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I am trying to decide which I will choose at lvl 50.
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| 05/22/05 09:43 |
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well I'll tell you this is a tough choice... I was convinced that I'd get a Peacebringer... and I actually have a warsahde. The beauty of it is that you can have both but sometimes knowing what your 50 is helps.
My 50 was a Controller... and a Warshade is a bit more like a controller, she has holds, and get's pets.... where as a PB doesn't.
I've finally gotten all the powers written up and I'm sending that info to grifter... so it'll be posted soon. :)
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| 05/22/05 10:16 |
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| QUOTE | well I'll tell you this is a tough choice... I was convinced that I'd get a Peacebringer... and I actually have a warsahde. The beauty of it is that you can have both but sometimes knowing what your 50 is helps.
My 50 was a Controller... and a Warshade is a bit more like a controller, she has holds, and get's pets.... where as a PB doesn't.
I've finally gotten all the powers written up and I'm sending that info to grifter... so it'll be posted soon. :) |
I have a level 20 Peacebringer and I love it. Most of the powers cause defense debuffs on targets and the powerset has heals, pet-like powers, group flight, quantum flights (phase shift and flight), and great AoE (like warshade). I do agree w/ saph, warshades are more a controller like hero with a lot of hold like attacks.
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| 05/22/05 10:45 |
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I've decided that PB's are a little easier to play as well... everyone I know that has both thinks the WS is harder to handle. Grif seemed to fly through 1-29... I just got my WS to 21... and it's been uphill all the way. I got a blaster to lvl 20 faster than my WS.
I've been calling PB's blaster/defenders and WS blaster/controllers... cause it's kinda the mix in the human pools.... but then I've never played a PB so.
I hardly ever spend any time in human form with my WS either... I love my Forms... if it weren't for them, I'd never get any lvls :)
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| 05/22/05 13:07 |
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| QUOTE | well I'll tell you this is a tough choice... I was convinced that I'd get a Peacebringer... and I actually have a warsahde. The beauty of it is that you can have both but sometimes knowing what your 50 is helps.
My 50 was a Controller... and a Warshade is a bit more like a controller, she has holds, and get's pets.... where as a PB doesn't.
I've finally gotten all the powers written up and I'm sending that info to grifter... so it'll be posted soon. :) |
I have a tank and since i play like i am invincable a tank is a good thing for me. Lots of defence so not a lot of debt. I also have a defender so im thinkin' PB would be better. I tried a controller but i cant stay out of the frey. I just cant resist a good fight.
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| 05/22/05 13:53 |
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AH you can play a troller and get in the fight, just has to be the right troller ;)
Like I said I've heard that PB's are easier to play... but I've never played one... someday I'll have to :)
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lol, all this talk of which you will be choosing, WS or PB? as far as I'm concerned, I've still got another 30 levels to go with my blaster, wish I hadn't wiped my databases before Kheldians were implemented. =(. ah well, I'll probably go with a WS because I'm a big fan of the holds and of course, the pets.
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Ok, here's a question that has been on my mind...can you only have one per level 50 or since you have a level 50, the option is open from now on? I intend to use the test server to try them both, but, with me, I will probably like them both to the point of insanity on making a choice on one over the other. If we can make both then I will do that and split my time between them.
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| 05/22/05 18:03 |
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| QUOTE | Ok, here's a question that has been on my mind...can you only have one per level 50 or since you have a level 50, the option is open from now on? I intend to use the test server to try them both, but, with me, I will probably like them both to the point of insanity on making a choice on one over the other. If we can make both then I will do that and split my time between them.
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| 05/22/05 18:20 |
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My friend has a lvl 50 WS and a lvl 39 PB. Forgot what the PB's name was, but the WS was BlackStarrunner, or something like that. The point is, each of them have an equal amount of strengths and weaknesses. If I had the option of using them, I would make one of eachAnd use them evenly.
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| QUOTE | | My friend has a lvl 50 WS and a lvl 39 PB. Forgot what the PB's name was, but the WS was BlackStarrunner, or something like that. The point is, each of them have an equal amount of strengths and weaknesses. If I had the option of using them, I would make one of eachAnd use them evenly. |
Yeah they have a weakness, damn Quantum guns. They hurt, then you have to worry about the Nictus mixed in, they are worse than the guns. But I must admit I like playing my Khelds, I have Saturn Zero (PB) to 20 and just started Freakin Lizard (WS) and he is 6. They level fast, travel powers from the start and good attacks. FUN FUN!
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| 05/24/05 23:27 |
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I just started by PB and soon I will make a WS. Only like L5 since Doc V has been working on finishing up Accolades, but so far it's cool. I imagine I wont mind the Hollows so much this time :-)
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So far I really only have experiece with my PB who is almost 35 my WS is only lvl 8. I play my PB like a scrapper with a blaster state of mind. I have taken mostly all offense and just said that I will arrest you before you can defeat me. It works pretty well uslaly I only get taken down by quantums or the occasional mob when I begin to think to highly of my powers. Alot of the high lvl PBs I have seen stay with all human powers and are pretty powerful, but most of the WSs I have seen are jacks of all trades and shape shift. Once my PB gets to 50 I will probably start workin on my WS more.
