire life, it was 128MB/64MBx2 shared or something i never understood it.. |
It's a Graphics Chip imbedded on the Motherboard, it gets its ''shared'' name mostly that it does not have its own Memory, but rather uses the memory of your RAM.
These chips are never truly powerful enough to run games on good resolutions, unless they're very old ofcourse, but for an everyday office PC they do their job perfectly.
That's really what it is and what it means, any gamer with some knowledge is spooked by the word ''Integrated'' or ''shared'' graphics card, simply because it can't compete with top games.
YES, you can run Guild Wars on an integrated Graphics card, NO you can't play it, atleast unless you find 1-3FPS playable that is ;D
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YES, you can run Guild Wars on an integrated Graphics card, NO you can't play it, atleast unless you find 1-3FPS playable that is ;D |
You're talking about something you don't know anything about.
You Can very much indeed run games on integrated graphic chip sets..
(Motherboards are different, some have useless chip sets and some have more powerful then some graphic cards.)
I run Vista Basic 32b without a video card on one of my computers. And run gws at 10-20fps on max, upwards of 40 on low settings.
Chip sets are becoming more and more important, popular and useful when finding a motherboard.
As much as I've read while building custom computers. Vista, does suck, and it is good... Everything goes both ways, good & Evil, you know?
Windows Vista 64bits have issues with computer parts, video cards, sound, graphics, motherboard and then some with drivers and compatibility AND video games.
And Dx10 isn't even useful, very few games utilize Dx10 feature, Dx10 is said to be way before it's time. It'll be a long time before it has a real use.
Now before you finish reading with your fanboy panties in a bunch, I do not hate vista, I never stated that. Also this is information been proven. NOW, how much if this is still an issue is beyond me, I have better things to do then watch Microsoft for news updates. Guess I SHOULD if I want to argue facts now huh?
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| QUOTE | | You're talking about something you don't know anything about. |
Fine then i don't, i did play it once on an Intel Extreme Graphics 2 Integrated Chip and all i got was a lousy 5FPS on 800x600, ha.
And that's still one of the more common onboard chips you find in office PC's today, and too on household ones for general browsing and MSN/Yahoo needs.
| QUOTE | | Motherboards are different, some have useless chip sets and some have more powerful then some graphic cards. |
This is a flexible statement, some motherboards also have better audio chips then dedicated soundcards, if you compare cheap dedicated cards with the most expensive of onboard chips you can win any argument, save this for the marketing and advertising department.
| QUOTE | | Windows Vista 64bits have issues with computer parts, video cards, sound, graphics, motherboard and then some with drivers and compatibility AND video games. |
When Vista came out this statement was very much true, incase you missed the Service Pack 1, most of this has been completely removed and Vista runs remarkably stable, the main issues people get is because they are just completely oblivious of computers, it goes like this:
Push buttan, boot, double-click & go
When anything disturbs this harmonious ritual things will go terribly, terribly wrong, i've heard the same crap talk when XP came out, and its predecessor before that, people like that keep our glorious economy running, so i don't hate them, but i do have a right as Citizen to point and laugh.
| QUOTE | | And Dx10 isn't even useful, very few games utilize Dx10 feature, Dx10 is said to be way before it's time. It'll be a long time before it has a real use. |
Only statement i can actually agree with reading all the utter non-thought through statements, DX10 doesn't add much, and DX 10.1 is already its ''followup'', it'll take quite a few more years, it will probably be in use by the time Duke Nukem Forever goes Gold and is released.
I did too, its the only way you can approach things like this on the Internet, if you do it any different your doing it wrong.
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| QUOTE | You're talking about something you don't know anything about.
You Can very much indeed run games on integrated graphic chip sets..
(Motherboards are different, some have useless chip sets and some have more powerful then some graphic cards.)
I run Vista Basic 32b without a video card on one of my computers. And run gws at 10-20fps on max, upwards of 40 on low settings.
Chip sets are becoming more and more important, popular and useful when finding a motherboard.
As much as I've read while building custom computers. Vista, does suck, and it is good... Everything goes both ways, good & Evil, you know?
Windows Vista 64bits have issues with computer parts, video cards, sound, graphics, motherboard and then some with drivers and compatibility AND video games.
And Dx10 isn't even useful, very few games utilize Dx10 feature, Dx10 is said to be way before it's time. It'll be a long time before it has a real use.
Now before you finish reading with your fanboy panties in a bunch, I do not hate vista, I never stated that. Also this is information been proven. NOW, how much if this is still an issue is beyond me, I have better things to do then watch Microsoft for news updates. Guess I SHOULD if I want to argue facts now huh?
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I lol'ed.
There is no integrated graphics even close to modern graphics boards. Unless you have a really old graphics board, a graphics board will always be better than integrated graphics.
I run Vista 64-bit as my only OS, and I have not had any problems, hardware or software wise. I guess it all boils down to knowing how to use a computer.
As for vista "sucking" why? Dont just state your opinion and claim its fact without proof. Microsoft somewhat recently did a placebo experiement with Vista, they took a group of people who would rate vista a 4.4 (on a 1-10 scale) average, and told them to try out Windows "Mohave", those same people rated Mohave an average of 8.5. After that, they were told that Mohave was actually Vista.
It seems most of the bad remarks people give Vista, is because they havnt used it or dont know shit about computers.
As for DX10, you may be right in saying not many games use it, but as with any new technology its going to take awhile for the game industry to fully adopt the new tech. DX 9 "wasnt useful" and had "almost no games that used its new features" when it first came out, but look at it now. Give DX10 the same amount of time it took DX9 to become mainstream, and your points will be invalid.
And your right, you probably should know the facts before you try to argue something with your own opinion, to pass off as fact.
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