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dunnman19
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I was wondering I am about to buy a new video card to run BF2 and was wondering which is the best to run BF2, yet reasonably priced?? Also is there any working no cd crack's yet? I hate disks.
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| 07/11/05 01:10 |
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popenator
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Well, NVIDIA cards probs, but it depends on how good the card is, and with uncountable amounts of cards most will work well.
But of course a top of the range card will work better than a mid range one. But my NVIDIA 6600 works fine.
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| 07/11/05 11:06 |
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GeneralHoeBag
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Yeah i had to buy a Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT with 128 MB and it runs like a charm
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| 07/11/05 12:51 |
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Dunnman19 here are a few questions you will want to answer for yourself:
How much are you willing to spend? What is the cap that you know you cannot spend over?
What graphics settings do you comfortably want to play the game on?
Medium
Medium to high
Mostly high
Everything maxed out
And what are your current system specs? What is the current system that you have to work with? Is it even worth it to add a video card to it? How much ram do you have? What are the detailed specifications of your system? Is it AGP or PCIE supportable?
My initial advice to anyone is this. If you are considering purchasing a new video card try to rule out pre-x800/geforce 6 series cards. There are now a number of economically viable solutions within the x800/geforce 6 series. The high end FX5900's and ati9800's run the game decently if you already have one, but if you are thinking of a new card try to shop in more recent generation of cards.
So anyway answer te above questions for me.
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| 07/11/05 12:52 |
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Ah the woes of video cards…
Any game you can break up into 3 ends of cards that will give you respectable performance, here is what I have found for this game.
LOW- These are cards that will generate decent FPS and can be found rather cheap on todays market: 9700pro, 9800pro, 6600gt, 6800nu, 5900ultra, 5900xt. This is a mix of the top end of last generation and the middle end of this generation. You should be able to find all of those in the 100-150 buck range.
Middle- These will get high FPS at mid detail, or decent FPS at high detail. X800pro, x800xl, 6800gt. This is the current start of the high end, and can be found in the 300-350 price range.
High- Great FPS at any detail setting, x800xt, x850xt, 6800ultra, 7800gtx. Of course you are going to break the bank here.
Side notes-
Memory on card: There is a myth that more memory = faster frames. The amount of memory on the card simply determines the level of texture detail you can reach. IE if you have 128mb you can’t really use 256mb textures. Now there is a minimal level of difference in how a 128mb texture looks, and 256mb texture looks. The only part of memory that relates to how fast your FPS will be is the clock rate of the memory. All the cards in the mid/high range come with rather fast gddr3 ram, and a 256 mb helping. However keep in mind that 128mb of faster memory will out run 256 of slower memory.
GPU core and pixel pipes- This is probably the most important part of the problem. The x800 (not the pro) and the 6800 (not the nu) all have 16 pipes and are blazingly fast. The difference is really in the clock speeds.
Nvidia vs Ati- This is always a battle of the fanboys as most people swear by one brand or the other. That’s fine, and at the upper end both products are so fast that it doesn’t really matter in FPS results, however there are some things you should know. Nvidia cards are faster at OGL (only matters for doom3 now), use more power, run hotter, and have some rather large problems with them making their 6800 series a questionable buy. Ati’s cards on the other hand use less power, run cooler, are faster in d3d (which most games including this one are), and don’t have any looming issues of bad technology. However ATI has chosen not to support dx9.0c and their drivers are horrible for linux.
Anyway from looking around on IRC and what results people are getting. The best card for the price is the x800xl by far. However if you have a good 600 bucks to spare the 7800gtx is the fastest card out now.
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CPU P4EE Gallitan core socket 478 @ 4.2ghz, Abit IC7-G Max 3, 2 gb PC4000 corsair xms, PC Power and cooling 510 psu, Albatron 6800gt @ ultra, Creative Audigy 2 ZS, Cooler master wave master case, Switech Liquid Cooling, Dual NEC 22 inch CRT, Klipch Pro Media 5.1, Senn HD280 pro, MS 3.0, Steel S&S, logitech elite.
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| 07/14/05 13:44 |
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i agree on the x800xl. Based on research I bought that card along with msi neo4 platinum, and 939 3000+, and upgraded my system. In fact here are my specs:
athl64 939 3000+
msi neo4 platinum
1.5 gb of RAM, (2x512) + (2x256) in 4 slots, dual channel
80gb seagate SATA NCQ 150/
430watt ANTEC psu, Soho Full Tower
All the RAM's are 2.5 latency, 400mhz.