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Now mind you, I have 0 experience with the Kheld's at all. However looking at the power sets and the like, I think the key to them is...Focus. Focus on what you want the character to play like and go with it. Don't deviate much from it.
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| QUOTE | | I am trying to decide which I will choose at lvl 50. |
Umm, as far as I see, Warshades have TP and Fly in nova form, Peacebringers have Fly and Fly in nova form, so I think that I will get a warshade when I hit 50 with S1ngularity. Please talk more about this. I have only been playing for 3 months.
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i took my grav/empath controller to lvl 50 thinking that i would go for a WS, since they are more controller oriantated. but i went for a PB instead which i found far easier to play from the get go (my PB is lvl 33 my WS is lvl 10). i think i was fed up with the general lack of damage of being a controller and wanted something that could lay down some big hits (the AoEs in Nova form are awesome with a few slots on em).
i went for a Nova/Human PB with Dwarf form for emergencies only as the self heal comes in handy (and also for scaring the noobs in Atlas park hehe)
anyway, i'm gonna be quiet now
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| 10/19/05 10:26 |
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Hi Darkside,
I still haven't reached 50 yet, so no comments on PB vs WS.
I just wanted to welcome you to GameAmp. And please talk as much as you want. That's what this place is for.
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| 10/19/05 10:39 |
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My question is this... is it even possible to solo these guys in door missions due to the quantums and nictus?
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| 10/19/05 10:50 |
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I solo both my Warshade and my Peacebringer most of the time. The big thing you need to do is pay attention to your surroundings and you can drop almost any nictus that you find. For how they behave I would say a PB is more of a Blapper with a little defender thrown in for good measure.
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| QUOTE | | My question is this... is it even possible to solo these guys in door missions due to the quantums and nictus? |
Yes, they are solo-able. I have soloed my WS up to level 26 so far. You can solo a PB in human form because the attacks are more damaging and you have access to a build-up power. I found I needed the Nova form to solo my WS.
While they are solo-able, I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the significant buffs your human form gets while teaming. I have a PB and WS that are both built all-human, and they team very nicely.
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| 10/19/05 11:36 |
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PB's OWN ALL!!!!! my lvl 34 is a death machine!! im not sure if ive ever had a toon that could solo indoors faster than my pb, not even my old troller with multiple pets. PBs simply put, are the most uber toon in the game. their shields are ridiculously high!! much more so than WS, bout 30% more dmg res if i remember right. let me just recall my last mish that i did. went in, hit shining shield and quantum shield. hit photon seekers and ran into the mob of 6 freaks including a minion quant. the photon seekers killed 4 of the minions in one shot. i hit incadescent strike on the quant and one shot kill him. i click the last target and hit radiant strike followed by glinting eye...dropped em! so 6 even lvl minions dead in about 9 seconds or so. the PB also has an aoe disorient/hold and an ally heal. with the dwarf form...theres nothing, NOTHING, a PB cant do. the only downside is soon i will be losing perma hasten and 6-slot stamina which helps significantly with the recharge time and end cost of incandescent strike and photon seekers. but im only 1.8 bubs away from lvl 35 and my nova power dawnstirke :D
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| 10/19/05 12:27 |
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thanks for the welcome.
PBs are very Soloable. my PB can take one most things and come out on top. although i do prefer teams cause talking to ureself gets a bit boring and kinda wierd lol.
personally i'd go for a PB when hitting lvl 50 but i havent given my WS all that much of a chance so i'm speaking biastly.
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| 10/20/05 12:36 |
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After getting a PB to level 22 and a WS to level 20. I still really can't decide which I like better. I guess it depends on the mood I am in at the time. I do lean more towards a PB though. You get a little more variety in your attacks. But a WS can also be fun. I leveled a controller to 50, so I was ready to start doing some damage. So, I made both. Nova form is the same for both attack wise. PB adds defense de-buffs a WS adds a slow de-buff. But the human form attacks are really different. The dwarfs are also very different. Your PB is going to be more a blaster, healer, controller mix and the warshade is more of a controller - blaster mix. I do like the WS dwarf form's heal. It is drains the villain's health to add to yours. So you get to do damage while you heal yourself. A PB dwarf has a heal also, but is is just a heal. No damage done to the villain.
One thing I have always told my friends who asked which they should try. I always say, "both". They are both a blast to play. But really, no one can tell you which is better. The both have their + and -'s. The best thing to do is make one of each, keep and play them both. Don't give up on them. Sometimes it can be pretty discouraging. Then you can decide for yourself which you feel is best for you and your play style. There are some days I feel my PB is better than my WS and vice-versa.
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| 10/20/05 14:25 |
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Since I have been playing my kheldians, I have noticed that no one has put a kheldian transformation bind here, I allways think it's a pain switching trays or having unusable powers on a tray with useable ones, so I did the following...
