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DocVengeance

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not getting hurt is nice

Due to some recent occurances I felt the need for a little constructive venting.

Often when a defender gets a tell it's something like "Do you heal?" and with my dark it's yes, but are they asking the right question. As a dark defender I generally do pretty well on invites, but there are still many people out there that are only looking for an empath. Why? could be healing, or RA or CM. I had a complaint from a bubbler that he had problems getting invites (and I teamed with him, it's not his playing style or personality causing the problem). Are some of these people cheating themselves? sure they are.

Empaths are great, I have one. But what about a bubbler, hmm not getting hurt or getting hurt less, sounds like a good deal to me. Bubblers can greatly extend the life of a team and reduce the need for healing. Also a bubble can help "stop" a "one shot" where you can only rez fro a 1 shot with empathy. Then there are dark defenders, what high level tank would not want a defender with healing, holds AND an AOE Psi defense? and a debuff on enemy attacks. On a psi AV this could literally save a tanker's life. But no, "I need an empath". As far as rad defenders my experience is limited (I have a L18 conntroller with rad) but from teaming with them I know they can seriously debuff an AV (or anyone for that matter). I'll admit I dont know a lot about kinetics but again from teaming my understanding is they debuff the baddies and give the buffs to their teammates (i know very simplified but you get the idea) and they can do things like transfer end form enemies, very handy.

Anyway I guess my point is team with different defenders and learn what each has to offer. okay hope that was constructive for a rant.

Doc

BTW this is an admited rant though i tried to be constructive, so keep this in mind when replying/rating

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06/07/05 13:34

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Re: not getting hurt is nice

Let me add some ranting to it. The reason why City of Heroes is such a great game is because there is such a variety. Everybody knows that playing a tanker is serious different from playing a controller. But I think it goes further than that. Each of the arch types probably have a best build. That is to say, the best build if you need to kill +4 mobs all the time. But all the different sub-builds are designed with great care. I love it when I join a team with a unregular build. Team dynamics change, and it is just fun to see the mobs get arrested differently. I think the difference between the ultimate xp build and a nicely crafted rare build is less 10% xp. Whatever your type, you are always welcome in my team!

06/07/05 16:01

Oni_no_Akura

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Re: not getting hurt is nice

QUOTE

Due to some recent occurances I felt the need for a little constructive venting.

Often when a defender gets a tell it's something like \"Do you heal?\" and with my dark it's yes, but are they asking the right question. As a dark defender I generally do pretty well on invites, but there are still many people out there that are only looking for an empath. Why? could be healing, or RA or CM. I had a complaint from a bubbler that he had problems getting invites (and I teamed with him, it's not his playing style or personality causing the problem). Are some of these people cheating themselves? sure they are.

Empaths are great, I have one. But what about a bubbler, hmm not getting hurt or getting hurt less, sounds like a good deal to me. Bubblers can greatly extend the life of a team and reduce the need for healing. Also a bubble can help \"stop\" a \"one shot\" where you can only rez fro a 1 shot with empathy. Then there are dark defenders, what high level tank would not want a defender with healing, holds AND an AOE Psi defense? and a debuff on enemy attacks. On a psi AV this could literally save a tanker's life. But no, \"I need an empath\". As far as rad defenders my experience is limited (I have a L18 conntroller with rad) but from teaming with them I know they can seriously debuff an AV (or anyone for that matter). I'll admit I dont know a lot about kinetics but again from teaming my understanding is they debuff the baddies and give the buffs to their teammates (i know very simplified but you get the idea) and they can do things like transfer end form enemies, very handy.

Anyway I guess my point is team with different defenders and learn what each has to offer. okay hope that was constructive for a rant.

Doc

BTW this is an admited rant though i tried to be constructive, so keep this in mind when replying/rating

Hmmm, as a Bubbling defender I've not really noticed a lack of invitations because of my lack of healing ability. Matter of fact we force field monkeys seem to be in high demand on Freedom server ( not alot of us it seems), in fact it's usually me who's asking the team leader to plz grab an empath or other healer as I'm the LEAST defended member of any group I'm in. In fact most group invites I get are for mishes with +3-4 lvl enemies, as you pointed out some people prefer to not getting hit/damaged to being healed after a whallop. LOL.

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06/07/05 16:52

DocVengeance

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Re: not getting hurt is nice

Glad to heal it's not universal. Could be another one of those server "personalities" or even server at my level range things.

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06/07/05 17:08

govtmorgue

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Re: not getting hurt is nice

Well as a level 25 all heal empathy defender I am goinf to give my 2 cents worth (and yep that about all I got in the bank...if that) I think bubbler's are awesome. Without a bubbler on a team that I am playing with, I tend to get scatter brained due to all the constant running back and forth between team members. It seems whenever a bubbler is on the team people see the "end zone" effect of the bubble and tend to stay in it. This makes it a whole lot easier on me due to the fact that then I just have to stay near the main group in the bubble and heal the stragglers/tanks outside the bubble. Another plus of having the bubbler is...I DONT GET HURT EITHER. Sometimes its impossible not to draw aggro (especially when using absorb pain for an emergency) and with a faithful and trusty bubbler...I stay alive during the no self healing phase. Whenever I team I tend to hope that they already have a bubbler...unless its a team I trust is knowledgable in the art of war. K I'm done lol

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06/08/05 22:23

Icetastic

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Re: not getting hurt is nice

honestly....i like bubblers more than emps....and the darks i have played with are fantastic as well....radiation defs r great for debuffs...i used to just look for emps but anymore really they r the last type of def i look for.

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06/08/05 23:54

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Re: not getting hurt is nice

radiation defender is as offensive as a blaster if he want, only took more time to apply debuff :).

06/09/05 12:05

LordXenophon

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Re: not getting hurt is nice

ANY kind of defender at all makes the team tougher, each in his own way. You just have to know how to play whichever power sets you choose. It's all in how you play it. Only the narrow minded "5-kinds-of-characters-and-one-way-to-play-each" people think every defender has to be an empath.

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06/09/05 14:10

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Re: not getting hurt is nice

Had to reply to this one, as I'm a long-time player of Defenders myself, especially my main man on Guardian, SgtYork, a Kinetic Defender. His one AoE heal, Transfusion, recharges faster than an Empath Defender's Healing Aura, and when I 3-slotted green SO enhancements, it gives equal/superior healing. And the fact that Transfusion's heal radiates off of the enemy SgtYork targets, rather than from the toon, York is an ideal teammate for Scrappers & Tanks. And since I got Fulcrum Shift a month ago, York has become a buff dynamo! There have been times that with a large & tightly packed mob, I have filled up the buff area of the screen completely with buffs from Fulcrum Shift.

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