I originally had a gig only in dual channel and though my fps with graphics settings maxed out showed average 55fps, I was still experiencing lag. Then I read some hardware reviewers saying that that would happen with the x800xl even if fps showed good. They suggested adding more ram, total 2 gigs in dual channel preferably. Well, I alt tabbed to desktop during a 64 player server game and sure enough my mem use (find it in windows task manager/processes/mem use) was 900 megabyte that the game it self was using with everything on high graphics. That actually pushes it just over the 1 gig capacity and that is why i was getting lag. So I took two 256's from another system and added them (in dual channel) to my 1 gig for 1.5 total and *voila*, no lag at all. So, I've said over and over, you people who keep saying 1 gig is plenty on high graphics. YOU ARE JUST WRONG. I mean it totally cleared up my lag. I run the game now on 1152x864 @ 90hz refresh rate, with everything maxed out except AA (i have that on 4x). 40 to 70 fps in the hairiest of situations.
Also do not use omega drivers. You will get black squarey artifacts. And your will may even blue screen you. This has been well attested to by many. Just do searches. You will see. I experienced scary artifacts from the moment i installed omega driver. So i uninstalled and went back to catalyst 5.6 and everyting is fine now.
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| 07/14/05 16:48 |
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raddish2004
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My system spec now:
P4 2.7Ghz
1536Mb DDR RAM
80Gb WD 8mb cache HDD
MSI NX6600GT VTD-128 (500Mhz/900Mhz - core/mem)
WinXP
512k/128k ADSL (Australia)
What BF2 settings can this system handle with players 16/32/64 players?
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| 07/15/05 21:28 |
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I'd go for mid details at a decent resolution (nothing to extreme) and you should get a solid fps, really your CPU and vid card are what's going to hold you back in some aspects. The 6600gt is a very good mid range card and rather fast for what it does. Without getting to tecnical let me explain WHY you will run into problems at high end settings.
1. CPU- your CPU really defines how much AI crap can go on, physics, and the amount of players. Granted a 2.7 p4 isn't exactly a week CPU, but it's not robust enough to handle large amounts of players with tons of physics details. You should be fine at normal player levels (16-24 ie competitive settings) but you will get some problems at high player levels.
2. GPU- the 6600gt is the BEST mid level GPU out now, however it does have some limitations that will hurt you in this game. First off the 6600gt only has 8 pipes, which is the same level as the last generation of cards (9800pro) so you can't push snazy explosions and lighting effects at high frames the way the current top cards can. Second is the 6600gt has a rather odd memory configuration. They use gddr3 which is very fast, but only has a 128 bit helping of it over a 128bit intereface, so once again ultra high end textures are going to thrash the card.
You should hit mid no problem at good fps though.
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CPU P4EE Gallitan core socket 478 @ 4.2ghz, Abit IC7-G Max 3, 2 gb PC4000 corsair xms, PC Power and cooling 510 psu, Albatron 6800gt @ ultra, Creative Audigy 2 ZS, Cooler master wave master case, Switech Liquid Cooling, Dual NEC 22 inch CRT, Klipch Pro Media 5.1, Senn HD280 pro, MS 3.0, Steel S&S, logitech elite.
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| 07/17/05 16:50 |
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raddish2004
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Thank you, finally some help.
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| 07/18/05 03:43 |
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all out
ATI RADEON X850XT-PE
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| 09/09/05 23:24 |
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| QUOTE | all out
ATI RADEON X850XT-PE |
He said reasonably priced, no need to toss out high end cards that people can't afford
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CPU P4EE Gallitan core socket 478 @ 4.2ghz, Abit IC7-G Max 3, 2 gb PC4000 corsair xms, PC Power and cooling 510 psu, Albatron 6800gt @ ultra, Creative Audigy 2 ZS, Cooler master wave master case, Switech Liquid Cooling, Dual NEC 22 inch CRT, Klipch Pro Media 5.1, Senn HD280 pro, MS 3.0, Steel S&S, logitech elite.
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| 09/10/05 00:38 |
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Bloodless_End
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true true
well .... i guess that Ati Radeon x800xt is ok
if u like nvidia the 6600series
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| 09/10/05 11:23 |
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