I placed all the powers for the Nova form into tray 9 and all the powers for Dwarf form into tray 2 (get where I'm going with this? if not, keep reading)
after I made those trays for the seperate forms, I made the following binds for my WS as the template, replace the dark with light if you are a PB
/bind (key you are using) "powexec_name dark nova$$ prev_tray$$ l (make your message however you want)"
that makes you transform, switch your 1st tray to tray 9 and say a nifty catch phrase... I know what you're thinking, "Now how do I become my human for again?". use the next one
/bind (shift+key from nova bind) "powexec_name dark nova$$ next_tray$$ l (message you want to say when turning back)"
now for the dwarf form... all you have to really do is have next_tray in the transform into bind and prev_tray for the revert one, it's really simple if you practice making binds...
Ok, people, if anyone would like, I could make a whole kheldian bind file for you to use that will have the binds mentioned above already made and ready for you to use... all you have to do is request it in this post, I'll be checking it everyday
till then, happy heroing!
i pulled this off the official forums. i use these binds and i think you'll find them very usefull no matter which AT you go for.
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| 10/21/05 07:06 |
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I have another question. If you have a 50 does it open up the PB/WS option on every server? I ask because I'm full up on Infinty due to my chronic alt disorder.
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Once you get a 50 you can make a PB\WS on any server.
As for binds mine are as follows:
\bind NUMPAD1 "powexec_toggle_off White Dwarf$$powexec_toggle_on Bright Nova$$goto_tray 4" transforms me into my nova form
\bind NUMPAD3 "powexec_toggle_off Bright Nova$$powexec_toggle_on White Dwarf$$goto_tray 5" transforms me into my dwarf form.
For the WS equivelent change Bright Nova to Dark Nova and change White Dwarf to Dark Dwarf.
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woah you guys all know so much about PBs and WSs
i think i am gona get a WS now that i have heerd what you guys say, my main is a lvl 28 troller, and i love the fact that i can control and deal lots of damage with a WS
i think WSs are better cause they can be a controller, blaster and tanker all at once
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| 01/02/06 08:28 |
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DarkSide_UK
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Joined: 10/19/2005
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| RE: Warshade vrs. Peacebringer |
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PB's do get a couple of holds within thier builds but i didnt find them all that usefull so i dropped them so i could add in some more PvP type powers.
i would recomend the healing powers as these the self heals come in handy in PvP and Glowing Touch is useful in PvE if your healer gets a little bogged down.
i only use my PB these days for trips to Siren's when there are more Villains than Heroes just to balance the numbers.
Just a wee note to say that i am 1-0 up on Firespray as i slapped his Brute (Thuggernaut) about in Siren's a few weeks ago, to witch a few days after he PMd me saying 'Right B****, i owe you a slap' :)
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Dark Side
Lvl 50 Grav/Empath Controller, The Greatest Controller of all time!!! ***
Still a member of the late, great Usual Suspects
Gabriel Osiris
Lvl 42 Peacebringer
Shades Of Vengance SG
***Disclaimer, more than likely not true :)
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Lvl 41 Necromancy/Dark Mastermind
Smyte
Lvl 50 Claws/Super Reflexes Stalker
Member of The House of Counted Shadows VG
Proud member of 'The Echelon' and the 'Forum Cartel... For Smurfs'
Global: @Smyte
Defiant Server, Europe
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| 01/03/06 15:57 |
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Hobsnob
Posts: 3
Joined: 08/07/2005
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| RE: Warshade vrs. Peacebringer |
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Once I have got to 50 I will have completed the main thrust of the game. I've done the hard slog, done the leveling. Therefore, when I get a a kheldian, I will choose powers and AT according to what looks cool. I don't mind the powers suck, I just want to show off. At the moment I am leaning toward WS, becuase dark things always are cool (Its like Batman and The Flash, Batman is always cooler) and 'Orbiting death looks awesome.
Hobsnob
Thanks to Invasion Designs
City of Heroes/Villains
Brigadier - lvl 50 INV/SS/Pyre Tanker
Keishi - lvl 31 Kat/Dark Scrapper
Project IcyFreeze - lvl 27 Ice/Storm Controller
Twilight Blade - lvl 36 Claw/Nin Stalker
Keishi Kurai- lvl 32 Nin/DM Mastermind
Galvanic - lvl 30 Elec/Elec Brute
Astral Twilight - lvl 36 Warshade
All on defiant
Global - @Brigadier
World of Warcraft - Vashj
Eidelar - lvl 40 Night Elf Rogue
Doralia - lvl 30 Human Priest
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| 01/07/06 10:53 |
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pinkglide
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Joined: 09/01/2005
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| RE: Warshade vrs. Peacebringer |
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hmm, if ask me, i say that a peacebringer looks more hero orientated. A warshade looks cool with it's evil purple blasts, but a peacbringer has fly, which is typical super hero, they are they nice verisions of Kehldians, and heros are nice, and they heal! Wehey. I'd agree with most of the other's sayings, it depends on ure type of play. If ure a Defender lvl 50, then get a PB coz they can heal, but if ure a troller, get a warshade. and if ure a blaster, then wehey, you get experience with both of them. And it doesn't even matter that much. you got a char up to lvl 50 and Khelidians are a prize. The main reason for PB or WS is to show offure kheldian powers, or the fact tht you have a lvl 50.YAY!!
/Mike
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| 03/23/06 08:28 |
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